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AMD Announces Ryzen 4000 Mobile Processors: 4800U and 4800H
AMD will release new laptop processors, they are ZEN2 based 7nm power-efficient processors. 3rd generation U, H Ryzen series 4000 mobile processors offers up-to 8 cores and 16 threads with an up-to 4.2 GHz boost.
The flagship processor is the Ryzen 7 4800U The Ryzen 7 4800U features eight Zen 2 cores, 16 threads, up to 4.2GHz boost, up to 1.8GHz base, eight Radeon cores and 15W TDP. Graphics will be 28% better than Intel's Core i7, Su said, 90% better on multi-thread performance and 4% higher on single-thread performance. A recent leak of the Ryzen 7 4800H showed performance nearing the level of the Intel i9-9980HK.
Two mobile CPUs have been mentioned so far. First is the Ryzen 7 4800U. It will have eight cores and 16 threads, with a peak boost frequency of 4.2GHz, eight Radeon cores and a TDP of 15W. The second a Ryzen 7 4800H, with a better base frequency at 2.9GHz, 1,000MHz higher than the Ryzen 7 4800U.
"In 2020, we will be introducing the best laptop processor ever built," Dr Lisa Su, AMD CEO, said during the press conference. The processors will use AMD's 7nm technology.
Update: there will be a full spread of CPUs:
| Cores / Threads | Clock speed | Max boost | Compute units | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryzen 7 4800H | 8/16 | 2.9 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 8 |
| Ryzen 5 4600H | 6/12 | 3.0 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 6 |
| Ryzen 7 4800U | 8/16 | 1.8 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 8 |
| Ryzen 7 4700 U | 8/8 | 2.0 GHz | 4.1 GHz | 7 |
| Ryzen 5 4600 U | 6/12 | 2.1 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 6 |
| Ryzen 5 4500U | 6/6 | 2.3 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 6 |
| Ryzen 3 4300U | 4/4 | 2.7 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 5 |
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#5748386 Posted on: 01/07/2020 12:26 AM
Ok how does smart shift actually work? I understand that you get a performance boost but it's not clear how you use the dGPU?
Ok how does smart shift actually work? I understand that you get a performance boost but it's not clear how you use the dGPU?
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#5748472 Posted on: 01/07/2020 07:14 AM
15W is not good TDP, is too much for small fanless machine and not enough for workstation where are 35W/45W mosters and fan. Make it 5W, 8W and it would be fine. For something better there are still Intel + Nvidia combos.. a bit doubt how AMD + Nvidia combo will work, there is lot and infamous history of Nvidia Optimus switching and AMD would need something similar.
15W is not good TDP, is too much for small fanless machine and not enough for workstation where are 35W/45W mosters and fan. Make it 5W, 8W and it would be fine. For something better there are still Intel + Nvidia combos.. a bit doubt how AMD + Nvidia combo will work, there is lot and infamous history of Nvidia Optimus switching and AMD would need something similar.
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#5748475 Posted on: 01/07/2020 07:25 AM
You want a laggy slow system? Go for it. We are talking about performance package. Intel+Nvidia is no match for ryzen babes as one package. Never were. I prefer great 15 watts instead of 5 snails.
15W is not good TDP, is too much for small fanless machine and not enough for workstation where are 35W/45W mosters and fan. Make it 5W, 8W and it would be fine. For something better there are still Intel + Nvidia combos.. a bit doubt how AMD + Nvidia combo will work, there is lot and infamous history of Nvidia Optimus switching and AMD would need something similar.
You want a laggy slow system? Go for it. We are talking about performance package. Intel+Nvidia is no match for ryzen babes as one package. Never were. I prefer great 15 watts instead of 5 snails.
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#5748477 Posted on: 01/07/2020 07:54 AM
Get one of those ryzen apu's in a 2-in-1 thin form factor laptop that flips to a touchscreen style device and just take over the market at this rate. Will upgrade my laptop to one of those for certain.
Get one of those ryzen apu's in a 2-in-1 thin form factor laptop that flips to a touchscreen style device and just take over the market at this rate. Will upgrade my laptop to one of those for certain.
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#5748522 Posted on: 01/07/2020 10:20 AM
Nvidia doesn't make x86-64 CPUs itself, so why would it matter if it's Intel or AMD CPU inside? Nvidia's enemy is a laptop with an AMD GPU, not a laptop with an AMD CPU. Cheap laptops don't have a dedicated GPU, no matter if the CPU (with an iGPU) is from Intel or AMD. In more distant future Nvidia's enemy could be, naturally, iGPUs getting so powerful there's no need for a dedicated GPU. But that threat, again, comes from both AMD and Intel, now that Intel is seemingly more interested in GPUs as well. However, that day is not today.
15W is not good TDP, is too much for small fanless machine and not enough for workstation where are 35W/45W mosters and fan. Make it 5W, 8W and it would be fine. For something better there are still Intel + Nvidia combos.. a bit doubt how AMD + Nvidia combo will work, there is lot and infamous history of Nvidia Optimus switching and AMD would need something similar.
