AMD Radeon RX 590 Spotted in 3DMark Time Spy?

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 10/15/2018 03:35 PM | source: TUM_APISAK | 37 comment(s)

Man, what are the odds of that, an Alleged AMD Radeon RX 590 has surfaced in the 3DMark results browser 24 hours prior to an NVIDIA RTX 2070 Embargo? The 12nm Polaris is gossipped to be released soon and is the same Polaris, yet fabbed on a smaller 12nm node and thus it'll get some extra frequency on the clocks.

The leaked result set that surfaced online shows that RX 590 would be clocked at 1545 MHz clock, and that is higher than the RX 580 boost clock. Then again, we do not know if the results set is taken from an overclocked product. The memory clock of 2000 MHz seems reference based. Recently some documents have leaked onto the web, mentioning the RX 590 as product name, so, for now, we'll assume that is correct. The score, however, well .. I hope it's going to be better as it is quite close to the RX 580.

Spotted by TUM_APISAK on Twitter:

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Fediuld
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#5596412 Posted on: 10/15/2018 03:47 PM

hmm.
Lets put some perspective here this RX590 can do graphics score 4759 (oops put the CPU score before lol) possibly stock speed
A well tuned (downvolted) Vega 64 can do graphics score 8342, and out of the box the Vega 64 Nitro does graphics score 7536.
In the mean time a GTX1080 @ 2190 does 8349 and out of the box graphics score 7834. (GTX1080 Armor).

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#5596421 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:01 PM

hmm.
Lets put some perspective here this RX590 can do graphics score 7402 possibly stock speed
A well tuned (downvolted) Vega 64 can do graphics score 8342, and out of the box the Vega 64 Nitro does graphics score 7536.
In the mean time a GTX1080 @ 2190 does 8349 and out of the box graphics score 7834. (GTX1080 Armor).

Isnt the graphics score 4759?

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#5596427 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:11 PM

In the mean time a GTX1080 @ 2190 does 8349 and out of the box graphics score 7834. (GTX1080 Armor).

2190 on a 1080? That can't be on stock cooling. Mine reached its stability limits at 2170 when i had a hybrid AC cooler on it. There must be more to this story. Custom cooled perhaps?

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#5596428 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:12 PM

i seriously doubt this particular "leak".
12nm Polaris is coming (like winter), but i'm hoping for upgraded components as well as the shrunken die.

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#5596429 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:12 PM

Isnt the graphics score 4759?

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#5596432 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:19 PM

Bad. 2000MHz on memory. That means it is not GDDR6 as that would be at most 1800MHz. And it is not GDDR5X either for similar reason.

This means clock boost here is not actually bringing much extra over ~1400 MHz RX-580. Unless they improved IMC.
nVidia's IMC for GDDR5 does better than AMD's. So there is space for improvement.

So it is noce that it can do 1550MHz, but it will be about users tweaking their memory.

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#5596433 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:20 PM

Yeah, it looks like the CPU score was 7402...

I wonder if these "new" cards / SKU are actually RX 580's with a better cooler / power delivery and a new BIOS for OC? AMD and Nvidia both overproduced GPUs during the crypto boom between 2017 and the first half of this year. Nvidia decided to price new cards higher to keep selling the old ones, maybe AMD is trying to get rid of these chips with slightly tweaked new model to drive some interest.

AMD didn't overproduce like Nvidia. the non-mining cards hit the market as they should have in the first place.
the "new" cards are a refresh gpu built at 12nm, which by itself will improve clocks and power - so they'll outperform rx580/570.
the RX680 will be a hit.
the so-called RX 590 is either a fake or a repackaged RX 580 for a specific market.

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#5596436 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:27 PM

Wouldn't that make it the 2nd refresh for the RX480 or is there any indication that it will be 12nm?

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#5596442 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:45 PM

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#5596454 Posted on: 10/15/2018 04:58 PM

Rebrandeon goes strong once again. LMAO. Since 290X we are talking about the same performance in this segment (then 390X=480=580=590). And now fury was the same with vega. Are they really innovating? Trolladeon FTW. I can't believe these guys.

I can see why those with money always buy nvidia. It is clear now. No excuses for poor rebellion. Not anymore.

yikes dude.
fanboy much? i have two 10xx Nvidia cards, so i'm not a hater. i also have an RX580 in my office as that is all it needs there.
1) R290x was a completely different architecture than RX 480
2) R290x was a higher end card than the RX 480...and is still usable today at 1080p
3) your opinions are o.k., but they are factually divorced from reality as far as GPU's are concerned.

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#5596456 Posted on: 10/15/2018 05:01 PM

Wouldn't that make it the 2nd refresh for the RX480 or is there any indication that it will be 12nm?

yes it would be both a refresh and a process shrink. in many ways ideal as it's proven architecture on a proven node, and just using the smaller node lowers cost (more dies per wafer), improves power efficiency, and increases the clock speed. win, win , win.
perfect for the aspiring gamer on a budget or for a console killer

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#5596458 Posted on: 10/15/2018 05:03 PM

yikes dude.
fanboy much? i have two 10xx Nvidia cards, so i'm not a hater. i also have an RX580 in my office as that is all it needs there.
1) R290x was a completely different architecture than RX 480
2) R290x was a higher end card than the RX 480...and is still usable today at 1080p
3) your opinions are o.k., but they are factually divorced from reality as far as GPU's are concerned.

I respect your disagreement. But we are supposed to get a meaningful performance jump here and there. Tell me these last years, when AMD provided that? I see only clock differences, memory changes and driver improvements. Nothing more. GPUs aforementioned are the same clock per clock.

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#5596459 Posted on: 10/15/2018 05:03 PM

and yes 12nm is confirmed and it's in production atm. idk about final pricing or how large they'll build the pre-release inventory.
i just know the first shipments to AIB's is due shortly.

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#5596463 Posted on: 10/15/2018 05:10 PM

the RX480 came into market for far less money than the R290x.
the fact that a less expensive card delivered similar clocks is usually called an improvement.

furthermore, as AMD has sold out production for the last 5 years they are doing fine and are delivering products that people want. just not you and you should be fine with that.

and really, imho you have no idea what's actually going on. i have well informed ideas, hunches, and a few guesses based on my experience in the industry, knowledge of engineers, industrial level electronics and being native to Silicon Valley but i don't really know for any ironclad facts.

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#5596474 Posted on: 10/15/2018 05:26 PM

perfect for the aspiring gamer on a budget or for a console gamer

Fixed.

After all, it's got to be a clear case of introducing the same basic design to two different markets.

Now that's win, win. You couldn't make it up.

p.s.

If it is a 590, then going on convention it would have to be a dual GPU card, which would suggest crossfire being disabled/inactive for those tests.

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