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AMD-ceo: Zen-processors available at the end of 2016
Despite rumors that it would be 2017, Lisa Su, ceo of AMD during a financial conference call shared that Zen based processors indeed will become available on the market closer to the end of 2016. The Zen architecture based Summit Ridge processors should be competitive against Intel's processors she said.
Lisa Su is talking right now with PC builders (OEM) about releasing Zen based products. With Zen AMD also hopes to get a reach in data-centers, servers based on Zen processors would be available in 2017. According to Su, Zen based processors would offer a performance improvement of 40% per clock for clock cycle compared to the Excavator generation.
The Zen architecture will be built on a more efficient 14 nanometer FinFET process, rather than the 32 nm and 28 nm processes of previous AMD FX CPUs and AMD APUs, respectively.
The "Summit Ridge" Zen family will feature a unified AM4 socket with its GPU-equipped "Bristol Ridge" APU counterparts, and feature DDR4 support and a 95W TDP. While newer roadmaps don't confirm the TDP for desktop products, they suggest a range for low-power mobile products with up to two Zen cores from 5 to 15W and 15 to 35W for performance-oriented mobile products with up to four Zen cores.
Each Zen core will have four integer units, two address generation units and four floating point units, and the decoder can decode four instructions per clock cycle. L1 data cache size is 32 KiB and L2 cache size 512 KiB per core. Two of the floating point units are adders, two are multipliers.
Earlier on AMD already satted that they would release Zen at the end of 2016. So the good news is that we'll see the new 14nm processors this year.
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#5221010 Posted on: 01/20/2016 02:40 PM
They can't come soon enough!
They can't come soon enough!
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#5221021 Posted on: 01/20/2016 02:50 PM
Mostly because all the money they made from their early 2000's success went directly into ATi, a company they bought for $5.4B that was worth like a quarter of that a year later. They even admitted a year later that $3.2B of that was just for the brand. It was an absolutely terrible purchase.
Anyway hopefully they can kick it back into gear this year. It seems like they have a running head start in the graphics division with Polaris and they are hyping Zen -- plus it was engineered by Jim Keller who has a track record for good stuff.
Not sure what is going on, but AMD is going under if they keep this up. How can a company that a few years ago was besting Intel be so far behind now and constantly have delay after delay? One would think they would rush the product to market even if it only makes it in small numbers, just to keep Intel from gobbling up the market-share and let people know what they can expect and in a best-case scenario have them wait instead of going with Intel. The current FX processors are a joke and Intel can basically price their CPUs as they want (which they apparently do considering the 4790k is still 400€+).
Mostly because all the money they made from their early 2000's success went directly into ATi, a company they bought for $5.4B that was worth like a quarter of that a year later. They even admitted a year later that $3.2B of that was just for the brand. It was an absolutely terrible purchase.
Anyway hopefully they can kick it back into gear this year. It seems like they have a running head start in the graphics division with Polaris and they are hyping Zen -- plus it was engineered by Jim Keller who has a track record for good stuff.
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#5221024 Posted on: 01/20/2016 02:52 PM
Wouldn't say the FX cpu's are a joke. They don't bench as high as the i7 or i5, but really people that have them are more than satisfied.
AMD is really in the same boat it's always been in, Intel has the OEM market. The difference now however, is Intel has cpus at every price point that are very efficient whereas before Intel just had them on pricing.
Not sure what is going on, but AMD is going under if they keep this up. How can a company that a few years ago was besting Intel be so far behind now and constantly have delay after delay? One would think they would rush the product to market even if it only makes it in small numbers, just to keep Intel from gobbling up the market-share and let people know what they can expect and in a best-case scenario have them wait instead of going with Intel. The current FX processors are a joke and Intel can basically price their CPUs as they want (which they apparently do considering the 4790k is still 400€+).
Wouldn't say the FX cpu's are a joke. They don't bench as high as the i7 or i5, but really people that have them are more than satisfied.
AMD is really in the same boat it's always been in, Intel has the OEM market. The difference now however, is Intel has cpus at every price point that are very efficient whereas before Intel just had them on pricing.
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#5221036 Posted on: 01/20/2016 03:15 PM
God damn it AMD, you need to launch the CPUs sooner, not at the end of 2016 , I hope with that delay the damn Zen performs better than Skylyke but I doubt it.
