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Asus MG279Q 27" Gaming Monitor with 120Hz IPS Panel
Oh yeah, 120Hz IPS baby. Asus are set to release a high refresh rate IPS panel. The new MG279Q is 27" in size and offers a 2560 x 1440 resolution IPS-type panel. It supports refresh rates up to 120Hz, but this model does not list G-sync or Free-sync / Adaptive-sync as supported features.
Spec wise there is a 5ms G2G response time, 1000:1 contrast ratio, 350 cd/m2 brightness and 178/178 viewing angles. The screen offers a narrow bezel design, and a full range of ergonomic adjustments from the stand. DisplayPort, Mini DisplayPort, 2x HDMI and 1x MHL connections are provided. There is also a 2 port USB 3.0 hub included.
No word on pricing or availability yet. The title says it all for this one. The upcoming MG279Q is a gaming monitor focus on giving gamers who demand superior viewing angles and color reproduction a new choice when it comes to a low response and high refresh rate monitor.
This is a upcoming monitor purpose built for gamers who have been looking for an IPS based display with refresh rates higher than 60Hz. While the monitor is still in design and development stages the initial specifications and features and functionality are great.
- Panel size: 27 inches
- Resolution: 2560 x 1440
- Refresh rate: up to 120Hz
- Response time: 5ms ( GTG )
- Contrast ratio: 1000:1
- Brightness: 350 cd/m²
In addition the new MG279Q includes an easy-to-navigate on-screen display (OSD) with a five-way navigation joystick and hotkey shortcuts, an ergonomic design with full tilt, swivel, pivot and height adjustment, and a smart cable-management system in a super narrow bezel design. Connections include DisplayPort, Mini DisplayPort, two HDMI ports (for native WQHD) and a Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) 2.0 socket for 1080p connections to mobile devices, plus simultaneous charging. The MG279Q also has a built-in dual USB 3.0 hub.
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#4988966 Posted on: 01/07/2015 09:32 AM
What people want, is entirely subjective - deal with it! /playing on a 1440p PLS monitor
Lag.... No interest in this. IPS is NOT for gaming. Deal with it...
What people want, is entirely subjective - deal with it! /playing on a 1440p PLS monitor
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#4988972 Posted on: 01/07/2015 10:01 AM
Depends on the gaming and it hasn't been tested yet.
I FPS on a 60Hz monitor with v.low input lag and it works just fine, yet I know the high refresh rate is better, I prefer IPS panels over the vastly inferior TFT panels.
All that needs to happen now is for BenQ to buy these IPS panels and release their IPS 120/144Hz monitor and the circle will be complete for me.
I seriously doubt you (plural) will ever be able to notice any input lag on a monitor rated at 120Hz...
Lag.... No interest in this. IPS is NOT for gaming. Deal with it...
Depends on the gaming and it hasn't been tested yet.
I FPS on a 60Hz monitor with v.low input lag and it works just fine, yet I know the high refresh rate is better, I prefer IPS panels over the vastly inferior TFT panels.
All that needs to happen now is for BenQ to buy these IPS panels and release their IPS 120/144Hz monitor and the circle will be complete for me.
I seriously doubt you (plural) will ever be able to notice any input lag on a monitor rated at 120Hz...
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#4988976 Posted on: 01/07/2015 10:42 AM
Depends on the gaming and it hasn't been tested yet.
I FPS on a 60Hz monitor with v.low input lag and it works just fine, yet I know the high refresh rate is better, I prefer IPS panels over the vastly inferior TFT panels.
All that needs to happen now is for BenQ to buy these IPS panels and release their IPS 120/144Hz monitor and the circle will be complete for me.
I seriously doubt you (plural) will ever be able to notice any input lag on a monitor rated at 120Hz...
I quite agree.
But would add in details:
- Input lag difference between IPS and TN is so small it is nearly impossible to see (this comes from transition times as pixels change state)
- there is 0ms difference in input lag from processing electronic for TN vs IPS
- biggest input lag culprits are: DirectX to Driver handling, 2 / 3 buffering - vsync / 125Hz refresh on mouse + windows kernel handling events from inputs
(all those cause much more lag than gaming monitors, yes usual TV with all post processing can double total input lag)
- IPS with 5ms GTG is not bad at all, one should see it and moving objects may actually look more natural
Those who want to reduce delay between signal from mouse to response on screen, Adaptive Sync functionality would be much more beneficial than TFT matrix since it effectively eliminates one back buffer use.
