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Intel 10th Gen Core X Cascade Lake HEDT Processors Launch October 7th at ~55 USD per core
October is going to be an interesting month, next to the Radeon RX 5500 release, and new 1650/1660 cards from NVIDIA. Next to that Intel is planning to release a number of new processors, as well as Cascade Lake, is making an entry.
The initial X299 motherboards compatible products are 10-core/20-thread Core i9-10900XE. Then there will be a 12c/t Core i9-10920XE at ~ $700. Intel will also release a 14c/28t i9-10940XE for roughly $800 and then is closing with an 18 Core i9-10960XE at $999. You'll notice that Intel is severely dropping price in order to be competitive with AMD, Intel is going for 50 to 60 USD per core for the HEDT platform. Interestingly enough there is no mention of a 16-core model. It is expected that the single-core turbo will ruin towards 4.7/4.8 GHz.
Cascade Lake gets 44-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 lanes and offers quad-channel DDR4 memory up to 256 GB with official support for DDR4-2933 memory. Your X299 LGA2066 motherboard will be compatible with a BIOS update. Much like what AMD is going to do with the new Threadrippers, Intel will aim these chips at PC enthusiasts and content creators. As things look right now, October 7 you can expect announcements with market availability in November.
Update - intel just gave the thumbs up to post these slides due to the leak:
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#5716379 Posted on: 10/02/2019 09:08 AM
I wonder how long talks the CEO had to have with the board of directors before Intel managed to drop the prices like this. After all, this is quite historical as far as Intel is concerned.
Good luck to stores trying to get rid of the old stock, though, without accepting a personal loss. AMD ought to have expected this at some point, but it will surely change the HEDT market landscape seeing how Intel's CPUs still offer better performance for the same number of cores. That being said, the real competitor for Intel's X 10000 series should be AMD's TR 3000 series, not TR 2000. Assuming AMD doesn't fail repeatedly to get them out.
I wonder how long talks the CEO had to have with the board of directors before Intel managed to drop the prices like this. After all, this is quite historical as far as Intel is concerned.
Good luck to stores trying to get rid of the old stock, though, without accepting a personal loss. AMD ought to have expected this at some point, but it will surely change the HEDT market landscape seeing how Intel's CPUs still offer better performance for the same number of cores. That being said, the real competitor for Intel's X 10000 series should be AMD's TR 3000 series, not TR 2000. Assuming AMD doesn't fail repeatedly to get them out.
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#5716385 Posted on: 10/02/2019 09:29 AM
Cascade Lake X has 48 PCIe Lanes, +4 from the 44 that SKL-X had, which means you can run full 3x x16, or 5x x8 (ie. every slot) + 2 M.2 SSDs
For my personal workstation desires of strong ST and strong MT in one system, with high PCIe lanes, these might finally offer a worthy upgrade. Will have to see how TR 3000 stacks up, particularly in ST load - but since they are apparently only starting with a 24 core model, it seems to once again only focus on MT.
Cascade Lake X has 48 PCIe Lanes, +4 from the 44 that SKL-X had, which means you can run full 3x x16, or 5x x8 (ie. every slot) + 2 M.2 SSDs
For my personal workstation desires of strong ST and strong MT in one system, with high PCIe lanes, these might finally offer a worthy upgrade. Will have to see how TR 3000 stacks up, particularly in ST load - but since they are apparently only starting with a 24 core model, it seems to once again only focus on MT.
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#5716390 Posted on: 10/02/2019 09:55 AM
Did Intel just finally realize they had to cut prices in half to make sense?
Did Intel just finally realize they had to cut prices in half to make sense?
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#5716399 Posted on: 10/02/2019 11:15 AM
according to computerbase the maximum turbo clock (turbo boost 3.0) applies to up to 4 cores.
so finally more than 1-2 active cores are allowed to boost to the maximum at once.
-andy-
according to computerbase the maximum turbo clock (turbo boost 3.0) applies to up to 4 cores.
so finally more than 1-2 active cores are allowed to boost to the maximum at once.
-andy-
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#5716401 Posted on: 10/02/2019 11:31 AM
yes "single-core turbo will ruin towards 4.7/4.8 GHz."
Did Intel just finally realize they had to cut prices in half to make sense?
yes "single-core turbo will ruin towards 4.7/4.8 GHz."
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#5716410 Posted on: 10/02/2019 12:24 PM
This was pretty much hinted at by Intel on their previous promotional slides - and it makes sense. With AMD doubling the core count on their consumer products, there was no way Intel could keep their current HEDT prices (which were already too high to begin with).
For my part, I'm very happy about the price cut. It means that prices for third-gen TR will be very reasonable and I can get the cores I want without breaking the bank. I'm guessing 32 cores will cost a little over a thousand dollars, and if it offers 64 PCIe 4.0 lanes then it will still be miles above whatever Intel can muster with Cascade Lake-X. Feels good man
This was pretty much hinted at by Intel on their previous promotional slides - and it makes sense. With AMD doubling the core count on their consumer products, there was no way Intel could keep their current HEDT prices (which were already too high to begin with).
