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And when Microsoft detects a cheater, the data will be send to the game developper. In the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, Microsoft has actively added an option to detect cheaters called.
The new functionality is called TruePlay, as reported by VG247. With TruePlay, game developers can identify cheaters and can take action.
TruePlay keeps track of game sessions and checks for behavior or manipulations that are common when cheating. The data is then collected and submitted. So again, if somebody is is caught cheating, the data will be shared with the game developer. TruePlay is currently only intended to be implemented with games listed in the Microsoft Store like Forza, Cuphead and multiple games from Microsoft itself.
I don't mind cheaters getting a sanction, but you just need to wonder though, what kind else does Microsoft collect, and for what purposes they could use it. E.g. what else is Microsoft watching and logging?
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#5483655 Posted on: 10/20/2017 09:15 AM
hmmmm, sure hope that it works properly,hopefully it doesn't have problems telling the difference between software like RTSS and / or injectors like sweetfx and genuine modification of the executable / associated memory
hmmmm, sure hope that it works properly,hopefully it doesn't have problems telling the difference between software like RTSS and / or injectors like sweetfx and genuine modification of the executable / associated memory
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#5483656 Posted on: 10/20/2017 09:16 AM
... as well as any other sensitive files that happen to be on your hard drive.
I have very mixed feelings about it, define "game developers".
TruePlay keeps track of game sessions and checks for behavior or manipulations that are common when cheating. The data is then collected and submitted. So again, if somebody is is caught cheating, the data will be shared with the game developer.
... as well as any other sensitive files that happen to be on your hard drive.
I have very mixed feelings about it, define "game developers".
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#5483657 Posted on: 10/20/2017 09:18 AM
the single player game?
Cuphead
the single player game?
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#5483659 Posted on: 10/20/2017 09:31 AM
Interestingly, developers can exclude certain parts of the game from being included, such as the single-player portion. The feature can be toggled on or off by users through Windows Settings, but turning it off won’t prevent them from launching protected games. It will, however, stop them from accessing the parts of the game that requires it, such as multiplayer.
the single player game?
Interestingly, developers can exclude certain parts of the game from being included, such as the single-player portion. The feature can be toggled on or off by users through Windows Settings, but turning it off won’t prevent them from launching protected games. It will, however, stop them from accessing the parts of the game that requires it, such as multiplayer.
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#5483663 Posted on: 10/20/2017 09:48 AM
I don't know about this... I don't really have the feeling that this will help against cheaters, it might bring occasional technical problems to people (bugs), and it scans what your rig is doing without need it in 99% of the time (people not cheating).
Somehow it doesn't feel right to me personally, but that's just my opinion. Oh and yes, obviously you can't turn if off if you have issues with it like locking you out of games even though you're not cheating or if the program itself is simply bugged, so mandatory surveilance once more.
I don't know about this... I don't really have the feeling that this will help against cheaters, it might bring occasional technical problems to people (bugs), and it scans what your rig is doing without need it in 99% of the time (people not cheating).
Somehow it doesn't feel right to me personally, but that's just my opinion. Oh and yes, obviously you can't turn if off if you have issues with it like locking you out of games even though you're not cheating or if the program itself is simply bugged, so mandatory surveilance once more.
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#5483664 Posted on: 10/20/2017 09:57 AM
And after cheaters are found, they block their IP/MAC address, or what ?
How they found which exact person did whatever he did ?
"Catch cheaters", where do they put them ?
Devs cannot delete your paid game from your Steam, Origin, Uplay client etc
And after cheaters are found, they block their IP/MAC address, or what ?
How they found which exact person did whatever he did ?
"Catch cheaters", where do they put them ?
Devs cannot delete your paid game from your Steam, Origin, Uplay client etc
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#5483668 Posted on: 10/20/2017 10:06 AM
And after cheaters are found, they block their IP/MAC address, or what ?
How they found which exact person did whatever he did ?
"Catch cheaters", where do they put them ?
Devs cannot delete your paid game from your Steam, Origin, Uplay client etc
You sound like a cheater.
And after cheaters are found, they block their IP/MAC address, or what ?
How they found which exact person did whatever he did ?
"Catch cheaters", where do they put them ?
Devs cannot delete your paid game from your Steam, Origin, Uplay client etc
You sound like a cheater.
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#5483670 Posted on: 10/20/2017 10:11 AM
And after cheaters are found, they block their IP/MAC address, or what ?
How they found which exact person did whatever he did ?
"Catch cheaters", where do they put them ?
Devs cannot delete your paid game from your Steam, Origin, Uplay client etc
The holder of the IP might get sued. Accounts can be flagged as cheaters easily. Sure it's hard to get a hold of them, and certainly not on top of the game dev's list.
And after cheaters are found, they block their IP/MAC address, or what ?
How they found which exact person did whatever he did ?
"Catch cheaters", where do they put them ?
Devs cannot delete your paid game from your Steam, Origin, Uplay client etc
The holder of the IP might get sued. Accounts can be flagged as cheaters easily. Sure it's hard to get a hold of them, and certainly not on top of the game dev's list.
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#5483676 Posted on: 10/20/2017 10:44 AM
And after cheaters are found, they block their IP/MAC address, or what ?
How they found which exact person did whatever he did ?
"Catch cheaters", where do they put them ?
