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Intel Z390 motherboard spotted in SiSoft Database
We already talked a little about the fact that Intel would/might be releasing another chipset called Z390 later this year. That is next to Coffee lake 6-core processors on what is to be the Z370 platform. A Z390 motherboard now has surfaced in the SiSoft Sandra database.
Intel has an 8-core 14nm Coffee Lake processor in the works. The information surfaced from an XTU errata log is showing change-log entry that reads out as "[CFL] Added support for 8,2 core,", see below. CFL obviously is short for Coffee Lake.
It would be an interesting move from Intel, as typically they design one desktop processor and base all models off from that one proc. To create an additional processor holding 8-cores is very unusual. If correct, this would be an 8-core/16-threaded part in the mainstream segment, and that would mean serious competition for AMD Ryzen 7.
The new info is derived from videocardz, who spotted the unit in the Sisoft database. it is listed with a 6-core proc (we assume the procs will be backward compatible. The entry comes from SMC (Super Micro). While originally intended for release late 2017, I do expect a launch Q1/Q2 2018 realistically with how incredibly low stock is for Coffee lake processors.
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With the speed of light Intel is prepping the Coffee lake launch with up-to 6-core processors. As you guys have learned these Socket LGA1151 procs will not work on your Z270 motherboard, you'll have...
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#5492438 Posted on: 11/15/2017 03:34 PM
Why a new chipset for an 8 core version of Coffee Lake? Is the 8 core variant seriously not supported by Z370 or something!?
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
Why a new chipset for an 8 core version of Coffee Lake? Is the 8 core variant seriously not supported by Z370 or something!?
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
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#5492444 Posted on: 11/15/2017 03:50 PM
Fixed
No it's quite logical, you need new mobo for 8-core because intel n̶e̶e̶d̶s̶ wants your money..
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#5492449 Posted on: 11/15/2017 04:01 PM
this is horrible. so many new chipsets make brand new mobos obsolete.
It is no surprise intel is an Israeli company...explains all of their conniving, back stabbing, money grabbing actions.
this is horrible. so many new chipsets make brand new mobos obsolete.
It is no surprise intel is an Israeli company...explains all of their conniving, back stabbing, money grabbing actions.
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#5492457 Posted on: 11/15/2017 04:34 PM
Z270 for 4-core, Z370 for 6-core, Z390 for 8-core, X299 for 10-core, sounds legit, it's Intel we are talking about.
Z270 for 4-core, Z370 for 6-core, Z390 for 8-core, X299 for 10-core, sounds legit, it's Intel we are talking about.
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#5492458 Posted on: 11/15/2017 04:34 PM
That's Intels idea of a joke and it ain't funny. I seem to remember reading about this a couple of months back, I couldn't believe what I was reading but it appears to be true. Intel are bloody numpties
Still, I'm looking forward to the Ryzen refresh and maybe swap out my 1600X if the mood takes me (and my bank allows it!). The AM4 platform makes far more sense.
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
That's Intels idea of a joke and it ain't funny. I seem to remember reading about this a couple of months back, I couldn't believe what I was reading but it appears to be true. Intel are bloody numpties
Still, I'm looking forward to the Ryzen refresh and maybe swap out my 1600X if the mood takes me (and my bank allows it!). The AM4 platform makes far more sense.
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#5492464 Posted on: 11/15/2017 05:04 PM
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Why a new chipset for an 8 core version of Coffee Lake? Is the 8 core variant seriously not supported by Z370 or something!?
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
To be honest transitional periods are not the best time to be upgrading better to wait 12 months or so.
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Why a new chipset for an 8 core version of Coffee Lake? Is the 8 core variant seriously not supported by Z370 or something!?
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
To be honest transitional periods are not the best time to be upgrading better to wait 12 months or so.
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#5492507 Posted on: 11/15/2017 06:40 PM
Why a new chipset for an 8 core version of Coffee Lake? Is the 8 core variant seriously not supported by Z370 or something!?
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
I would not be surprised if you need the new chipset for 8 core, the 6 core eats into the socket 2066 6 core sells as it is already, so they have to keep the price up on the 8 core Coffee lake to not eat out of the 2066 8 core sells.
Why a new chipset for an 8 core version of Coffee Lake? Is the 8 core variant seriously not supported by Z370 or something!?
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
I would not be surprised if you need the new chipset for 8 core, the 6 core eats into the socket 2066 6 core sells as it is already, so they have to keep the price up on the 8 core Coffee lake to not eat out of the 2066 8 core sells.
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#5492575 Posted on: 11/15/2017 10:08 PM
It is no surprise intel is an Israeli company...explains all of their conniving, back stabbing, money grabbing actions.
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#5492600 Posted on: 11/15/2017 11:39 PM
Why a new chipset for an 8 core version of Coffee Lake? Is the 8 core variant seriously not supported by Z370 or something!?
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
Are you actually being serious?
If you walk into a dealership and take a model they have on the floor and a new model comes out 3 months later, whose fault is it that you didn't ask?
Long before the coffeelake cpus came out there were articles on guru3d and on the web about how there would be 2 chipsets and that the 390 was supposed to be separate and have support for an 8 core cpu that the 370 did not.
I personally thought it meant an 8 core coffeelake later on but now peope are speculating it will be an icelake cpu but I still knew about it before there were any benches or reviews for coffeelake, and it has influenced my decision to wait if possible.
If as a consumer you have any self respect you should research before buying. I didn't even go looking for the the 390 chipset /8 core articles, there has been a bunch on here.
Why a new chipset for an 8 core version of Coffee Lake? Is the 8 core variant seriously not supported by Z370 or something!?
I literally only just bought the Z370 Apex! Be a joke if the 8 core won't work in it
Are you actually being serious?
