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A photo of the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Gaming has surfaced on the web. The 1070 Ti is expected to launch later this month.
It was videocardz who snagged the photos, the card is claimed to be in the G1 Gaming series and would not be a factory tweaked model. The card has been fitted with a single 8-pin power connector and comes with DVI, 3x and a HDMI connected. The card has a Windforce triple-fan cooler and a back-plate. Check the photos below, no final specs have been mentioned.
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#5482710 Posted on: 10/17/2017 09:57 PM
So, this Gigabyte GTX 1070ti only has one 8 pin connector - that's 150W + the 75W that comes from the PCIe slot - so in total only 225W maximum! I don't think that's enough for a card so close to a GTX 1080. My overclocked GTX 1070 can pull over 220W (my card has x2 8pin), so I hope that the fact that with this GTX 1070ti only having one 8pin connector - I hope this doesn't substantiate some of the rumours going around that GTX 1070ti won't even be software manually overclockable! I mean I can't believe that would be the case, but I don't think one 8 pin connector is enough otherwise. Thoughts?
EDIT: from reading around PCIe slot can support 75W-150W, but I think I also remember reading you don't want the PCIe slot pulling too much. If it's safe for PCIe slot to pull 150W, then combined with 8pin connector this gives 300W of potential to the GTX 1070ti pictured here. 300W is enough, but I remember hearing it's bad practice to have the card pulling a lot of Watts through the PCIe slot.
Thoughts on all of this, still concerned that single 8 pin on this card could substantiate rumours that GTX 1070ti is not overclockable.
You do know 150w is just a PCIe spec and not an actual limitation of it right?
A single 8pin, provided wire gauge is sufficient, can supply 200-300w
A 1080 uses about 165w under load, i figure a 1070ti will be 5% less than that.
So even at 225w tdp limit, it should be fine.
Pascal is especially good when undervolted, which reduces power consumption.
So, this Gigabyte GTX 1070ti only has one 8 pin connector - that's 150W + the 75W that comes from the PCIe slot - so in total only 225W maximum! I don't think that's enough for a card so close to a GTX 1080. My overclocked GTX 1070 can pull over 220W (my card has x2 8pin), so I hope that the fact that with this GTX 1070ti only having one 8pin connector - I hope this doesn't substantiate some of the rumours going around that GTX 1070ti won't even be software manually overclockable! I mean I can't believe that would be the case, but I don't think one 8 pin connector is enough otherwise. Thoughts?
EDIT: from reading around PCIe slot can support 75W-150W, but I think I also remember reading you don't want the PCIe slot pulling too much. If it's safe for PCIe slot to pull 150W, then combined with 8pin connector this gives 300W of potential to the GTX 1070ti pictured here. 300W is enough, but I remember hearing it's bad practice to have the card pulling a lot of Watts through the PCIe slot.
Thoughts on all of this, still concerned that single 8 pin on this card could substantiate rumours that GTX 1070ti is not overclockable.
You do know 150w is just a PCIe spec and not an actual limitation of it right?
A single 8pin, provided wire gauge is sufficient, can supply 200-300w
A 1080 uses about 165w under load, i figure a 1070ti will be 5% less than that.
So even at 225w tdp limit, it should be fine.
Pascal is especially good when undervolted, which reduces power consumption.
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#5482841 Posted on: 10/18/2017 03:50 AM
A full-sized ×16 graphics card may draw up to 5.5 A at +12V (66 W) and 75 W combined after initialization and software configuration as a "high power device".
Optional connectors add 75 W (6-pin) or 150 W (8-pin) of +12 V power for up to 300 W total (2×75 W + 1×150 W). Some cards are using two 8-pin connectors, but this has not been standardized yet, therefore such cards must not carry the official PCI Express logo. This configuration allows 375 W total (1×75 W + 2×150 W) and will likely be standardized by PCI-SIG with the PCI Express 4.0 standard. The 8-pin PCI Express connector could be confused with the EPS12V connector, which is mainly used for powering SMP and multi-core systems.