Devs cannot delete your paid game from your Steam, Origin, Uplay client etc
They can't "delete" your game, that is true, but they can ban you from it. This has been done multiple times. By signing up with steam, you have given them the right to revoke access to a game, or portions of the game, if you break the agreement, which includes cheating.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb-article.php?ref=6899-IOSK-9514
"Playing games should be fun. In order to ensure the best possible online multiplayer experience, Valve allows developers to implement their own systems that detect and permanently ban any disruptive players, such as those using cheats.
Game developers inform Valve when a disruptive player has been detected in their game, and Valve applies the game ban to the account. The game developer is solely responsible for the decision to apply a game ban. Valve only enforces the game ban as instructed by the game developer."
Though it does not prevent someone from launching a game, if it is a multiplayer only game, then being able to launch something you can't play is useless.
And after cheaters are found, they block their IP/MAC address, or what ?
How they found which exact person did whatever he did ?
"Catch cheaters", where do they put them ?
Devs cannot delete your paid game from your Steam, Origin, Uplay client etc
They can't "delete" your game, that is true, but they can ban you from it. This has been done multiple times. By signing up with steam, you have given them the right to revoke access to a game, or portions of the game, if you break the agreement, which includes cheating.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb-article.php?ref=6899-IOSK-9514
"Playing games should be fun. In order to ensure the best possible online multiplayer experience, Valve allows developers to implement their own systems that detect and permanently ban any disruptive players, such as those using cheats.
Game developers inform Valve when a disruptive player has been detected in their game, and Valve applies the game ban to the account. The game developer is solely responsible for the decision to apply a game ban. Valve only enforces the game ban as instructed by the game developer."
Though it does not prevent someone from launching a game, if it is a multiplayer only game, then being able to launch something you can't play is useless.
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#5483678 Posted on: 10/20/2017 10:55 AM
My feelings are way different:
`I just bought an expensive cpu + gpu combination, can you microsoft leave my cpu handling my game and not doing things i m not asking?`
i bet it collects also inputs, drivers hack,
My feelings are way different:
`I just bought an expensive cpu + gpu combination, can you microsoft leave my cpu handling my game and not doing things i m not asking?`
i bet it collects also inputs, drivers hack,
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#5483682 Posted on: 10/20/2017 11:15 AM
My feelings are way different:
`I just bought an expensive cpu + gpu combination, can you microsoft leave my cpu handling my game and not doing things i m not asking?`
i bet it collects also inputs, drivers hack,
The issue definately is the question of what m$ tracks and saves. But performance wise, if everything works like inteded, you shouldn't be crippled if you bought expensive (= well performing) hardware.
My feelings are way different:
`I just bought an expensive cpu + gpu combination, can you microsoft leave my cpu handling my game and not doing things i m not asking?`
i bet it collects also inputs, drivers hack,
The issue definately is the question of what m$ tracks and saves. But performance wise, if everything works like inteded, you shouldn't be crippled if you bought expensive (= well performing) hardware.
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#5483685 Posted on: 10/20/2017 11:22 AM
Thats why I had problems wiyh RTSS..?
As far "game mode" bring me only problems.. with zero performance increase.
This mode dnt look like component for gammers at all to me.
Or its just another ms spytool..?
Thats why I had problems wiyh RTSS..?
As far "game mode" bring me only problems.. with zero performance increase.
This mode dnt look like component for gammers at all to me.
Or its just another ms spytool..?
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#5483688 Posted on: 10/20/2017 11:35 AM
"but you just need to wonder though, what kind else does Microsoft collect, and for what purposes they could use it. E.g. what else is Microsoft watching and logging?"
Most likely watching and logging everything you do on your Windows 10 system and sending it back continuously. Remember, when something is given away for free "you" (and your data and usage) are the (valuable) product (for monetisation). Wasn't that what it was designed for? Most likely the US government agencies pays them a lovely amount of money to collect some of the data they want to get their hands on.
"but you just need to wonder though, what kind else does Microsoft collect, and for what purposes they could use it. E.g. what else is Microsoft watching and logging?"
Most likely watching and logging everything you do on your Windows 10 system and sending it back continuously. Remember, when something is given away for free "you" (and your data and usage) are the (valuable) product (for monetisation). Wasn't that what it was designed for? Most likely the US government agencies pays them a lovely amount of money to collect some of the data they want to get their hands on.
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#5483693 Posted on: 10/20/2017 11:54 AM
"but you just need to wonder though, what kind else does Microsoft collect, and for what purposes they could use it. E.g. what else is Microsoft watching and logging?"
Most likely watching and logging everything you do on your Windows 10 system and sending it back continuously. Remember, when something is given away for free "you" (and your data and usage) are the (valuable) product (for monetisation). Wasn't that what it was designed for? Most likely the US government agencies pays them a lovely amount of money to collect some of the data they want to get their hands on.
Too much data. It becomes hard to use really. I think it would be more selective what they collect since collecting everything would be bad.
"but you just need to wonder though, what kind else does Microsoft collect, and for what purposes they could use it. E.g. what else is Microsoft watching and logging?"
Most likely watching and logging everything you do on your Windows 10 system and sending it back continuously. Remember, when something is given away for free "you" (and your data and usage) are the (valuable) product (for monetisation). Wasn't that what it was designed for? Most likely the US government agencies pays them a lovely amount of money to collect some of the data they want to get their hands on.
Too much data. It becomes hard to use really. I think it would be more selective what they collect since collecting everything would be bad.
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I hope this works well.