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75 percent of Windows Phone Owners Migrate to Android or iOS
The drop-off rate of end-users with a Windows Phone migrating towards Android or iOS is rather ginormous. Whenever users get a chance to upgrade, they move on-wards. Only 20% stays loyal to Windows Phone, 60 percent moved to Android, 15 percent moves to iOS.
These numbers come from Ericsson in their Mobility Report, and yeah .. are pretty darn significant.
Androiod users are the most loyal as 82% stay on that platform after their purchase. For iOS that is 73%. According to the report a new Windows Phone model is only suitable for 20%. Where the last 5% stays is not clear in the rapport. The rapport also mentions that high-end smarphone users are much more loyal to their OS opposed to a low-end model.
Ericsson uses anonymous data it gathers from more than a hundred networks worldwide.
Check that report right here.
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#5191101 Posted on: 11/18/2015 10:35 AM
Misleading. They haven't made a flagship phone since the Lumia 1020. Of course everyone's going to switch to another OS.
And to the other user saying it's restrictive, it's just as bad as iOS. The only difference is that iOS has a richer store.
Misleading. They haven't made a flagship phone since the Lumia 1020. Of course everyone's going to switch to another OS.
And to the other user saying it's restrictive, it's just as bad as iOS. The only difference is that iOS has a richer store.
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#5191118 Posted on: 11/18/2015 11:03 AM
I am myself on a second Windows Phone - Lumia 930. Previously I used Symbian, no iOS or Android... and nothing will prompt me to switch to Android or, god forbid, iOS. I am only afraid to thnk of full Windows phone demise, but I hope it won't happen.
Also, for some reason IT department colleagues in our company also switch to Windows phone. In the last 1.5 years 5 of my colleagues switched from Android to Windows... I know we are probably exceptions, but still nice to know.
Personally I am looking forward to Windows 10. Not entirely to the OS itself, but possibilities it brings to developers. Hope this kickstarts good app development (I mean quality-wise good apps. There's no lack of crappy apps on Windows store).
I am myself on a second Windows Phone - Lumia 930. Previously I used Symbian, no iOS or Android... and nothing will prompt me to switch to Android or, god forbid, iOS. I am only afraid to thnk of full Windows phone demise, but I hope it won't happen.
Also, for some reason IT department colleagues in our company also switch to Windows phone. In the last 1.5 years 5 of my colleagues switched from Android to Windows... I know we are probably exceptions, but still nice to know.
Personally I am looking forward to Windows 10. Not entirely to the OS itself, but possibilities it brings to developers. Hope this kickstarts good app development (I mean quality-wise good apps. There's no lack of crappy apps on Windows store).
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#5191120 Posted on: 11/18/2015 11:14 AM
My Mrs has a Nokia lumia. If you switch the phone off, the alarms don't work.
If you have an Office 365 subscription, it's not compatible, you would need Office business version. Pretty much the only reason why you might want a Windows mobile device and MS don't allow it. These people are insane.
More evidence of the extensive use of the crack pipe at MS is despite their poor performance in the mobile space, they continue the march with Win10 for a one size fits all OS while continuing to alienate their traditional core customers. So they're shifting to a market that they're getting destroyed in. Awesome stuff MS.
My Mrs has a Nokia lumia. If you switch the phone off, the alarms don't work.
If you have an Office 365 subscription, it's not compatible, you would need Office business version. Pretty much the only reason why you might want a Windows mobile device and MS don't allow it. These people are insane.
More evidence of the extensive use of the crack pipe at MS is despite their poor performance in the mobile space, they continue the march with Win10 for a one size fits all OS while continuing to alienate their traditional core customers. So they're shifting to a market that they're getting destroyed in. Awesome stuff MS.
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#5191121 Posted on: 11/18/2015 11:14 AM
I'll likely move back once Windows 10 mobile is up and running smoothly.
My Mrs has a Nokia lumia. If you switch the phone off, the alarms don't work.