For my part, I'm very happy about the price cut. It means that prices for third-gen TR will be very reasonable and I can get the cores I want without breaking the bank. I'm guessing 32 cores will cost a little over a thousand dollars, and if it offers 64 PCIe 4.0 lanes then it will still be miles above whatever Intel can muster with Cascade Lake-X. Feels good man
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#5716412 Posted on: 10/02/2019 12:26 PM
So the pricing is now where it should've been...
So the pricing is now where it should've been...
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#5716430 Posted on: 10/02/2019 01:27 PM
Oh wow, 18 Intel cores for under 1000 ...
... so much fingernail biting happening at Intel.
I remember when the 10-core 6950X launched just 3 years ago... for 1700, I said: "This is absolutely ridiculous, it needs to stop !".
Then the gods listened and few months later Ryzen was announced.
There is balance in the Force again ! (almost)
Oh wow, 18 Intel cores for under 1000 ...
... so much fingernail biting happening at Intel.
I remember when the 10-core 6950X launched just 3 years ago... for 1700, I said: "This is absolutely ridiculous, it needs to stop !".
Then the gods listened and few months later Ryzen was announced.
There is balance in the Force again ! (almost)
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#5716434 Posted on: 10/02/2019 01:33 PM
Thanks AMD for finally being competitive. Remember when people said Intel still wouldn't drop their prices? This is great for everyone. Will be interesting to see how performance compares. I've been out of HEDT for a bit, but this pricing is enticing.
Thanks AMD for finally being competitive. Remember when people said Intel still wouldn't drop their prices? This is great for everyone. Will be interesting to see how performance compares. I've been out of HEDT for a bit, but this pricing is enticing.
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#5716438 Posted on: 10/02/2019 01:38 PM
Boss... I am afraid to bring it to you... but your math doesn't check out.
Intel is going for 50 to 60 USD per core for the HEDT platform.
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#5716447 Posted on: 10/02/2019 01:50 PM
That's very good news.
Now do the same to desktop I9 and I7, because you know, that's more important for majority of people.
That's very good news.
Now do the same to desktop I9 and I7, because you know, that's more important for majority of people.
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#5716449 Posted on: 10/02/2019 01:57 PM
55x18=$990
18-core processor is $989
Its the only one that is 55 per core, the rest are more.
Boss... I am afraid to bring it to you... but your math doesn't check out.
55x18=$990
18-core processor is $989
Its the only one that is 55 per core, the rest are more.
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#5716451 Posted on: 10/02/2019 01:59 PM
The thing is.... Threadripper 3000 will most likely rip the entire "new" Intel HEDT lineup to shreds.
Imagine, just imagine that awesome Zen2 core IPC with DOUBLE the memory bandwidth available to it ! Holy cow...
And new TR starts at 24 cores, while the top-end HEDT Intel ends at 18c.
So as "low" as the new prices are, in terms of absolut performance Intel has got Nothing. No-Thing. Not-A-Thing on new TR's.
The thing is.... Threadripper 3000 will most likely rip the entire "new" Intel HEDT lineup to shreds.
Imagine, just imagine that awesome Zen2 core IPC with DOUBLE the memory bandwidth available to it ! Holy cow...
And new TR starts at 24 cores, while the top-end HEDT Intel ends at 18c.
So as "low" as the new prices are, in terms of absolut performance Intel has got Nothing. No-Thing. Not-A-Thing on new TR's.
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#5716460 Posted on: 10/02/2019 02:22 PM
The thing is.... Threadripper 3000 will most likely rip the entire "new" Intel HEDT lineup to shreds.
Imagine, just imagine that awesome Zen2 core IPC with DOUBLE the memory bandwidth available to it ! Holy cow...
And new TR starts at 24 cores, while the top-end HEDT Intel ends at 18c.
So as "low" as the new prices are, in terms of absolut performance Intel has got Nothing. No-Thing. Not-A-Thing on new TR's.
It depends in of usage.
I want very good singlecore performance (low latency), AND good multicore performance. So for me, total performance "full package" leans towards Intel.
Ps; I use Threadripper 1950x for my ubuntu server
The thing is.... Threadripper 3000 will most likely rip the entire "new" Intel HEDT lineup to shreds.
Imagine, just imagine that awesome Zen2 core IPC with DOUBLE the memory bandwidth available to it ! Holy cow...
And new TR starts at 24 cores, while the top-end HEDT Intel ends at 18c.
So as "low" as the new prices are, in terms of absolut performance Intel has got Nothing. No-Thing. Not-A-Thing on new TR's.
It depends in of usage.
I want very good singlecore performance (low latency), AND good multicore performance. So for me, total performance "full package" leans towards Intel.
Ps; I use Threadripper 1950x for my ubuntu server
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Boss... I am afraid to bring it to you... but your math doesn't check out.