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Guru3D.com » News » Bloomberg: China broke into US companies by adding chip on server motherboards

Bloomberg: China broke into US companies by adding chip on server motherboards

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 10/04/2018 02:15 PM | source: bloomberg | 49 comment(s)
Bloomberg: China broke into US companies by adding chip on server motherboards

Likely the story of the day. Bloomberg posted an extensive article where they claim that the Chinese government tried to infiltrate into US companies by adding chips on server motherboards. 

First, off this, the companies involved and the Chinese government is denying the story, but it seems well investigated, and if true the implications would be enormous as server/mobo provider SuperMicro is involved. And adding a chip into a PCB, is not something you do without corporation of the server motherboard manufacturer. 

So the story is that basically some core logic was added onto the motherboards, chips the sized as a single grain of rice that had it's own IO, a networking interface and even a micro CPU. The discovery was made at Amazon who researched Elemental Technologies, a maker of software for servers that the American company Super Micro Computer, or Supermicro, uses. During that investigation, Amazon stumbled on the extra chip on the motherboard. Initially sized slightly smaller than a fingernail and later on an even smaller version. This chip would be able to contact servers over the web and receive instructions, and it's claimed it would be able to modify the server software, a backdoor. 

The stories get weird here; Apple and Amazon are denying any existence of the chip. "Apple has never found malicious chips, hardware manipulations or vulnerabilities that have been deliberately placed on a server, Apple has never had contact with the FBI or any other service about such an incident," Apple says it has 2000 servers from Supermicro, but denies that it has found the chips. Amazon says in its denial that it found four problems with the purchase of Elemental, a takeover that took place in 2015. None of those were in the hardware.

Have a read here, at bloomberg.







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Typhoon2097
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#5592134 Posted on: 10/04/2018 02:34 PM
Riiiiight... It's not the russians this time, now it's the chinese again... And coincidentally this is published in the middle of US-China trade war :D

poornaprakash
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#5592139 Posted on: 10/04/2018 02:37 PM
If we see things as a whole China now exactly behaving like the old US were. Karma retaliation :p

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#5592140 Posted on: 10/04/2018 02:37 PM
5$ says typhoon is a bot. any takers?

msotirov
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#5592141 Posted on: 10/04/2018 02:38 PM
But a better questing, how does the chip work without drivers? What about OS support?
Or is the chip so simple (dumb) that it doesn't need anything from the OS and just passes info gathered form the onboard nic or hdd controllers to where ever?
The same way your Intel or AMD CPU works without drivers. The driver is embedded in the chip itself and is called "firmware".

By the way, you realize that Intel ME is essentially the same thing like this new supposedly Chinese spy chip. Intel ME has it's own mini-OS running separate from everything else on your PC, complete with network access to top it off.

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#5592144 Posted on: 10/04/2018 02:41 PM
5$ says typhoon is a bot. any takers?


I'll take that 5 bucks anytime ;)

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