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AMD Renoir Ryzen 7 4800U Gets Geekbenched
At geekbench a Lenovo notebook embedded with Ryzen 7 4800U 8-core/16-thread processor has been spotted. That's renoir based on ZEN2 cores.
The Ryzen 7 4800U achieves a 4910 single-core, and 21693 multi-core which is pretty impressive for something at 15 Watt really, hack faster than a Core i7-1065G7. The Ryzen 7 4800U features eight Zen 2 cores, 16 threads, up to 4.2GHz boost, up to 1.8GHz base, eight Radeon cores, and 15W TDP. Graphics will be 28% better than Intel's Core i7, Su said, 90% better on multi-thread performance and 4% higher on single-thread performance. "In 2020, we will be introducing the best laptop processor ever built," Dr Lisa Su, AMD CEO, said during the press conference. The processors will use AMD's 7nm technology.
| Cores / Threads | Clock speed | Max boost | Compute units | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryzen 7 4800H | 8/16 | 2.9 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 8 |
| Ryzen 5 4600H | 6/12 | 3.0 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 6 |
| Ryzen 7 4800U | 8/16 | 1.8 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 8 |
| Ryzen 7 4700 U | 8/8 | 2.0 GHz | 4.1 GHz | 7 |
| Ryzen 5 4600 U | 6/12 | 2.1 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 6 |
| Ryzen 5 4500U | 6/6 | 2.3 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 6 |
| Ryzen 3 4300U | 4/4 | 2.7 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 5 |
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#5752699 Posted on: 01/21/2020 10:05 AM
Well, it is the 15 watt part. Can't be too big of a GPU.
Only 28% difference on Graphics scale? Damn Intel caught up nicely on GPU performance.
Well, it is the 15 watt part. Can't be too big of a GPU.
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#5752700 Posted on: 01/21/2020 10:06 AM
Is this a joke? A 30% difference for a 15W TDP part is massive.
Only 28% difference on Graphics scale? Damn Intel caught up nicely on GPU performance.
Is this a joke? A 30% difference for a 15W TDP part is massive.
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#5752704 Posted on: 01/21/2020 10:15 AM
Toss3, as you said, in a very limited TDP as 15W for both CPU and GPU, 30% above an already good performance GPU on the Intel, is massive. Intel had bad drivers, AMD and nvidia have excellent drivers, so games should run at a i7 + MX250 level but at 40% of the TDP and less size.
Toss3, as you said, in a very limited TDP as 15W for both CPU and GPU, 30% above an already good performance GPU on the Intel, is massive. Intel had bad drivers, AMD and nvidia have excellent drivers, so games should run at a i7 + MX250 level but at 40% of the TDP and less size.
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#5752752 Posted on: 01/21/2020 12:45 PM
At geekbench a Lenovo notebook embedded with Ryzen 7 4800U 8-core/16-thread processor has been spotted. That's renoir based on ZEN2 cores....
AMD Renoir Ryzen 7 4800U Gets Geekbenched
In the screencap, it states 4700U.
Are we sure its 4800U and not 4700U ?
edit : Also, the memory bandwidth makes it look very likely that it was in Single channel mode, with only one Memory stick. (~20GB/s)
Single channel DDR4-2400/2666
At geekbench a Lenovo notebook embedded with Ryzen 7 4800U 8-core/16-thread processor has been spotted. That's renoir based on ZEN2 cores....
AMD Renoir Ryzen 7 4800U Gets Geekbenched
In the screencap, it states 4700U.
Are we sure its 4800U and not 4700U ?
edit : Also, the memory bandwidth makes it look very likely that it was in Single channel mode, with only one Memory stick. (~20GB/s)
Single channel DDR4-2400/2666
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#5752788 Posted on: 01/21/2020 02:18 PM
They only tested 3DMark Timespy which isn't the best case scenario for the 4700u. Also not sure why you would assume Intel has bad drivers?
Toss3, as you said, in a very limited TDP as 15W for both CPU and GPU, 30% above an already good performance GPU on the Intel, is massive. Intel had bad drivers, AMD and nvidia have excellent drivers, so games should run at a i7 + MX250 level but at 40% of the TDP and less size.
They only tested 3DMark Timespy which isn't the best case scenario for the 4700u. Also not sure why you would assume Intel has bad drivers?
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#5752816 Posted on: 01/21/2020 03:36 PM
Now if only they'd stop using the next gen model number range for current gen APUs.
Now if only they'd stop using the next gen model number range for current gen APUs.
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#5752912 Posted on: 01/21/2020 06:45 PM
AMD and nvidia drivers are very frequently optimised for released games, not to mention those who are optimised for AMD/ nvidia; also AMD GPU are the base from the present and future PS/XBOX which means developers know the hardware. Intel just happens to be a CPU maker who has a generic GPU which happens to be rather ok on the 10th (!!!) Gen CPU and only on the G4/G7 versions. Everything else (G1, UHD, HD ...) are just crap, as a lot of games just don't recognize the GPU as a supported one.