So PCI Express is only 75 Watts
A full-sized ×16 graphics card may draw up to 5.5 A at +12V (66 W) and 75 W combined after initialization and software configuration as a "high power device".
Optional connectors add 75 W (6-pin) or 150 W (8-pin) of +12 V power for up to 300 W total (2×75 W + 1×150 W). Some cards are using two 8-pin connectors, but this has not been standardized yet, therefore such cards must not carry the official PCI Express logo. This configuration allows 375 W total (1×75 W + 2×150 W) and will likely be standardized by PCI-SIG with the PCI Express 4.0 standard. The 8-pin PCI Express connector could be confused with the EPS12V connector, which is mainly used for powering SMP and multi-core systems.
So PCI Express is only 75 Watts
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#5482883 Posted on: 10/18/2017 08:05 AM
You do know 150w is just a PCIe spec and not an actual limitation of it right?
A single 8pin, provided wire gauge is sufficient, can supply 200-300w
A 1080 uses about 165w under load, i figure a 1070ti will be 5% less than that.
So even at 225w tdp limit, it should be fine.
Pascal is especially good when undervolted, which reduces power consumption.
There was a whole hoo-hah when AMD cards exceeded PCIe slot specs, can't remember if this was 75W or 150W. Makes me conclude that it's not good practice to allow it to exceed that. Info I found for 8 pin was 150W, do you have any links you can show me that support that it's ok for 8 pin to supply 200-300W?
Reference GTX 1080 uses 184W under load according to guru3d (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1080_review,8.html), not the 165W you mentioned. But, like I said in my EDIT in my previous post: 150W+150W (PCIe slot + 8pin) = 300W, which should be enough for GTX 1070ti. Factory Overclocked aftermarket GTX 1080 using about 224W according to guru3d (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_1080_strix_oc_11_gbps_review,8.html), and if you were to raise power limit of that in software by up to 20%, then this would be 270W possible ceiling - that's still within the 300W limit that I showed earlier - so looks like we'll be alright with single 8 pin on GTX 1070ti after deliberations, as long as PCIe slot is ok to supply 150W!
A full-sized ×16 graphics card may draw up to 5.5 A at +12V (66 W) and 75 W combined after initialization and software configuration as a "high power device".
Optional connectors add 75 W (6-pin) or 150 W (8-pin) of +12 V power for up to 300 W total (2×75 W + 1×150 W). Some cards are using two 8-pin connectors, but this has not been standardized yet, therefore such cards must not carry the official PCI Express logo. This configuration allows 375 W total (1×75 W + 2×150 W) and will likely be standardized by PCI-SIG with the PCI Express 4.0 standard. The 8-pin PCI Express connector could be confused with the EPS12V connector, which is mainly used for powering SMP and multi-core systems.
So PCI Express is only 75 Watts
Well you found the same information as me initially. A further google and I found in a guru3d graphics card review where it stated something along the lines of PCIe being able to supply 75W-150W.
EDIT: I'm still not convinced that PCIe slot should draw more than 75W, I did some more googling just now on the hoo-hah created by AMD cards drawing more power than they were supposed to from the PCIe slot, it was the RX480 (https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Power-Consumption-Concerns-Fixed-1671-Driver/Power-Testing-). And in this case it was only drawing slightly over 75W (80W+) which AMD then fixed by releasing newer drivers that reduced the amount of power being taken from the PCIe slot. This makes me think that 150W from the PCIe slot is really not advisable. This would mean this GTX 1070ti has 75W + 150W (from 8pin) = 225W, which is not enough for good overclocking of GTX 1070ti. @Agent-A01 said 8pin can pull well over 150W safely, but would be good to see some evidence/links for this. Otherwise I think this card needs another connector.
You do know 150w is just a PCIe spec and not an actual limitation of it right?
A single 8pin, provided wire gauge is sufficient, can supply 200-300w
A 1080 uses about 165w under load, i figure a 1070ti will be 5% less than that.
So even at 225w tdp limit, it should be fine.
Pascal is especially good when undervolted, which reduces power consumption.