I hope that Polaris will be good enough to destroy Pascal this time, AMD needs to return at laptop world fast.
God damn it AMD, you need to launch the CPUs sooner, not at the end of 2016 , I hope with that delay the damn Zen performs better than Skylyke but I doubt it.
I hope that Polaris will be good enough to destroy Pascal this time, AMD needs to return at laptop world fast.
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#5221041 Posted on: 01/20/2016 03:25 PM
A delay? It was always this time frame, God when people type out of their behind
Not sure what is going on, but AMD is going under if they keep this up. How can a company that a few years ago was besting Intel be so far behind now and constantly have delay after delay? One would think they would rush the product to market even if it only makes it in small numbers, just to keep Intel from gobbling up the market-share and let people know what they can expect and in a best-case scenario have them wait instead of going with Intel. The current FX processors are a joke and Intel can basically price their CPUs as they want (which they apparently do considering the 4790k is still 400€+).
A delay? It was always this time frame, God when people type out of their behind
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#5221047 Posted on: 01/20/2016 03:32 PM
Zen Fx the equaliser
I hope AMD Zen can match the performance that of Intel Haswell. It would be amazing their submit ridge 8 core Zen matches performance that of $1000 8 core 5960x at a competitive price. Hope AMD succeeds with their next gen CPU for the sake of consumers .
Zen Fx the equaliser
I hope AMD Zen can match the performance that of Intel Haswell. It would be amazing their submit ridge 8 core Zen matches performance that of $1000 8 core 5960x at a competitive price. Hope AMD succeeds with their next gen CPU for the sake of consumers .
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#5221049 Posted on: 01/20/2016 03:34 PM
with what products and at what time did they best Intel a few years ago?
Not sure what is going on, but AMD is going under if they keep this up. How can a company that a few years ago was besting Intel be so far behind now and constantly have delay after delay? One would think they would rush the product to market even if it only makes it in small numbers, just to keep Intel from gobbling up the market-share and let people know what they can expect and in a best-case scenario have them wait instead of going with Intel. The current FX processors are a joke and Intel can basically price their CPUs as they want (which they apparently do considering the 4790k is still 400€+).
with what products and at what time did they best Intel a few years ago?
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#5221062 Posted on: 01/20/2016 04:01 PM
Because despite this, people went for Intel anyway.
The only time Intel really was a truly serious threat to AMD was when they released Sandy Bridge. At that point, the only thing AMD had going for them was price:performance. But, people go for Intel because it's a familiar name. Intel has always had financial leverage. AMD entered the x86 market simply because IBM wanted a competitor to Intel; they otherwise weren't really that prepared.
How can a company that a few years ago was besting Intel be so far behind now and constantly have delay after delay?
Because despite this, people went for Intel anyway.
The only time Intel really was a truly serious threat to AMD was when they released Sandy Bridge. At that point, the only thing AMD had going for them was price:performance. But, people go for Intel because it's a familiar name. Intel has always had financial leverage. AMD entered the x86 market simply because IBM wanted a competitor to Intel; they otherwise weren't really that prepared.
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#5221063 Posted on: 01/20/2016 04:03 PM
More than a few years ago. Before the core2 architecture.
with what products and at what time did they best Intel a few years ago?
More than a few years ago. Before the core2 architecture.
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#5221064 Posted on: 01/20/2016 04:03 PM
A user with an Intel says that amd cpu are joke.
Have you use an fx8350 for example?
I bet you never touch it.
So you cant even speak about it.
An fx cpu play does what your Intel does. If i replace your intel with an amd and i wont tell you that you will never see the diferences between them.
Not sure what is going on, but AMD is going under if they keep this up. How can a company that a few years ago was besting Intel be so far behind now and constantly have delay after delay? One would think they would rush the product to market even if it only makes it in small numbers, just to keep Intel from gobbling up the market-share and let people know what they can expect and in a best-case scenario have them wait instead of going with Intel. The current FX processors are a joke and Intel can basically price their CPUs as they want (which they apparently do considering the 4790k is still 400€+).
A user with an Intel says that amd cpu are joke.
Have you use an fx8350 for example?
I bet you never touch it.
So you cant even speak about it.
