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AMD Vulkan 1.0 Spec Announcement
AMD’s Radeon Technologies Group (RTG) is excited about the imminent release of the ratified Vulkan 1.0 Specification by the Khronos™ Group. We started this journey in June of 2014 when AMD submitted the XGL proposal based on our work on Mantle. Once accepted by the OpenGL Next working group, AMD helped steward it through committee via our role as spec editors.
With this transition to public availability of the Vulkan 1.0 API specifications, AMD will be releasing a beta version of our Vulkan™ API-enabled Radeon™ Software driver. This new driver, in-concert with Radeon™ graphics hardware, enables PC game developers to remove historical software bottlenecks which will unleash new, rich visual gaming experiences.
As a complement to OpenGL™, descended from AMD’s Mantle, and forged by the industry, Vulkan™ is a powerful low-overhead graphics API that gives software developers deep control over the performance, efficiency, and capabilities of Radeon™ GPUs and multi-core CPUs. Compared to OpenGL, Vulkan™ substantially reduces API overhead, which is background work a GPU or CPU must do to interpret what a game is asking of the hardware. Reducing this overhead gives hardware much more time to spend on delivering meaningful features, performance, and image quality. Vulkan™ also exposes GPU hardware features not ordinarily accessible through OpenGL, and uniquely supports Windows® 7, Windows® 8.1, Windows® 10, Android, and Linux.
With the consortium of hardware and software companies that make up the Khronos™ Group, AMD is looking forward to the delivering the latest and greatest game rendering technologies to millions of users and many operating systems simultaneously:
“The release of the Vulkan™ 1.0 specification is a huge step forward for developers. The Vulkan™ API, which was derived from Mantle, will bring the benefits of low-overhead high-performance Graphics API to the benefit of cross-platform and cross-vendor targeted applications,“ said Raja Koduri, Senior Vice President and Chief Architect, Radeon Technologies Group, AMD. “The promotion of open and scalable technologies continues to be the focus at AMD, as a pioneer in the low-overhead API space. As a member of the Khronos™ Group, AMD is proud to collaborate with hardware and software industry leaders to develop the Vulkan™ API to ignite the next evolution in PC game development.”
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#5232639 Posted on: 02/16/2016 04:15 PM
It will benefit us all.
It will benefit us all.
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#5232643 Posted on: 02/16/2016 04:21 PM
Seems Nvidia has a Vulkan API driver as well, good to see both GPU vendors moving to quickly support this.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/vulkan-graphics-api-launches-nvidia-gpus-game-ready
EDIT: And Talos Principle now supports Vulkan with the new beta patch as of today.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/257510/discussions/0/412447331651559970/
EDIT: The current driver for AMD is a development driver with no support for DirectX so I wouldn't install it for this one game, for Nvidia it's a older branch but should be a fully functional display driver other than it possibly missing the most recent code improvements and profiles.
Seems Nvidia has a Vulkan API driver as well, good to see both GPU vendors moving to quickly support this.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/vulkan-graphics-api-launches-nvidia-gpus-game-ready
EDIT: And Talos Principle now supports Vulkan with the new beta patch as of today.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/257510/discussions/0/412447331651559970/
EDIT: The current driver for AMD is a development driver with no support for DirectX so I wouldn't install it for this one game, for Nvidia it's a older branch but should be a fully functional display driver other than it possibly missing the most recent code improvements and profiles.
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#5232645 Posted on: 02/16/2016 04:27 PM
Supports 7 and 8.1
The beginning of the end of MS's strategy to force gamers to Windows 10?
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Needs specific drivers
https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/radeon-vulkan-beta.aspx
Supports 7 and 8.1
The beginning of the end of MS's strategy to force gamers to Windows 10?
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Needs specific drivers
https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/radeon-vulkan-beta.aspx
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#5232646 Posted on: 02/16/2016 04:30 PM
So there's a future for gaming on a Linux platform with this x-platform API?
So there's a future for gaming on a Linux platform with this x-platform API?
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#5232647 Posted on: 02/16/2016 04:30 PM
Bet m$ is in hurry to milk as much people as possible before there any competition in DX.
Bet m$ is in hurry to milk as much people as possible before there any competition in DX.
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#5232657 Posted on: 02/16/2016 04:44 PM
I wonder if this will actually make Linux-based OSes a viable option compared to Windows. The world needs this so much. MS has been done crappy OSes for a while now, I would love to have a real option to abandon Windows.