Depends on the gaming and it hasn't been tested yet.
I FPS on a 60Hz monitor with v.low input lag and it works just fine, yet I know the high refresh rate is better, I prefer IPS panels over the vastly inferior TFT panels.
All that needs to happen now is for BenQ to buy these IPS panels and release their IPS 120/144Hz monitor and the circle will be complete for me.
I seriously doubt you (plural) will ever be able to notice any input lag on a monitor rated at 120Hz...
I quite agree.
But would add in details:
- Input lag difference between IPS and TN is so small it is nearly impossible to see (this comes from transition times as pixels change state)
- there is 0ms difference in input lag from processing electronic for TN vs IPS
- biggest input lag culprits are: DirectX to Driver handling, 2 / 3 buffering - vsync / 125Hz refresh on mouse + windows kernel handling events from inputs
(all those cause much more lag than gaming monitors, yes usual TV with all post processing can double total input lag)
- IPS with 5ms GTG is not bad at all, one should see it and moving objects may actually look more natural
Those who want to reduce delay between signal from mouse to response on screen, Adaptive Sync functionality would be much more beneficial than TFT matrix since it effectively eliminates one back buffer use.
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#4989001 Posted on: 01/07/2015 12:29 PM
Lag and responses time are two different things...
Lag.... No interest in this. IPS is NOT for gaming. Deal with it...
Lag and responses time are two different things...
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#4989002 Posted on: 01/07/2015 12:29 PM
5 ms is fast enough for 120 Hz. Input lag is totally on the image processor used, not really the panel.
The question is not if it can work, but does it work well for gaming.
Lag.... No interest in this. IPS is NOT for gaming. Deal with it...
5 ms is fast enough for 120 Hz. Input lag is totally on the image processor used, not really the panel.
The question is not if it can work, but does it work well for gaming.
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#4989042 Posted on: 01/07/2015 02:14 PM
The difference in input lag of 1ms vs 5ms at 120hz would just be impossible to notice... it is on TN panels anyway. Unsure about the new displayport ips panels, but its highly likely a non-issue also.
Lag.... No interest in this. IPS is NOT for gaming. Deal with it...
The difference in input lag of 1ms vs 5ms at 120hz would just be impossible to notice... it is on TN panels anyway. Unsure about the new displayport ips panels, but its highly likely a non-issue also.
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#4989067 Posted on: 01/07/2015 03:29 PM
I guess you missed some of the posts ahead of yours, but that is the spec for pixel response, which has 0 to do with input lag. Its why my last monitor purchase was the HPZR2740W. It has zero image processing and not even an OSD, thus basically no input lag. The pixel response could be better but was basically the best performing 1440p IPS at the time. Fast enough for UT3 though. I get minimal but noticeable ghosting from planes flying past me in my flight sim. If the ASUS has a 'game mode' that sorts out any potential input lag, the 5ms 120hz should be relatively ghost free. I might have to figure out how to unload my HP monitor somewhere.
The difference in input lag of 1ms vs 5ms at 120hz would just be impossible to notice... it is on TN panels anyway. Unsure about the new displayport ips panels, but its highly likely a non-issue also.
I guess you missed some of the posts ahead of yours, but that is the spec for pixel response, which has 0 to do with input lag. Its why my last monitor purchase was the HPZR2740W. It has zero image processing and not even an OSD, thus basically no input lag. The pixel response could be better but was basically the best performing 1440p IPS at the time. Fast enough for UT3 though. I get minimal but noticeable ghosting from planes flying past me in my flight sim. If the ASUS has a 'game mode' that sorts out any potential input lag, the 5ms 120hz should be relatively ghost free. I might have to figure out how to unload my HP monitor somewhere.
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#4989075 Posted on: 01/07/2015 03:36 PM
This. He's obviously very confused
Lag and responses time are two different things...
This. He's obviously very confused
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#4989241 Posted on: 01/07/2015 09:37 PM
I already own a Overlord Tempest X270OC which does 120HZ at 2560x1440. Great for gaming. I doubt this Asus monitor will be as cheap but it does seem to have more features
I already own a Overlord Tempest X270OC which does 120HZ at 2560x1440. Great for gaming. I doubt this Asus monitor will be as cheap but it does seem to have more features
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#4989564 Posted on: 01/08/2015 04:19 PM
If not advertized by Asus, it seems the monitor is Freesync capable.