There was a whole hoo-hah when AMD cards exceeded PCIe slot specs, can't remember if this was 75W or 150W. Makes me conclude that it's not good practice to allow it to exceed that. Info I found for 8 pin was 150W, do you have any links you can show me that support that it's ok for 8 pin to supply 200-300W?
Reference GTX 1080 uses 184W under load according to guru3d (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1080_review,8.html), not the 165W you mentioned. But, like I said in my EDIT in my previous post: 150W+150W (PCIe slot + 8pin) = 300W, which should be enough for GTX 1070ti. Factory Overclocked aftermarket GTX 1080 using about 224W according to guru3d (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_1080_strix_oc_11_gbps_review,8.html), and if you were to raise power limit of that in software by up to 20%, then this would be 270W possible ceiling - that's still within the 300W limit that I showed earlier - so looks like we'll be alright with single 8 pin on GTX 1070ti after deliberations, as long as PCIe slot is ok to supply 150W!
A full-sized ×16 graphics card may draw up to 5.5 A at +12V (66 W) and 75 W combined after initialization and software configuration as a "high power device".
Optional connectors add 75 W (6-pin) or 150 W (8-pin) of +12 V power for up to 300 W total (2×75 W + 1×150 W). Some cards are using two 8-pin connectors, but this has not been standardized yet, therefore such cards must not carry the official PCI Express logo. This configuration allows 375 W total (1×75 W + 2×150 W) and will likely be standardized by PCI-SIG with the PCI Express 4.0 standard. The 8-pin PCI Express connector could be confused with the EPS12V connector, which is mainly used for powering SMP and multi-core systems.
So PCI Express is only 75 Watts
Well you found the same information as me initially. A further google and I found in a guru3d graphics card review where it stated something along the lines of PCIe being able to supply 75W-150W.
EDIT: I'm still not convinced that PCIe slot should draw more than 75W, I did some more googling just now on the hoo-hah created by AMD cards drawing more power than they were supposed to from the PCIe slot, it was the RX480 (https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Power-Consumption-Concerns-Fixed-1671-Driver/Power-Testing-). And in this case it was only drawing slightly over 75W (80W+) which AMD then fixed by releasing newer drivers that reduced the amount of power being taken from the PCIe slot. This makes me think that 150W from the PCIe slot is really not advisable. This would mean this GTX 1070ti has 75W + 150W (from 8pin) = 225W, which is not enough for good overclocking of GTX 1070ti. @Agent-A01 said 8pin can pull well over 150W safely, but would be good to see some evidence/links for this. Otherwise I think this card needs another connector.
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#5482885 Posted on: 10/18/2017 08:07 AM
I know that post wasn't in answer to me - but easy tiger, don't need that much aggression no!
If you want to say something except copy/paste from official specs then do it because in this case my x5650 is officially 2.66GHZ but hey it works out of specs @4.0GHZ so i guess do little research before you post here because you look newbie..
I know that post wasn't in answer to me - but easy tiger, don't need that much aggression no!
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So, this Gigabyte GTX 1070ti only has one 8 pin connector - that's 150W + the 75W that comes from the PCIe slot - so in total only 225W maximum! I don't think that's enough for a card so close to a GTX 1080. My overclocked GTX 1070 can pull over 220W (my card has x2 8pin), so I hope that the fact that with this GTX 1070ti only having one 8pin connector - I hope this doesn't substantiate some of the rumours going around that GTX 1070ti won't even be software manually overclockable! I mean I can't believe that would be the case, but I don't think one 8 pin connector is enough otherwise. Thoughts?
EDIT: from reading around PCIe slot can support 75W-150W, but I think I also remember reading you don't want the PCIe slot pulling too much. If it's safe for PCIe slot to pull 150W, then combined with 8pin connector this gives 300W of potential to the GTX 1070ti pictured here. 300W is enough, but I remember hearing it's bad practice to have the card pulling a lot of Watts through the PCIe slot.
Thoughts on all of this? Still concerned that single 8 pin on this card could substantiate rumours that GTX 1070ti is not overclockable.