Microsoft Testing Windows Update Installation without Reboot: Hotpatching

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Oh god, please, no!
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Remember, if its different, new or not what you already have, its evil 🙄.
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pegasus1:

Remember, if its different, new or not what you already have, its evil 🙄.
While you are right, I do share the sentiment of preferring the reboot over anything on the fly when it comes to microsoft updates that could break your system 😀
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fantaskarsef:

While you are right, I do share the sentiment of preferring the reboot over anything on the fly when it comes to microsoft updates that could break your system 😀
I honestly can't remember a time from W2000 to now when my rig failed to function due to a security update, same with drivers. I tend not to play with my OS's much other than stop non essential stuff from starting. I boot it up, play a game, turn it off, boot it up, edit some video, turn it off, that's about it.
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Because Microsoft has fixed all the other issues with Windows Updates.
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pegasus1:

I honestly can't remember a time from W2000 to now when my rig failed to function due to a security update, same with drivers. I tend not to play with my OS's much other than stop non essential stuff from starting. I boot it up, play a game, turn it off, boot it up, edit some video, turn it off, that's about it.
That's true, but I did have about one update every other year that either was crippling performance or, and that's happened once, image quality. And with WU doing whatever the F it feels like, even now without "requesting" a reboot (and thus no longer notifying home edition users at all I guess), most people wouldn't even know what happened when they have issues.
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pegasus1:

I honestly can't remember a time from W2000 to now when my rig failed to function due to a security update, same with drivers. I tend not to play with my OS's much other than stop non essential stuff from starting. I boot it up, play a game, turn it off, boot it up, edit some video, turn it off, that's about it.
Oh, ok, so you, as a self described basic bee, dont have any problems so that means problems do not exist. Stop being poor, right? 😀 The fact is, Windows update process is far from perfect, even with the mandatory reboots. "On the fly" update process most likely wont increase stability. My computer is way more "mission critical" than yours, to each its own.
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PPC:

Oh god, please, no!
that was my first thought!, while not rebooting is nice they have issue with just rebooting updates.. I still think there mandatory updates, need better testing before they get pushed. people still disable windows update, cause they dont want to deal with. I would not do nor recommend but it is done
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Microsoft trying to find new ways to break Windows. And the users are the beta testers.
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PPC:

Oh, ok, so you, as a self described basic bee, dont have any problems so that means problems do not exist. Stop being poor, right? 😀 The fact is, Windows update process is far from perfect, even with the mandatory reboots. "On the fly" update process most likely wont increase stability. My computer is way more "mission critical" than yours, to each its own.
Obviously im talking about my own circumstances, how could i talk about anybody else's. But for me and update when i turn off or an update thats immediate is absolutely no drama. MS will produce for the masses, not for the tiny % that regularly visits forums such as this.
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In the Linux world, nobody uses it at home (it existed for a long time now.) It's only used for some very large servers where booting takes like 10 minutes and they can't spare the downtime. I don't think end-user desktops is the intended audience for this feature.
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I'll just reboot either way, thanks.
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When i update my GPU drivers, sometimes i have to reboot, sometimes not, does anybody lose their mind if they do or dont?
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WHAT! Microsoft is testing a new feature that's unheard of in this day and age. I thought we ware the guinea pigs 🙂
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PPC:

Oh god, please, no!
Linux can do it, windows should have been able to 10 years ago.
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pegasus1:

I honestly can't remember a time from W2000 to now when my rig failed to function due to a security update, same with drivers. I tend not to play with my OS's much other than stop non essential stuff from starting. I boot it up, play a game, turn it off, boot it up, edit some video, turn it off, that's about it.
really depends on the hardware that you are using, some hardware is positively broken, I remember using win10 on an older core 2 based laptop, and after the update to 1703, it suffered irq allocation problems because of a change to the some pcie driver , twas never fixed afaik. basically made the laptop unusable.
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user1:

really depends on the hardware that you are using, some hardware is positively broken, I remember using win10 on an older core 2 based laptop, and after the update to 1703, it suffered irq allocation problems because of a change to the some pcie driver , twas never fixed afaik. basically made the laptop unusable.
my older laptop think it celeron isnt much better it run win10 insanely slow and i can find many drivers include gpu drivers for it. I put one less demanding linux builds on on it just to make it usable and even that dont have drivers for gpu.
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Microsoft should test releasing updates that actually install without the user needing to alter partition sizes. But hey what do I know.
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user1:

really depends on the hardware that you are using, some hardware is positively broken, I remember using win10 on an older core 2 based laptop, and after the update to 1703, it suffered irq allocation problems because of a change to the some pcie driver , twas never fixed afaik. basically made the laptop unusable.
Backwards compatibility is one thing but thats not what we are talking here, surely its just a method for deploying patches rather than the content of the patch we are talking about.
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pegasus1:

Backwards compatibility is one thing but thats not what we are talking here, surely its just a method for deploying patches rather than the content of the patch we are talking about.
well to be fair i was replying to your response , not really the topic, if updates break things , then thats a major problem, its not like every core 2 machine is broken either, it was just that one laptop, which worked fine previously( and continued to work fine with a roll back), it did not require any special tricks to update from win7, got all the same "upgrade to windows 10" notifications ect. on the topic of live patching, it can be risky if its not done correctly, eg If that system had received the broken patch while it was running , it would've been very confusing, and potentially cause data loss.