So, until Intel GPUs can compete for more generations at least with crappiest AMD/ nvidia chips and get developers to optimize for their hardware, they will be always the 3rd and last option. And worse: the G4 GPU version should be standard but somehow Intel figured that the 14nm "10th gen" and most 10nm should have G1/UHD graphics, so perhaps 95% of their 10th gen chips won't have decent GPU. Will a developer optimize games for ... 5% of Intel sold chips? Which accounts perhaps for 0.01% of all GPUs in 2020-2021?
They only tested 3DMark Timespy which isn't the best case scenario for the 4700u. Also not sure why you would assume Intel has bad drivers?
AMD and nvidia drivers are very frequently optimised for released games, not to mention those who are optimised for AMD/ nvidia; also AMD GPU are the base from the present and future PS/XBOX which means developers know the hardware. Intel just happens to be a CPU maker who has a generic GPU which happens to be rather ok on the 10th (!!!) Gen CPU and only on the G4/G7 versions. Everything else (G1, UHD, HD ...) are just crap, as a lot of games just don't recognize the GPU as a supported one.
So, until Intel GPUs can compete for more generations at least with crappiest AMD/ nvidia chips and get developers to optimize for their hardware, they will be always the 3rd and last option. And worse: the G4 GPU version should be standard but somehow Intel figured that the 14nm "10th gen" and most 10nm should have G1/UHD graphics, so perhaps 95% of their 10th gen chips won't have decent GPU. Will a developer optimize games for ... 5% of Intel sold chips? Which accounts perhaps for 0.01% of all GPUs in 2020-2021?
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#5752934 Posted on: 01/21/2020 07:51 PM
You do realise that we're talking about 28-30% GPU difference in a 15W TDP for one thing, on a APU which offers TWICE the amount of CPU cores (8 cores and 16 threads in 15W TDP, vs Intel's 4 cores and 8 threads).
Honestly, this is a huge win for AMD.
And the fact that its using Vega iGP with improved core performance (and LESS cores than previous APU's says a lot).
Only 28% difference on Graphics scale? Damn Intel caught up nicely on GPU performance.
You do realise that we're talking about 28-30% GPU difference in a 15W TDP for one thing, on a APU which offers TWICE the amount of CPU cores (8 cores and 16 threads in 15W TDP, vs Intel's 4 cores and 8 threads).
Honestly, this is a huge win for AMD.
And the fact that its using Vega iGP with improved core performance (and LESS cores than previous APU's says a lot).
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#5752936 Posted on: 01/21/2020 07:53 PM
Yes, I was a bit disappointed with that myself, however, those Vega iGP's did receive pretty much a similar treatment in various engines, etc. as Navi did.
Plus those Vega cores are MUCH faster than the previous generation (while at the same time, these new APU's have less CU's).
Zen 3 however should be using Navi for iGP in APU's... I'm just not sure which Navi (RDNA 1 or RDNA 2).
Now if only they'd stop using the next gen model number range for current gen APUs.
Yes, I was a bit disappointed with that myself, however, those Vega iGP's did receive pretty much a similar treatment in various engines, etc. as Navi did.
Plus those Vega cores are MUCH faster than the previous generation (while at the same time, these new APU's have less CU's).
Zen 3 however should be using Navi for iGP in APU's... I'm just not sure which Navi (RDNA 1 or RDNA 2).
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#5752939 Posted on: 01/21/2020 08:00 PM
In the screencap, it states 4700U.
Are we sure its 4800U and not 4700U ?
edit : Also, the memory bandwidth makes it look very likely that it was in Single channel mode, with only one Memory stick. (~20GB/s)
Single channel DDR4-2400/2666
Good catch.
I noticed the Geekbench screen saying 4700U too.
So, either Geekbench is reading the APU wrong, or this article made a mistake - its possible the article made a mistake indeed - but we'll need to see.
In the screencap, it states 4700U.
Are we sure its 4800U and not 4700U ?
edit : Also, the memory bandwidth makes it look very likely that it was in Single channel mode, with only one Memory stick. (~20GB/s)
Single channel DDR4-2400/2666
Good catch.
I noticed the Geekbench screen saying 4700U too.
So, either Geekbench is reading the APU wrong, or this article made a mistake - its possible the article made a mistake indeed - but we'll need to see.
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#5753027 Posted on: 01/22/2020 12:37 AM
Tomshardware is also posting the same results and using 4700U... so I think this article is wrong (that is, if Geekbench is reporting the correct APU).
I suggest a wait and see approach to determine whether this is indeed the 4700U APU. If it is, then the multithreaded score would need to be much higher (and single threaded too would be at least same or slightly higher).
Tomshardware is also posting the same results and using 4700U... so I think this article is wrong (that is, if Geekbench is reporting the correct APU).
I suggest a wait and see approach to determine whether this is indeed the 4700U APU. If it is, then the multithreaded score would need to be much higher (and single threaded too would be at least same or slightly higher).
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Only 28% difference on Graphics scale? Damn Intel caught up nicely on GPU performance.