Either way, if we can use this on an older, more functional Windows, that would be great already. Finally would be the freedom that MS denied to us, power users.
I wonder if this will actually make Linux-based OSes a viable option compared to Windows. The world needs this so much. MS has been done crappy OSes for a while now, I would love to have a real option to abandon Windows.
Either way, if we can use this on an older, more functional Windows, that would be great already. Finally would be the freedom that MS denied to us, power users.
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#5232663 Posted on: 02/16/2016 04:54 PM
Seems Nvidia has a Vulkan API driver as well, good to see both GPU vendors moving to quickly support this.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/vulkan-graphics-api-launches-nvidia-gpus-game-ready
EDIT: And Talos Principle now supports Vulkan with the new beta patch as of today.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/257510/discussions/0/412447331651559970/
EDIT: The current driver for AMD is a development driver with no support for DirectX so I wouldn't install it for this one game, for Nvidia it's a older branch but should be a fully functional display driver other than it possibly missing the most recent code improvements and profiles.
Going to take the plunge on The Talos Principle this evening. I don't mind being the guinea pig and sharing some results with the built in benchmark.
Seems Nvidia has a Vulkan API driver as well, good to see both GPU vendors moving to quickly support this.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/vulkan-graphics-api-launches-nvidia-gpus-game-ready
EDIT: And Talos Principle now supports Vulkan with the new beta patch as of today.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/257510/discussions/0/412447331651559970/
EDIT: The current driver for AMD is a development driver with no support for DirectX so I wouldn't install it for this one game, for Nvidia it's a older branch but should be a fully functional display driver other than it possibly missing the most recent code improvements and profiles.
Going to take the plunge on The Talos Principle this evening. I don't mind being the guinea pig and sharing some results with the built in benchmark.
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#5232666 Posted on: 02/16/2016 05:00 PM
They probably largely do not care.
DX is nothing compared to what games engines are running, or, are capable of compiling games to.
So you got your game running on UE4, with one click of a button, you can compile it to:
https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Platforms/index.html
It's not about the API any longer, it's about the game engine and what platforms it can deliver to.
Still C++ game code, dewd - and that money goes to M$, one way or another.
And, that's just UE4...plenty of other AAA game engines out there, let alone the graphics engines and middleware...
Bet m$ is in hurry to milk as much people as possible before there any competition in DX.
They probably largely do not care.
DX is nothing compared to what games engines are running, or, are capable of compiling games to.
So you got your game running on UE4, with one click of a button, you can compile it to:
https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Platforms/index.html
It's not about the API any longer, it's about the game engine and what platforms it can deliver to.
Still C++ game code, dewd - and that money goes to M$, one way or another.
And, that's just UE4...plenty of other AAA game engines out there, let alone the graphics engines and middleware...
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#5232668 Posted on: 02/16/2016 05:03 PM
They probably largely do not care.
DX is nothing compared to what games engines are running, or, are capable of compiling games to.
So you got your game running on UE4, with one click of a button, you can compile it to:
https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Platforms/index.html
It's not about the API any longer, it's about the game engine and what platforms it can deliver to.
Still C++ game code, dewd - and that money goes to M$, one way or another.
And, that's just UE4...plenty of other AAA game engines out there, let alone the graphics engines and middleware...
I disagree. While MS will still profit as you say, they would profit more if they could "force" all gamers to Windows 10 because of everything requiring DX12. They tried the same thing with Vista with Halo 2. MS wants people on Windows 10s' ecosystem with the Store and trash that comes with it.
They probably largely do not care.
DX is nothing compared to what games engines are running, or, are capable of compiling games to.
So you got your game running on UE4, with one click of a button, you can compile it to:
https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Platforms/index.html
It's not about the API any longer, it's about the game engine and what platforms it can deliver to.
Still C++ game code, dewd - and that money goes to M$, one way or another.
And, that's just UE4...plenty of other AAA game engines out there, let alone the graphics engines and middleware...
I disagree. While MS will still profit as you say, they would profit more if they could "force" all gamers to Windows 10 because of everything requiring DX12. They tried the same thing with Vista with Halo 2. MS wants people on Windows 10s' ecosystem with the Store and trash that comes with it.