It use DP1.2a+ with adaptivesync, so basically it should been compatible with Freesync.
it is the first display that publicly supports Adaptive Sync and DP 1.2a+ but does not have an affiliation with either branded variable refresh rate technology. As it turns out though, that isn't bad news.
http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/CES-2015-ASUS-MG279Q-27-2560x1440-IPS-120-Hz-Variable-Refresh-Monitor
If not advertized by Asus, it seems the monitor is Freesync capable.
It use DP1.2a+ with adaptivesync, so basically it should been compatible with Freesync.
it is the first display that publicly supports Adaptive Sync and DP 1.2a+ but does not have an affiliation with either branded variable refresh rate technology. As it turns out though, that isn't bad news.
The monitor supports DP 1.2a+ and Adaptive Sync which leads us too...
...the fact that this monitor will work with AMD Radeon graphics cards and operate at a variable refresh rate. After talking with AMD's Robert Hallock at the show, he confirmed that AMD will not have a whitelist/blacklist policy for FreeSync displays and that as long as a monitor adheres to the standards of DP 1.2a+ then they will operate in the variable refresh rate window as defined by the display's EDID.
So, as described by the ASUS reps on hand, this panel will have a minimum refresh of around 40 Hz and a maximum of 120 Hz, leaving a sizeable window for variable refresh to work it's magic.
...the fact that this monitor will work with AMD Radeon graphics cards and operate at a variable refresh rate. After talking with AMD's Robert Hallock at the show, he confirmed that AMD will not have a whitelist/blacklist policy for FreeSync displays and that as long as a monitor adheres to the standards of DP 1.2a+ then they will operate in the variable refresh rate window as defined by the display's EDID.
So, as described by the ASUS reps on hand, this panel will have a minimum refresh of around 40 Hz and a maximum of 120 Hz, leaving a sizeable window for variable refresh to work it's magic.
http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/CES-2015-ASUS-MG279Q-27-2560x1440-IPS-120-Hz-Variable-Refresh-Monitor
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#4989570 Posted on: 01/08/2015 04:31 PM
Lag.... No interest in this. IPS is NOT for gaming. Deal with it...
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#4989573 Posted on: 01/08/2015 04:42 PM
What is funny,
A new monitor 60hz IPS/PLS is shown, some peoples write: 120hz or nothing
A new monitor 120hz TN is shown, some peoples: IPS 120hz or nothing.
A new monitor 120hz IPS is showing: some peoples TN or nothing.
In 2 minutes: SuperAmoled 4K 240hz 32" or nothing...
lol hopefully there's one monitor for everyone in the list.
What is funny,
A new monitor 60hz IPS/PLS is shown, some peoples write: 120hz or nothing
A new monitor 120hz TN is shown, some peoples: IPS 120hz or nothing.
A new monitor 120hz IPS is showing: some peoples TN or nothing.
In 2 minutes: SuperAmoled 4K 240hz 32" or nothing...
lol hopefully there's one monitor for everyone in the list.
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#4989583 Posted on: 01/08/2015 05:29 PM
If not advertized by Asus, it seems the monitor is Freesync capable.
It use DP1.2a+ with adaptivesync, so basically it should been compatible with Freesync.
http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/CES-2015-ASUS-MG279Q-27-2560x1440-IPS-120-Hz-Variable-Refresh-Monitor
I hope it supports Freesync -- I might switch if it does and Nvidia continues to go it's own route.
If not advertized by Asus, it seems the monitor is Freesync capable.
It use DP1.2a+ with adaptivesync, so basically it should been compatible with Freesync.
http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/CES-2015-ASUS-MG279Q-27-2560x1440-IPS-120-Hz-Variable-Refresh-Monitor
I hope it supports Freesync -- I might switch if it does and Nvidia continues to go it's own route.
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#4989588 Posted on: 01/08/2015 05:41 PM
It will be needed to see when released:
but, this monitor can operate only from 40hz to 120hz ( this could be the reason why it dont have the freesync " logo ". ) Then ofc it will be seen if Asus dont block it on firmware ( i dont see why they will do it., even if i can think to one reason ).
I hope it supports Freesync -- I might switch if it does and Nvidia continues to go it's own route.
It will be needed to see when released:
but, this monitor can operate only from 40hz to 120hz ( this could be the reason why it dont have the freesync " logo ". ) Then ofc it will be seen if Asus dont block it on firmware ( i dont see why they will do it., even if i can think to one reason ).
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Lag.... No interest in this. IPS is NOT for gaming. Deal with it...