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Windows 'Threshold Microsoft's plan to win over Windows 7 users

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 07/02/2014 09:06 AM | source: | 66 comment(s)
Windows 'Threshold Microsoft's plan to win over Windows 7 users

Over at ZDnet Mary Jo wrote an intersting article on Microsoft's main goals with 'Threshold,' the next major version of Windows, is to win over Windows 7 hold-outs. According her this update arrive around Spring 2015. One of the main goals of this new release, which may or may not be called Windows 9, will be to bring Windows 7 users back to the fold. 

Threshold will reportedly have lots of new features specifically aimed at desktops users and will reportedly have a different look based on your hardware type:

And not too surprisingly, one of the Microsoft Operating Systems Group's main goals in designing and developing the coming operating system (OS) release — which may or may not ultimately be branded as "Windows 9" — is to try to make it more palatable to hold-out Windows 7 users.

In order to do this, Microsoft is working on including in Threshold lots of new features specifically aimed at "desktop" users, meaning those who interact primarily with their Windows computing device from a desktop or laptop PC with mouse/keyboard and optional touch.

With Windows 8.1 Update, Microsoft officials designed Windows around a set of profiles based on the hardware specifications of the devices in use. Certain devices running Windows 8.1 Update include Power and Search buttons on the Metro-style Start screen; others don't. Some of those running Windows 8.1 Update have their machines start up by default in the Desktop/Win32 legacy environment, while others on touch/mobile-first devices start up in the Metro-Style Start Menu by default.

According to my sources, Microsoft will continue in this vein with Windows Threshold. The Threshold OS will look and work differently based on hardware type.

 

Users running Threshold on a desktop/laptop will get a SKU, or version, that puts the Windows Desktop (for running Win32/legacy apps) front and center. Two-in-one devices, like the Lenovo Yoga or Surface Pro, will support switching between the Metro-Style mode and the Windowed mode, based on whether or not keyboards are connected or disconnected.

The combined Phone/Tablet SKU of Threshold won't have a Desktop environment at all, but still will support apps running side by side, my sources are reconfirming. This "Threshold Mobile" SKU will work on ARM-based Windows Phones (not just Lumias), ARM-based Windows tablets and, I believe, Intel-Atom-based tablets.

One of Microsoft's primary missions with Threshold is to try to undo the usability mistakes made with Windows 8 for those who prefer and/or are stuck with devices that are not touch-first and for which keyboard/mouse use is of central importance.

The Desktop/laptop SKU of Threshold will include, as previously rumored, the Mini-Start menu — a new version of the traditional Microsoft Start menu, an early concept of which Microsoft showed off at the company's Build developers conference in April. It also will include the ability to run Metro-Style/Windows Store apps in windows on the Desktop. Will it turn off completely the Metro-Style Start screen with its live-tile interface, as Neowin is reporting, and make the tiled Start screen a toggleable option from the Mini Start menu? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised.

(Update: It's worth pointing out the Mini Start menu is expected to be customizable. Users will be able to include Metro-Style apps or remove all Metro Style apps/tiles from the menu so that only Desktop apps are included in the Mini Start menu — either as tiles or in list form.)

Between now and Threshold: What's next?
Before Threshold is released next spring, Microsoft is expected to deliver a public preview of the Threshold release, most likely in the fall of 2014, my sources say.

And before that, Microsoft will deliver a second and final update for Windows 8.1. Since Microsoft officials decided earlier this year to make the Mini Start Menu part of Threshold instead of Update 2, there's not a whole lot of new features of note coming in Update 2. There may be some UI adjustments and tweaks, but nothing hugely noticeable, my sources claim.

Windows 8.1 Update 2 should be code complete any time now and will be locked down about two weeks before August Patch Tuesday, my sources say. (August Patch Tuesday is on August 12.) Microsoft may opt to not make a big deal out of Update 2 and just push it out quietly as part of the set of August patches, I hear.

The Microsoft OS team is hoping to get as many Windows 7 users moved to Windows 7 Service Pack 1 and Windows 8 users to Windows 8.1 Update in preparation for (hopefully) getting them to move to Threshold once it is out. It's still early in the Windows development cycle for Microsoft to have decided on packaging, pricing and distribution, but my sources say, at this point, that Windows Threshold is looking like it could be free to all Windows 8.1 Update, and maybe even Windows 7 Service Pack 1, users.

Microsoft is basically "done" with Windows 8.x. Regardless of how usable or functional it is or isn't, it has become Microsoft's Vista 2.0 — something from which Microsoft needs to distance itself, perception-wise. At this point, Microsoft is going full-steam-ahead toward Threshold and will do its best to differentiate that OS release from Windows 8.







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#4862991 Posted on: 07/02/2014 09:17 AM
No surprise at all.Its a fail for the company that most of its users still uses its 5 years old Windows 7.

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#4863005 Posted on: 07/02/2014 09:56 AM
No surprise at all.Its a fail for the company that most of its users still uses its 5 years old Windows 7.


Well it's Windows XP 2, so why bother upgrading untill Windows 9?

Apart from that i see quite a lot of comments everywhere on the web from people who have a kind of issues with Win 8.x... Drivers, Software, Hardware etc.

My Norton Ghost 15 doesn't work on Win 8.x either.

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#4863016 Posted on: 07/02/2014 10:38 AM
Well it's Windows XP 2, so why bother upgrading untill Windows 9?

Apart from that i see quite a lot of comments everywhere on the web from people who have a kind of issues with Win 8.x... Drivers, Software, Hardware etc.

My Norton Ghost 15 doesn't work on Win 8.x either.

In all fairness, Norton Ghost 15 not working in Windows 8.x is as much a failure on Norton's side to not resolve the compatibility issues as it is Microsoft's Fault.

It's also the case that Norton Ghost 15 is over 4 years old, and the way it functions it explicitly requires supporting the OS. So, it's actually nothing to do with the way Microsoft have done things, they can't keep holding back Windows just to support the odd program.

The same goes for hardware support. Sure, some people have had problems with drivers, it's simply because the company hasn't provided an updated driver. That is a failure of the hardware company, not Microsoft.

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#4863020 Posted on: 07/02/2014 10:41 AM
Win 8.x feels like Early Access content on Steam...

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#4863021 Posted on: 07/02/2014 10:41 AM
since my workstations for audio and video editing are working fast and stable with win7 x64, i don`t see any reason to change to 8 or 9. if there is not a massive improvement in any kind of the relevant features, like hardware support, system stability, driver and 3rd party software compatibility / support there is no reason to buy this.

just because of bling menu`s and fancy social stuff, i wont spend money.

if there is a noticeable speed up in games, i will consider 9 for my gaming rig, noticeable !

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