Nvidia doesn't make x86-64 CPUs itself, so why would it matter if it's Intel or AMD CPU inside? Nvidia's enemy is a laptop with an AMD GPU, not a laptop with an AMD CPU. Cheap laptops don't have a dedicated GPU, no matter if the CPU (with an iGPU) is from Intel or AMD. In more distant future Nvidia's enemy could be, naturally, iGPUs getting so powerful there's no need for a dedicated GPU. But that threat, again, comes from both AMD and Intel, now that Intel is seemingly more interested in GPUs as well. However, that day is not today.
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#5748527 Posted on: 01/07/2020 10:57 AM
In a laptop you are primarily power/heat constrained, so presumably what it does is use heat/power headroom that eg. the CPU currently doesn't use to OC the GPU (and with OC that probably just means running at higher boost clocks), and vice-versa.
This works in a laptop because everything is so tightly integrated, and most of the time all components share one heatsink, so they also share thermals.
In an actual desktop PC, cooling and power delivery of dGPU and CPU are so far away from each other, this tech wouldn't work.
It sounds like a fancy way to call thermal-based performance scaling that other vendors also already employ.
Ok how does smart shift actually work? I understand that you get a performance boost but it's not clear how you use the dGPU?
In a laptop you are primarily power/heat constrained, so presumably what it does is use heat/power headroom that eg. the CPU currently doesn't use to OC the GPU (and with OC that probably just means running at higher boost clocks), and vice-versa.
This works in a laptop because everything is so tightly integrated, and most of the time all components share one heatsink, so they also share thermals.
In an actual desktop PC, cooling and power delivery of dGPU and CPU are so far away from each other, this tech wouldn't work.
It sounds like a fancy way to call thermal-based performance scaling that other vendors also already employ.
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#5748562 Posted on: 01/07/2020 12:52 PM
A 4600/4500 on a 14 laptop would be something interesting for me. Even the 4300 looks interesting. Good to see AMD take the fight into the mobile market.
A 4600/4500 on a 14 laptop would be something interesting for me. Even the 4300 looks interesting. Good to see AMD take the fight into the mobile market.
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#5748568 Posted on: 01/07/2020 01:03 PM
Let's see what Thinkpads will emerge from this. Keen to upgrade my old Thinkpads
Let's see what Thinkpads will emerge from this. Keen to upgrade my old Thinkpads
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#5748626 Posted on: 01/07/2020 04:15 PM
It'll probably be worse than Intel in both idle and non-idle battery times, but at least now it'll be up there in performance!
Hopefully the next version attacks the power part, especially the idle power usage part.
It'll probably be worse than Intel in both idle and non-idle battery times, but at least now it'll be up there in performance!
Hopefully the next version attacks the power part, especially the idle power usage part.
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#5748627 Posted on: 01/07/2020 04:21 PM
i'll get the bunting out
i'll get the bunting out
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#5748641 Posted on: 01/07/2020 04:58 PM
It'll probably be worse than Intel in both idle and non-idle battery times, but at least now it'll be up there in performance!
Hopefully the next version attacks the power part, especially the idle power usage part.
Yeah - the performance looks good but until I see actually battery benchmarks it pretty much means nothing. The Ryzen based Surface is god awful despite technically being the TDP being the same. When TDP can literally mean anything it's hard to gauge how good these are with just those numbers.
It'll probably be worse than Intel in both idle and non-idle battery times, but at least now it'll be up there in performance!
Hopefully the next version attacks the power part, especially the idle power usage part.
Yeah - the performance looks good but until I see actually battery benchmarks it pretty much means nothing. The Ryzen based Surface is god awful despite technically being the TDP being the same. When TDP can literally mean anything it's hard to gauge how good these are with just those numbers.
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#5749104 Posted on: 01/09/2020 05:00 AM
Probably most exciting announcement at CES IMO. Intel has had almost no competition in the laptop market but this will mean AMD will take the performance crown. Ice Lake was disappointing and Intel can't really answer this at all.
Probably most exciting announcement at CES IMO. Intel has had almost no competition in the laptop market but this will mean AMD will take the performance crown. Ice Lake was disappointing and Intel can't really answer this at all.
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#5752479 Posted on: 01/20/2020 06:18 PM
With 5-8 W TDP, you can produce fanless device, with 15W TDP you produce small but noisy device, which is still not good enough.. BTW GPD tried to make their new GPD Win 2 Max with AMD APUs, but there was so many problems with this unmatured platform that they after half a year switched back to expensive intel now finally with Intel Iris GPU which is only quite good for years.
You want a laggy slow system? Go for it. We are talking about performance package. Intel+Nvidia is no match for ryzen babes as one package. Never were. I prefer great 15 watts instead of 5 snails.
With 5-8 W TDP, you can produce fanless device, with 15W TDP you produce small but noisy device, which is still not good enough.. BTW GPD tried to make their new GPD Win 2 Max with AMD APUs, but there was so many problems with this unmatured platform that they after half a year switched back to expensive intel now finally with Intel Iris GPU which is only quite good for years.
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I have never been a fan of laptops, i barely use them from time to time , i have one at work that i barely touch.... now i want one