If you walk into a dealership and take a model they have on the floor and a new model comes out 3 months later, whose fault is it that you didn't ask?
Long before the coffeelake cpus came out there were articles on guru3d and on the web about how there would be 2 chipsets and that the 390 was supposed to be separate and have support for an 8 core cpu that the 370 did not.
I personally thought it meant an 8 core coffeelake later on but now peope are speculating it will be an icelake cpu but I still knew about it before there were any benches or reviews for coffeelake, and it has influenced my decision to wait if possible.
If as a consumer you have any self respect you should research before buying. I didn't even go looking for the the 390 chipset /8 core articles, there has been a bunch on here.
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#5492620 Posted on: 11/16/2017 12:49 AM
Holly Molly another one
! how many chipsets Intel needs on such a short amount of time ??? o_O
Holly Molly another one
! how many chipsets Intel needs on such a short amount of time ??? o_O
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#5492657 Posted on: 11/16/2017 05:21 AM
As many as people are willing to buy.
This chipset has to be the most reduntant chipset ever made i dont even know what to think about these releases lately from intel.
As many as people are willing to buy.
This chipset has to be the most reduntant chipset ever made i dont even know what to think about these releases lately from intel.
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#5492670 Posted on: 11/16/2017 06:34 AM
It's terrible that another chipset needs to exist just so it can support an 8 core! It was bad enough that the Z370 needs to exist because of the change in pins, which could probably have been worked around. Wonder what the reason is this time!
I bought the Apex for XOC so it's not much of an issue for me I can just sell it after I've done 6 core and get Z390 if need/want to. Just thinking of others that have bought Z370 with potentially no upgrade path to an 8 core chip on it! As long as Z370 supports 8 core all should be OK, if not, well that's not good really is it
It's terrible that another chipset needs to exist just so it can support an 8 core! It was bad enough that the Z370 needs to exist because of the change in pins, which could probably have been worked around. Wonder what the reason is this time!
I bought the Apex for XOC so it's not much of an issue for me I can just sell it after I've done 6 core and get Z390 if need/want to. Just thinking of others that have bought Z370 with potentially no upgrade path to an 8 core chip on it! As long as Z370 supports 8 core all should be OK, if not, well that's not good really is it
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#5492679 Posted on: 11/16/2017 07:12 AM
It's terrible that another chipset needs to exist just so it can support an 8 core! It was bad enough that the Z370 needs to exist because of the change in pins, which could probably have been worked around. Wonder what the reason is this time!
I bought the Apex for XOC so it's not much of an issue for me I can just sell it after I've done 6 core and get Z390 if need/want to. Just thinking of others that have bought Z370 with potentially no upgrade path to an 8 core chip on it! As long as Z370 supports 8 core all should be OK, if not, well that's not good really is itYes it wasn't just for a change in pins, contrary to popular belief (that this was done at the behest of motherboard manufacturers) this was purely Intel greed at its finest!
bit-tech: So if you wanted and Intel let you, you could make Z270 compatible?
Andrew: Yes, but you also require an upgrade from the ME and a BIOS update. Intel somehow has locked the compatibility.
https://www.bit-tech.net/features/tech/motherboards/asus-interview-andrew-wu-rog-motherboard-pm/1
It's terrible that another chipset needs to exist just so it can support an 8 core! It was bad enough that the Z370 needs to exist because of the change in pins, which could probably have been worked around. Wonder what the reason is this time!
I bought the Apex for XOC so it's not much of an issue for me I can just sell it after I've done 6 core and get Z390 if need/want to. Just thinking of others that have bought Z370 with potentially no upgrade path to an 8 core chip on it! As long as Z370 supports 8 core all should be OK, if not, well that's not good really is itYes it wasn't just for a change in pins, contrary to popular belief (that this was done at the behest of motherboard manufacturers) this was purely Intel greed at its finest!
bit-tech: So if you wanted and Intel let you, you could make Z270 compatible?
Andrew: Yes, but you also require an upgrade from the ME and a BIOS update. Intel somehow has locked the compatibility.
https://www.bit-tech.net/features/tech/motherboards/asus-interview-andrew-wu-rog-motherboard-pm/1
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#5492686 Posted on: 11/16/2017 07:48 AM
As many as people are willing to buy.
This chipset has to be the most reduntant chipset ever made i dont even know what to think about these releases lately from intel.
Every chipset from intel has only been good for one generation for like 15 years. The only way you could get 2 cpus out of it is if you were one of those 'a cheap man pays twice' buyers who buy an i5 and then upgrade to an i7 from the same generation. In the business we call these people idiots...
Anyone who buyers an intel chipset expecting 2 generations out of it doesn't have any self respect as a consumer and has done no research.
I'm glad for the constant board refreshes, it means the tech is always up to date. Coffee lake motherboards have 3x m.2 slots on almost all of them, that's what I upgrade for more than a cpu.
As many as people are willing to buy.
This chipset has to be the most reduntant chipset ever made i dont even know what to think about these releases lately from intel.
Every chipset from intel has only been good for one generation for like 15 years. The only way you could get 2 cpus out of it is if you were one of those 'a cheap man pays twice' buyers who buy an i5 and then upgrade to an i7 from the same generation. In the business we call these people idiots...
Anyone who buyers an intel chipset expecting 2 generations out of it doesn't have any self respect as a consumer and has done no research.
I'm glad for the constant board refreshes, it means the tech is always up to date. Coffee lake motherboards have 3x m.2 slots on almost all of them, that's what I upgrade for more than a cpu.
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WOW, however I'm already afraid of those price levels. This will surely be way more expensive mobo+CPU combo than Ryzen 7.