CPC Hardware AMD Ryzen 7 2700X print review is online incl Benchmarks

Picolete

2018-03-26 18:49

waltc3:

Except for the fact that this isn't Ryzen 2. You are aware of that, hopefully. This is Ryzen +, the original Ryzen taken to a smaller manufacturing process. Ryzen 2 has yet to be revealed. I think what confuses people is that this *is* the "second-gen" Ryzen--just not Ryzen 2. Yes, I think AMD could do a bit better in emphasizing that point...;)

I think you trying to say that this isn't Zen 2, not Ryzen 2

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waltc3

2018-03-26 18:53

Picolete:

I think you trying to say that this isn't Zen 2, not Ryzen 2

Yes, you are right! I'm wondering if there is a difference...;)

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moeppel

2018-03-26 18:55

Looks decent enough given the latency reduction and higher clocks. Remains to be seen what proper RAM does for it alongside of its OC cap. From the few pages it looks as though the increased frequency was bought with increased consumption, so no exactly a large, if any, improvement on the efficiency side. For those undecided whether Ryzen was for them, this iteration will likely seal the deal. Everyone else likely already has a Ryzen or a respective Intel equivalent anyhow. I figure it'll get entertaining again come 2019 and Zen 2.

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waltc3

2018-03-26 18:58

warlord:

I correctly said Ryzen 2, because, Ryzen+ is already obsolete to me and others seeking a worthy upgrade since it isn't a large step forward and don't feel like taking the Intel's 8000 series boat at the moment. 🙂

Yes, I think I misunderstood you--thought you were equating Ry-zen + with 2...Ok, you are waiting on 2, like me...;) + was always slated to be just a die shrink, so I think it will meet expectations.

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Warrax

2018-03-26 19:01

This is pretty much the results I was expecting, Ryzen 2000 is nothing more than polished Ryzen 1000. The real deal will be Ryzen 3000.

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spectatorx

2018-03-26 19:04

warlord:

I correctly said Ryzen 2, because, Ryzen+ is already obsolete to me and others seeking a worthy upgrade since it isn't a large step forward and don't feel like taking the Intel's 8000 series boat at the moment. 🙂

Your posts worded like this seem suspicious, illogical.

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oxidized

2018-03-26 19:34

Any idea when you'll be reviewing this Hilbert?

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Hilbert Hagedoorn

Administrator

2018-03-26 19:56

oxidized:

Any idea when you'll be reviewing this Hilbert?

The procs will launch next month. So in a week or 2-3 would be my esitmate.

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Evildead666

2018-03-26 20:04

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

It's a totally valid remark FM57. Every now and then they do this, they deliberately break NDA, & prior to it go all wild on Twitter creating as much attention as they can. Honestly, I doubt they would even mind as it's probably a good viral for their French print magazine sales? They do it this way very purposely and deliberately, social media teasers, easter eggs, ... and if they really would mind, I'd have received an email already. Also if they didn't break NDA this way, the problem would not exist in the first place?

As someone said before, they didn't have an NDA to sign. They have had good contacts in the Industry for decades 😉 On the magazine note, they have had to increase the price by 1 euro this month onwards, to 6.90 Good to see you just had the pics though, and not the whole pages scanned. btw : you can get access to the online version of the mag, in advance, for a 39 euro/year fee. Seeing as its just a bit cheaper than the print mag now (bi-monthly 6.90) i might subscribe. its always an interesting read.

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oxidized

2018-03-26 20:17

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

The procs will launch next month. So in a week or 2-3 would be my esitmate.

Good, thanks!

#5531869

schmidtbag

2018-03-26 20:56

Great to see a reduction in latencies. I figure that's crippling Ryzen the most at the moment. Seeing as this is an X series, I'm guessing AMD intentionally left a little room for overclockers. I figure 4.4Ghz ought to be achievable for most people with an aftermarket heatsink. But like a lot of others, I'm going to pass on this generation.

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BigMaMaInHouse

2018-03-26 21:18

I bet 4.25Ghz will be the max All core OC. but don't be sad, the good part will be same as with the 1700, much cheaper then 1800X but same max OC, so the non X version with the great VFM gonna be the Best in this refresh 🙂.

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Pinscher

2018-03-26 21:20

Warrax:

This is pretty much the results I was expecting, Ryzen 2000 is nothing more than polished Ryzen 1000. The real deal will be Ryzen 3000.

The 2000 series is everything the 1000 series wasn't. It's a desktop processing on a desktop specific node. A lot of people are saying "why bother upgrading" when the real question is, "why are you not upgrading" Zen+ should have the Slogan "the way it's meant to be made." and rip off Nvidia.

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schmidtbag

2018-03-26 21:25

Pinscher:

A lot of people are saying "why bother upgrading" when the real question is, "why are you not upgrading" Zen+ should have the Slogan "the way it's meant to be made." and rip off Nvidia.

I don't think anyone disagrees that Zen+ is what Zen should've been (though it can also be argued that there wasn't anything especially bad about the 1000 series, either), but, the performance differences aren't great enough to bother upgrading. Chances are that if you didn't have a Ryzen 7 or better, you didn't get one because you didn't need one, or, couldn't afford something better. So for such people, I wouldn't say upgrading is worth it. 1800X users might have a reason to upgrade, and likely have the money to do it too.

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Pinscher

2018-03-26 21:34

BigMaMaInHouse:

I bet 4.25Ghz will be the max All core OC. but don't be sad, the good part will be same as with the 1700, much cheaper then 1800X but same max OC, so the non X version with the great VFM gonna be the Best in this refresh 🙂.

I thought the factory OC was already at 4.35Ghz? Is that not an All Core frequency?

#5531893

Clouseau

2018-03-26 21:48

Am sorry, when I see latencies that high it makes me sick. At stock and no effort what so ever put into the ram, the latency will be that high. Currently am able to achieve 64.8 on Aida64 @ 3487. 3200 is down to 65.2. Running and reporting on 2933 when it is supposed to have 3200 out of the gate is a disgrace as well. That article is worthless. Have no idea what concerns it could legitimately raise. Why would AMD allow such garbage to be printed and not have a response ready for it? Is that periodical's audience that small?

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Agonist

2018-03-26 22:12

Still be a good upgrade for anyone on a quad Ryzen/AM3 FX 83XX to move to a 6 core ryzen or Intel i5 quad. I see Warlord still spewing his ignorance around here.

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