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Intel Delivers Next-Gen H20 Optane Memory for Laptops
Intel today announced its new memory and storage product for client, Intel Optane memory H20 with solid state storage.
Delivering innovation in storage through 11th Gen Intel® Core™ processor-based platforms, Intel Optane memory H20 offers a personalized computing experience with a new level of performance and large storage capacity options for gamers, media and content creators, everyday users and professionals. By combining the best attributes of Intel® Optane technology and Intel QLC 3D
NAND technology, Intel Optane memory H20 brings together two revolutionary memory and storage technologies on a single M.2 2280 form factor device.
The versatile M.2 form factor works in everything from Intel® Evo™ laptops to traditional desktops, as well as all-in-ones and mini-PCs. Providing improved performance and responsiveness with lower power consumption compared with the prior-generation product, Intel Optane memory H20 accelerates what you use most, from everyday tasks to managing large media and gaming files and applications.
Intel Optane memory H20 with solid state storage will be widely available to original equipment manufacturer customers beginning June 20.
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#5913075 Posted on: 05/18/2021 10:08 AM
Ive had a couple of these fail that then report as different capacity depending on the system (Mac, Win etc) it's plugged into to. I really don't get the point of it, just use a decent NVMe drive.
Ive had a couple of these fail that then report as different capacity depending on the system (Mac, Win etc) it's plugged into to. I really don't get the point of it, just use a decent NVMe drive.
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#5913169 Posted on: 05/18/2021 02:32 PM
Like anything with Optane they have amazing 4KQ1T1 performance but there is a massive catch.
These are not 2 in 1 devices that can stand alone. They require bifurcation and the Optane caching "magic" is facilitated by your CPU.
If Intel were to make these 100% standalone units the onboard processor would make these drives prohibitively expensive and the capacities would still suck.
There was a brief period of time where Optane caching made sense for power users but Intel never promoted that use case and then killed off its potential completely when they canceled the incoming M15/815P drives.
There was a time when a huge SATA SSD cached to a 58GB 800P drive was both faster and less expensive than pure NVMe SSDs but Intel saw no value in that use case and never even officially supported it.
The new PCIe gen 4 P5800X drives don't have a consumer counterpart so the prices are just insane. That is pretty much the end of power user Optane.
Fun fact on just how terrible the support for Optane is. If you cache a HDD to Optane, Intel never bothered to work with Microsoft on a driver to pass through defragmentation. As a result Windows will attempt to "TRIM" your HDD because it cannot see the HDD under the Optane cache. The officially support guidance for this is to literally disable Optane, defragment your HDD and then reenable Optane.
Ive had a couple of these fail that then report as different capacity depending on the system (Mac, Win etc) it's plugged into to. I really don't get the point of it, just use a decent NVMe drive.
Like anything with Optane they have amazing 4KQ1T1 performance but there is a massive catch.
These are not 2 in 1 devices that can stand alone. They require bifurcation and the Optane caching "magic" is facilitated by your CPU.
If Intel were to make these 100% standalone units the onboard processor would make these drives prohibitively expensive and the capacities would still suck.
There was a brief period of time where Optane caching made sense for power users but Intel never promoted that use case and then killed off its potential completely when they canceled the incoming M15/815P drives.
There was a time when a huge SATA SSD cached to a 58GB 800P drive was both faster and less expensive than pure NVMe SSDs but Intel saw no value in that use case and never even officially supported it.
The new PCIe gen 4 P5800X drives don't have a consumer counterpart so the prices are just insane. That is pretty much the end of power user Optane.
Fun fact on just how terrible the support for Optane is. If you cache a HDD to Optane, Intel never bothered to work with Microsoft on a driver to pass through defragmentation. As a result Windows will attempt to "TRIM" your HDD because it cannot see the HDD under the Optane cache. The officially support guidance for this is to literally disable Optane, defragment your HDD and then reenable Optane.
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#5913173 Posted on: 05/18/2021 02:36 PM
Why is it called H2O? Surely it doesn't have liquid cooling as a requirement?
Why is it called H2O? Surely it doesn't have liquid cooling as a requirement?
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#5913177 Posted on: 05/18/2021 02:50 PM
These are not 2 in 1 devices that can stand alone. They require bifurcation and the Optane caching "magic" is facilitated by your CPU.
If Intel were to make these 100% standalone units the onboard processor would make these drives prohibitively expensive and the capacities would still suck.
Are you referring to the next gen or existing Optane drives? Also, what are you defining as "standalone"? My laptop came with a 16GB Optane (it was a free upgrade so I thought I might as well take it) and I currently use it to store my OS and applications. So, the drive is definitely standing-alone and works fine as such. I get around 3GB/s of read speed, so clearly I'm not lacking in performance on a mobile platform.
These are not 2 in 1 devices that can stand alone. They require bifurcation and the Optane caching "magic" is facilitated by your CPU.
If Intel were to make these 100% standalone units the onboard processor would make these drives prohibitively expensive and the capacities would still suck.
Are you referring to the next gen or existing Optane drives? Also, what are you defining as "standalone"? My laptop came with a 16GB Optane (it was a free upgrade so I thought I might as well take it) and I currently use it to store my OS and applications. So, the drive is definitely standing-alone and works fine as such. I get around 3GB/s of read speed, so clearly I'm not lacking in performance on a mobile platform.
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Aren't these SSD's intel's way of making M.2 SSD's with a "DRAM" cache? Since Intel doesn't make DRAM but they do make persistent memory Optane DRAM modules, this is their way of adding "DRAM" to an SSD for caching and improving performance. At least thats the way I see it.