It's actually rather rare that they work. I'm pretty sure they don't work in Z3 Compact. My Honor 6 now (at least since lollipop update) asks if I want to keep the alarm when I shut down the phone (and then it would boot automatically).
I'll likely move back once Windows 10 mobile is up and running smoothly.
My Mrs has a Nokia lumia. If you switch the phone off, the alarms don't work.
It's actually rather rare that they work. I'm pretty sure they don't work in Z3 Compact. My Honor 6 now (at least since lollipop update) asks if I want to keep the alarm when I shut down the phone (and then it would boot automatically).
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#5191123 Posted on: 11/18/2015 11:18 AM
M$ only chance is enterprise segment. They need to become the next blackberry but they need to do it properly and not like BB. They have everything in their hands now. Main and good OS for enterprises, good HW basis and they just need to push hard on simplifying App development for mobiles and perfecting their control&deployment through server OS.Let's see how that ends up.They have little to none chance with basic users
M$ only chance is enterprise segment. They need to become the next blackberry but they need to do it properly and not like BB. They have everything in their hands now. Main and good OS for enterprises, good HW basis and they just need to push hard on simplifying App development for mobiles and perfecting their control&deployment through server OS.Let's see how that ends up.They have little to none chance with basic users
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#5191127 Posted on: 11/18/2015 11:35 AM
i have tried iOS, it is too much "you are a sheep..."
then i switch to android the "big brother's OS" (why is it an offline game need to have access to your contact list and full data transfer ???).
then i switch to BlackOS (the blackphone's Android) it was better... but not enough.
then i switch to no smartphone and everything was solved lol
on other hand i have tested WP10 and despite looking like WP8 (which i hate a lot on nearly every point) and it is quite a good OS, way better than previously...
as it is quite new on market i think that most of the WP activated are 8... and so i found that is not too much lost then
as i would think that 99% of the user would have switched to other OS (1% are M$ employe shhhh i won't tell that you have iPhone for personal use).
M$ will have a long road to make people forget the W8/WP8 fail...
i have tried iOS, it is too much "you are a sheep..."
then i switch to android the "big brother's OS" (why is it an offline game need to have access to your contact list and full data transfer ???).
then i switch to BlackOS (the blackphone's Android) it was better... but not enough.
then i switch to no smartphone and everything was solved lol
on other hand i have tested WP10 and despite looking like WP8 (which i hate a lot on nearly every point) and it is quite a good OS, way better than previously...
as it is quite new on market i think that most of the WP activated are 8... and so i found that is not too much lost then
as i would think that 99% of the user would have switched to other OS (1% are M$ employe shhhh i won't tell that you have iPhone for personal use).
M$ will have a long road to make people forget the W8/WP8 fail...
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#5191129 Posted on: 11/18/2015 11:39 AM
Misleading. They haven't made a flagship phone since the Lumia 1020. Of course everyone's going to switch to another OS.
And to the other user saying it's restrictive, it's just as bad as iOS. The only difference is that iOS has a richer store.
the flagship will be released soon check the WP portail (after a long long waiting, it was not so easy to switch from Nokia to own brand...)
Misleading. They haven't made a flagship phone since the Lumia 1020. Of course everyone's going to switch to another OS.
And to the other user saying it's restrictive, it's just as bad as iOS. The only difference is that iOS has a richer store.
the flagship will be released soon check the WP portail (after a long long waiting, it was not so easy to switch from Nokia to own brand...)
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#5191130 Posted on: 11/18/2015 11:40 AM
If you really think so, you are just mistaken.
... or you make a pretty strange choices based on a single criteria.
Pretty much the only reason why you might want a Windows mobile device and MS don't allow it.
If you really think so, you are just mistaken.
... or you make a pretty strange choices based on a single criteria.
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#5191183 Posted on: 11/18/2015 01:16 PM
It was the lack of apps that made me switch to an iPhone when my contract was up. I really liked it but it didn't really have what I wanted like banking apps and what not.
