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MSI Outs Bravo-15- Gaming laptop with Ryzen 7 4800H, Radeon RX 5500M and 144 Hz Full HD Srcreen
MSI announced a gaming notebook PC under the label "Bravo-15-A4DDR-056JP" equipped with Ryzen 7 4800H and Radeon RX 5500M.
The Gaming notebook PC has a spicy Ryzen 7 4800H (8 cores/16 threads/rated 2.90GHz/max 4.20GHz/L2 cache 4MB/L3 cache 8MB) fabbed with a 7nm manufacturing process and paired with Radeon RX 5500M. The display panel is tagged AMD FreeSync Premium and a 15.6-inch full HD panel that supports a rapid refresh rate of 144Hz. Also, the powerful cooling system "Cooler Boost 5" that combines two fans and heat pipes can maintain the performance even under a long-time load. The main specifications are DDR4 16GB (8GBx2) for memory, 512GB NVMe M.2 SSD for storage, Gigabit LAN by Realtek "RTL8111HS", and wireless LAN + Bluetooth 5.1 by Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 as standard equipment.
The battery is a 3-cell/4,500mAh lithium-ion battery with a body size of 359mm in width, 254mm in depth, 21.7mm in height, and 1.96kg in weight. OS pre-installs Windows 10 Home 64bit version.
The laptop estimated selling price about 1279 USD/EUR including taxes and will be available coming August 20.
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#5815559 Posted on: 08/06/2020 05:19 PM
This laptop is almost the same as Alpha 15 (expect cpu, it's a ryzen 3000 for alpha) which was a real pain in the a** to stabilize (tons of bsod due to MSI special features incompatible with generic amd driver).
I agree with Imglidinhere, iGpu is really weak and takes way too much ram for nothing (2Gb over the 8 available) and can't be disabled (according to msi tech guys - to be confirmed, i don't dare to do it in bios) to use only the dGPU (4Gb on its own).
Luckily you can reduce the ram allocated to iGPU in bios (this required a keyboard shortcut to display hiddens menus).
Anyhow, those (msi alpha & bravo) are the only "windows" laptop using the 5500m gpu (mac use pro variant, don't know what that change).
This laptop is almost the same as Alpha 15 (expect cpu, it's a ryzen 3000 for alpha) which was a real pain in the a** to stabilize (tons of bsod due to MSI special features incompatible with generic amd driver).
I agree with Imglidinhere, iGpu is really weak and takes way too much ram for nothing (2Gb over the 8 available) and can't be disabled (according to msi tech guys - to be confirmed, i don't dare to do it in bios) to use only the dGPU (4Gb on its own).
Luckily you can reduce the ram allocated to iGPU in bios (this required a keyboard shortcut to display hiddens menus).
Anyhow, those (msi alpha & bravo) are the only "windows" laptop using the 5500m gpu (mac use pro variant, don't know what that change).
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#5815600 Posted on: 08/06/2020 07:28 PM
And upon hearing one bad review from TechTeamGB, MSI tried to extort them and pay them to not publish the review they did not like. The techtubers did not comply and published it anyway. Laptop is *okay* but there are vastly better options at the same price point.
AMD mobile processors ARE faster than Intel's, even with the same core/thread count, but when they're paired with a weaker GPU, it makes for an unfortunate somber pairing. Really wish companies would pair these processors with the faster 5600M instead. It's so much better...
Yeah this turned me off. I doubt it's unique to MSI. The PR response could have been handled better. As well as the handling of the MSI Bravo.
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Thinking this over more when in that position it behooves one to understand you’re in a unique position to represent your company (PR). Decisions made will reflect on your company’s general image. Optics, I feel part of this has to do with optics.
And upon hearing one bad review from TechTeamGB, MSI tried to extort them and pay them to not publish the review they did not like. The techtubers did not comply and published it anyway. Laptop is *okay* but there are vastly better options at the same price point.
AMD mobile processors ARE faster than Intel's, even with the same core/thread count, but when they're paired with a weaker GPU, it makes for an unfortunate somber pairing. Really wish companies would pair these processors with the faster 5600M instead. It's so much better...
Yeah this turned me off. I doubt it's unique to MSI. The PR response could have been handled better. As well as the handling of the MSI Bravo.
EDIT:
Thinking this over more when in that position it behooves one to understand you’re in a unique position to represent your company (PR). Decisions made will reflect on your company’s general image. Optics, I feel part of this has to do with optics.
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#5815618 Posted on: 08/06/2020 08:21 PM
Also I have seen this laptop as well. The cooing system really sucks from what TechTeamGB have said. It looks like they pulled an Apple if you look and see how the cooling setup is. I know that MSI can do better than this because they have other laptops with more adequate cooling solutions than this pile of junk. Even Steven From GN has had trouble with MSI in the past. in like 2017 or so they received a laptop that had a damaged part of the monitor and they said something about it during the review of that laptop and MSI bitched at them for it saying why did you say something about the damage? It seems like it to me that MSI has reached the level of some indie game devs who can't take constructive criticism and they try to extort reviewers in a similar manner the only thing different is that the Indie devs abuse YouTube's DMCA system and do bogus take downs of videos that they do not like. Thank God that MSI hasn't done that yet.
Also I have seen this laptop as well. The cooing system really sucks from what TechTeamGB have said. It looks like they pulled an Apple if you look and see how the cooling setup is. I know that MSI can do better than this because they have other laptops with more adequate cooling solutions than this pile of junk. Even Steven From GN has had trouble with MSI in the past. in like 2017 or so they received a laptop that had a damaged part of the monitor and they said something about it during the review of that laptop and MSI bitched at them for it saying why did you say something about the damage? It seems like it to me that MSI has reached the level of some indie game devs who can't take constructive criticism and they try to extort reviewers in a similar manner the only thing different is that the Indie devs abuse YouTube's DMCA system and do bogus take downs of videos that they do not like. Thank God that MSI hasn't done that yet.
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#5815627 Posted on: 08/06/2020 08:41 PM
Yes good point. I recall incidents such as Stefan Etienne’s PC build while he was a Technology Editor for The Verge & the aftermath that ensued. The “Streisand Effect” Vox’s lawyers mounting an aggressive takedown campaign against YouTubers. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/the-verge-briefly-censored-youtubers-who-mocked-its-bad-pc-building-advice/
Other examples of recent memory, Suzy Lu & boyfriend supposed lawyer Steejo.
YouTube's DMCA system and do bogus take downs of videos that they do not like. Thank God that MSI hasn't done that yet.
Yes good point. I recall incidents such as Stefan Etienne’s PC build while he was a Technology Editor for The Verge & the aftermath that ensued. The “Streisand Effect” Vox’s lawyers mounting an aggressive takedown campaign against YouTubers. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/the-verge-briefly-censored-youtubers-who-mocked-its-bad-pc-building-advice/
Other examples of recent memory, Suzy Lu & boyfriend supposed lawyer Steejo.
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And upon hearing one bad review from TechTeamGB, MSI tried to extort them and pay them to not publish the review they did not like. The techtubers did not comply and published it anyway. Laptop is *okay* but there are vastly better options at the same price point.
AMD mobile processors ARE faster than Intel's, even with the same core/thread count, but when they're paired with a weaker GPU, it makes for an unfortunate somber pairing. Really wish companies would pair these processors with the faster 5600M instead. It's so much better...