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Slides Mention AMD X570 chipset with PCI-Express 4 with launch in Computex Timeframe
In yet another slide that got leaked we see something interesting from the AMD front. Matisse basically is what is to be AMD's Ryzen 3, which will be based on Zen 2 cores. The chipset for it is called X570, and would see PCIe 4.0 support.
The leaked slide from gamer.com.tw is a little peculiar in the sense that seems slightly dated with B450 chipset and Athlon 200GE highlighted. They do look valid enough though.
X570 would launch at Computex 2019, which runs from 28 May to 1 June 2019. So from here onwards we can assume Ryzen 3000 based on Zen2 cores would at least be announced in roughly half a year time. Good times.
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#5612646 Posted on: 12/02/2018 05:09 PM
Since PCIe4 doubles the bandwidth, I dont think youll need x4 slots for m2 storage. Not for the general user anyway.
I suppose you might get one on high end boards for bragging rights.
It'll be dropped down to PCIe3 with all of todays m2 at any rate. If they do go over to PCIe4, theyll be at x2 for a while i'll bet.
They could allow them to be split into two x2 slots as well.
The big boon, will be to the chipset. That will gobble up the double bandwidth.
Just hope they dont go overkill on the Sata, and give us some integrated 2.5/5GBps Networking.
Since PCIe4 doubles the bandwidth, I dont think youll need x4 slots for m2 storage. Not for the general user anyway.
I suppose you might get one on high end boards for bragging rights.
It'll be dropped down to PCIe3 with all of todays m2 at any rate. If they do go over to PCIe4, theyll be at x2 for a while i'll bet.
They could allow them to be split into two x2 slots as well.
The big boon, will be to the chipset. That will gobble up the double bandwidth.
Just hope they dont go overkill on the Sata, and give us some integrated 2.5/5GBps Networking.
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#5612663 Posted on: 12/02/2018 05:53 PM
I was hoping Ryzen 3 to be paired with DDR5 ... but by the looks of it it will still use ddr4 ... Kind of bad cuz first year with new DDR is always so god dam expensive and you feel like a test dummy . Expensive ram , new platform with lots of bugs/problems ... And my phenom II starts to show it's age. Games from mid-season 2018 I have to lower IQ settings .
I was hoping Ryzen 3 to be paired with DDR5 ... but by the looks of it it will still use ddr4 ... Kind of bad cuz first year with new DDR is always so god dam expensive and you feel like a test dummy . Expensive ram , new platform with lots of bugs/problems ... And my phenom II starts to show it's age. Games from mid-season 2018 I have to lower IQ settings .
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#5612681 Posted on: 12/02/2018 06:38 PM
Since PCIe4 doubles the bandwidth, I dont think youll need x4 slots for m2 storage. Not for the general user anyway.
I suppose you might get one on high end boards for bragging rights.
It'll be dropped down to PCIe3 with all of todays m2 at any rate. If they do go over to PCIe4, theyll be at x2 for a while i'll bet.
They could allow them to be split into two x2 slots as well.
The big boon, will be to the chipset. That will gobble up the double bandwidth.
Just hope they dont go overkill on the Sata, and give us some integrated 2.5/5GBps Networking.
IIRC 1st M.2 goes directly to CPU.
Since PCIe4 doubles the bandwidth, I dont think youll need x4 slots for m2 storage. Not for the general user anyway.
I suppose you might get one on high end boards for bragging rights.
It'll be dropped down to PCIe3 with all of todays m2 at any rate. If they do go over to PCIe4, theyll be at x2 for a while i'll bet.
They could allow them to be split into two x2 slots as well.
The big boon, will be to the chipset. That will gobble up the double bandwidth.
Just hope they dont go overkill on the Sata, and give us some integrated 2.5/5GBps Networking.
IIRC 1st M.2 goes directly to CPU.
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#5612690 Posted on: 12/02/2018 07:00 PM
Yeah, one x4 to Chipset, and one x4 to m2.
If m2 drives move rapidly to PCIe4 x2/x4 and then it will stay exactly the same, except the max speed of the drives will go up to 4GBytes/s roughly R+W.
I suppose any motherboard manufacturer could bifurcate the x4 into two x2 slots for a dual m2 setup direct to cpu at 'lowly' 2GBytes/s R+W ?
IIRC 1st M.2 goes directly to CPU.
Yeah, one x4 to Chipset, and one x4 to m2.
If m2 drives move rapidly to PCIe4 x2/x4 and then it will stay exactly the same, except the max speed of the drives will go up to 4GBytes/s roughly R+W.
I suppose any motherboard manufacturer could bifurcate the x4 into two x2 slots for a dual m2 setup direct to cpu at 'lowly' 2GBytes/s R+W ?
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Not sure how this is news really, since we had X370 then X470 it was logical the next iteration would be X570 and the other B550, as for Zen 2, well Rome was announced with PCe 4.0 and since their enterprise and desktop CPU's are based on the same architecture then it's also logical that Zen 2 would also have PCIe 4.0, that and since Zen only has 24 lanes, (16x or 8x8x) for the GPU then 4x for NvME/SATA express and the other 4x for the connectivity to the south bridge for USB, SATA, Audio etc. Then the increased bandwidth to the Chipset is much needed without the need to increase the lane count which would more likely increase the cost more than changing from PCIe 3 to PCIe 4, which also has the added benefit with PCIe 4.0 graphics cards of double it's bandwidth more so in crossfire which goes through the bus.