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#5232671 Posted on: 02/16/2016 05:10 PM
I wonder if this will actually make Linux-based OSes a viable option compared to Windows. The world needs this so much. MS has been done crappy OSes for a while now, I would love to have a real option to abandon Windows.
Either way, if we can use this on an older, more functional Windows, that would be great already. Finally would be the freedom that MS denied to us, power users.
Linux based-OS are a viable option for a while. I've been using mostly Ubuntu 14.04 to play my games, and Steam have a great number of games that runs well on Linux. In my library I have, among others, Bioshock Infinite, CS: GO, Rust, ETS2, FM16, Portal 2...
And yes, my GTX750Ti runs pretty fine there, without issues.
I wonder if this will actually make Linux-based OSes a viable option compared to Windows. The world needs this so much. MS has been done crappy OSes for a while now, I would love to have a real option to abandon Windows.
Either way, if we can use this on an older, more functional Windows, that would be great already. Finally would be the freedom that MS denied to us, power users.
Linux based-OS are a viable option for a while. I've been using mostly Ubuntu 14.04 to play my games, and Steam have a great number of games that runs well on Linux. In my library I have, among others, Bioshock Infinite, CS: GO, Rust, ETS2, FM16, Portal 2...
And yes, my GTX750Ti runs pretty fine there, without issues.
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#5232675 Posted on: 02/16/2016 05:12 PM
Linux based-OS are a viable option for a while. I've been using mostly Ubuntu 14.04 to play my games, and Steam have a great number of games that runs well on Linux. In my library I have, among others, Bioshock Infinite, CS: GO, Rust, ETS2, FM16, Portal 2...
And yes, my GTX750Ti runs pretty fine there, without issues.
Linux's main advantage is that it's not a memory hog like Windows (unless you install KDE and a ****load of extra stuff). Windows 10 takes ~1.5GB in idle whereas GNOME 3 is around ~600 give or take a bit.
So with proper Vulkan drivers/games, it should run the same, if not better than Windows.
Linux based-OS are a viable option for a while. I've been using mostly Ubuntu 14.04 to play my games, and Steam have a great number of games that runs well on Linux. In my library I have, among others, Bioshock Infinite, CS: GO, Rust, ETS2, FM16, Portal 2...
And yes, my GTX750Ti runs pretty fine there, without issues.
Linux's main advantage is that it's not a memory hog like Windows (unless you install KDE and a ****load of extra stuff). Windows 10 takes ~1.5GB in idle whereas GNOME 3 is around ~600 give or take a bit.
So with proper Vulkan drivers/games, it should run the same, if not better than Windows.
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#5232677 Posted on: 02/16/2016 05:14 PM
Linux's main advantage is that it's not a memory hog like Windows (unless you install KDE and a ****load of extra stuff). Windows 10 takes ~1.5GB in idle whereas GNOME 3 is around ~600 give or take a bit.
So with proper Vulkan drivers/games, it should run the same, if not better than Windows.
Tablets running Windows 8/10 run at about 500/600MB memory used. It's not too bad.
Linux's main advantage is that it's not a memory hog like Windows (unless you install KDE and a ****load of extra stuff). Windows 10 takes ~1.5GB in idle whereas GNOME 3 is around ~600 give or take a bit.
So with proper Vulkan drivers/games, it should run the same, if not better than Windows.
Tablets running Windows 8/10 run at about 500/600MB memory used. It's not too bad.
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#5232678 Posted on: 02/16/2016 05:16 PM
I do not care much about memory, I have 16GB and let's be honest, the memory nowadays is cheap and it was made to be used, so I do not care much about those 1.5GB that Windows use.
I had other motivations to move to Ubuntu (mostly programming), but since I tried to play games there, I'm really happy and probably in the near future the Windows will be gone for good.
I do not care much about memory, I have 16GB and let's be honest, the memory nowadays is cheap and it was made to be used, so I do not care much about those 1.5GB that Windows use.
I had other motivations to move to Ubuntu (mostly programming), but since I tried to play games there, I'm really happy and probably in the near future the Windows will be gone for good.
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#5232685 Posted on: 02/16/2016 05:52 PM
Vulkan, an API to increment Linux is coming and Microsoft want you play games in window mode in Microsoft Store.
Vulkan, an API to increment Linux is coming and Microsoft want you play games in window mode in Microsoft Store.
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The dismantling of DirectX begins...long overdue too