It was the lack of apps that made me switch to an iPhone when my contract was up. I really liked it but it didn't really have what I wanted like banking apps and what not.
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#5191192 Posted on: 11/18/2015 01:27 PM
If you really think so, you are just mistaken.
... or you make a pretty strange choices based on a single criteria.
Dude, we get it. You don't hate Windows Phones.
Do YOU get that you're pretty much the only one here? If not THE only one?
I can't see a single G3D member who knows what he's doing using a joke a phone like a Windows Phone. Sorry....
I'll likely move back once Windows 10 mobile is up and running smoothly.
It's actually rather rare that they work. I'm pretty sure they don't work in Z3 Compact. My Honor 6 now (at least since lollipop update) asks if I want to keep the alarm when I shut down the phone (and then it would boot automatically).
Not a single Android phone will "delete" your alarms at any point. If they're set they stay through reboots.
Really not sure what you're talking about saying your phone asks you if you want to keep your alarms. That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard if that's true, if so that is ONLY for Sony Android's. Sounds like something Sony would stupidly do.
I'd never own a Sony phone to be honest. BTW as well, "Compact" phones are for women, FYI. I really hope it was at the very least, a black phone. Hehe.
If you really think so, you are just mistaken.
... or you make a pretty strange choices based on a single criteria.
Dude, we get it. You don't hate Windows Phones.
Do YOU get that you're pretty much the only one here? If not THE only one?
I can't see a single G3D member who knows what he's doing using a joke a phone like a Windows Phone. Sorry....
I'll likely move back once Windows 10 mobile is up and running smoothly.
It's actually rather rare that they work. I'm pretty sure they don't work in Z3 Compact. My Honor 6 now (at least since lollipop update) asks if I want to keep the alarm when I shut down the phone (and then it would boot automatically).
Not a single Android phone will "delete" your alarms at any point. If they're set they stay through reboots.
Really not sure what you're talking about saying your phone asks you if you want to keep your alarms. That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard if that's true, if so that is ONLY for Sony Android's. Sounds like something Sony would stupidly do.
I'd never own a Sony phone to be honest. BTW as well, "Compact" phones are for women, FYI. I really hope it was at the very least, a black phone. Hehe.
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#5191203 Posted on: 11/18/2015 01:46 PM
There are no x86/x86_64 based cellphones with windows.
If you could use same productivity and entertainment application as you do on PC, then windows phone would be much more popular.
I was looking for device like that for long time. Maybe one will be available next year. But if not, then windows phone on ARM will still be inferior to Android on ARM.
There are no x86/x86_64 based cellphones with windows.
If you could use same productivity and entertainment application as you do on PC, then windows phone would be much more popular.
I was looking for device like that for long time. Maybe one will be available next year. But if not, then windows phone on ARM will still be inferior to Android on ARM.
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#5191204 Posted on: 11/18/2015 01:47 PM
I'm one of those stats, from L710 > L520 > L625 > Galaxy S5
I'm one of those stats, from L710 > L520 > L625 > Galaxy S5
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#5191227 Posted on: 11/18/2015 02:34 PM
I have to say that I do really like the Windows phone interface, but the lack of decent app support really kills it for me.
I have to say that I do really like the Windows phone interface, but the lack of decent app support really kills it for me.
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#5191237 Posted on: 11/18/2015 02:53 PM
Thanks god i never made my choices by statistics or being a crowd follower!
I like plain stuff, practical and logical to use.
This is something Microsoft (not always sure but in most cases) have it as a standard.
Google, want to hit Microsoft by doing everything opposite!
Personally i find the whole android and all google product settings to completely wrong places!
Thanks god i never made my choices by statistics or being a crowd follower!
I like plain stuff, practical and logical to use.
This is something Microsoft (not always sure but in most cases) have it as a standard.
Google, want to hit Microsoft by doing everything opposite!
Personally i find the whole android and all google product settings to completely wrong places!
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Hardly a surprise. Very restricting operating system and lack of control/customization...