An fx cpu play does what your Intel does. If i replace your intel with an amd and i wont tell you that you will never see the diferences between them.
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#5221069 Posted on: 01/20/2016 04:19 PM
A user with an Intel says that amd cpu are joke.
Have you use an fx8350 for example?
I bet you never touch it.
So you cant even speak about it.
An fx cpu play does what your Intel does. If i replace your intel with an amd and i wont tell you that you will never see the diferences between them.
Have you compared the FX8350 to any recent Intel CPUs? Please return here when you do and explain to me why the fx8350 is worth anything. Hell even an i3 almost outperforms it. The similarly priced i5 6400 is just a much much better buy with half the TDP. I am eagerly waiting for the Zen (especially the AIO), but for the last four years or so AMD has been at a standstill while Intel has kept on going and arguing anything else is just waste of time.
A user with an Intel says that amd cpu are joke.
Have you use an fx8350 for example?
I bet you never touch it.
So you cant even speak about it.
An fx cpu play does what your Intel does. If i replace your intel with an amd and i wont tell you that you will never see the diferences between them.
Have you compared the FX8350 to any recent Intel CPUs? Please return here when you do and explain to me why the fx8350 is worth anything. Hell even an i3 almost outperforms it. The similarly priced i5 6400 is just a much much better buy with half the TDP. I am eagerly waiting for the Zen (especially the AIO), but for the last four years or so AMD has been at a standstill while Intel has kept on going and arguing anything else is just waste of time.
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#5221070 Posted on: 01/20/2016 04:23 PM
Athlon 64? That was back in 2006 so ten years ago (doesn't feel that long).
with what products and at what time did they best Intel a few years ago?
Athlon 64? That was back in 2006 so ten years ago (doesn't feel that long).
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#5221071 Posted on: 01/20/2016 04:26 PM
Well, when you cherry-pick results, the FX8350 can outperform some i7s too, so your point is irrelevant. Since Guru3D is largely focused on gaming, just about any AMD processor is definitely good enough, as long as you don't have anything fancy like a 144Hz or 4k monitor. But, if you're buying AMD, you're probably on a budget and wouldn't have such things anyway.
As for being at a standstill, if anyone that'd be Intel. Intel hasn't released a noteworthy laptop or desktop product since the release of Sandy Bridge. Each release after that has been very incremental. AMD still hasn't made something that readily outperforms Sandy Bridge, but they have made significant improvements every generation.
Have you compared the FX8350 to any recent Intel CPUs? Please return here when you do and explain to me why the fx8350 is worth anything. Hell even an i3 almost outperforms it. The similarly priced i5 6400 is just a much much better buy with half the TDP. I am eagerly waiting for the Zen (especially the AIO), but for the last four years or so AMD has been at a standstill while Intel has kept on going and arguing anything else is just waste of time.
Well, when you cherry-pick results, the FX8350 can outperform some i7s too, so your point is irrelevant. Since Guru3D is largely focused on gaming, just about any AMD processor is definitely good enough, as long as you don't have anything fancy like a 144Hz or 4k monitor. But, if you're buying AMD, you're probably on a budget and wouldn't have such things anyway.
As for being at a standstill, if anyone that'd be Intel. Intel hasn't released a noteworthy laptop or desktop product since the release of Sandy Bridge. Each release after that has been very incremental. AMD still hasn't made something that readily outperforms Sandy Bridge, but they have made significant improvements every generation.
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#5221073 Posted on: 01/20/2016 04:30 PM
The Zen was supposed to be available in 2016 alright, but not at the END.
All I want for AMD to get back into the ring and give Intel a big 
in terms of performance per $.
A delay? It was always this time frame, God when people type out of their behind
The Zen was supposed to be available in 2016 alright, but not at the END.
All I want for AMD to get back into the ring and give Intel a big in terms of performance per $.
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Not sure what is going on, but AMD is going under if they keep this up. How can a company that a few years ago was besting Intel be so far behind now and constantly have delay after delay? One would think they would rush the product to market even if it only makes it in small numbers, just to keep Intel from gobbling up the market-share and let people know what they can expect and in a best-case scenario have them wait instead of going with Intel. The current FX processors are a joke and Intel can basically price their CPUs as they want (which they apparently do considering the 4790k is still 400€+).