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Guru3D.com » News » Rumor: Ryzen 7000 processors all get integrated graphics

Rumor: Ryzen 7000 processors all get integrated graphics

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 04/06/2021 08:49 AM | source: | 55 comment(s)
Rumor: Ryzen 7000 processors all get integrated graphics

The rumor mill the past years has been in 6th gear, and apparently, we're now already talking Ryzen series 7000/ ZEN4. It's a fresh rumor though. See One difference between Intel and AMD is that all their processors have an integrated GPU (iGPU), activated or not. 

At the end that is more profitable for intel, as they only have one product to fabricate. AMD has two lines, their APUs, and separated the desktop processors. Basically, that's two different architectures, and this a lot of overhead. Well, that might change with the start of the Ryzen series 7000. Several roadmaps now indicate some of the plans that AMD has, and a Reddit user collected information from multiple sources of the internet and put it together in the image seen below. Although this roadmap has similarities with statements already officially made by AMD, it still a lot of speculation. 

But here's how that shapes up to be:

Ryzen 6000 would be based on 6000 Rembrandt architecture (Zen 3+) and Barcelo (Zen 3). New is the (apparent) addition of Navi graphics to Raphael, the Zen 4-based Ryzen 7000 desktop chips. According to users on ChipHell, AMD will switch to an  I/O die fabricated at 6 nm with this generation. There would be n IGP in every AMD processor. Phoenix, the Ryzen mobile Ryzen 7000 chip, coming to the desktop as well, would contain a stronger, newer graphic piece based on RDNA 3. It is reported that AMD has internally set the target to achieve 50 percent better performance per watt with RDNA 3 compared to RDNA 2. The step to DDR5 memory may mean that this computing power can also be performed well in an APU.

Product nameCode nameArchitectureProcessGraphicsMemoryPCI-e
Ryzen 5000 Vermeer Zen 3 7 nm - ddr4 4.0
Ryzen 5000G Cezanne Zen 3 7 nm Vega ddr4 3.0
  Lucienne Zen 2 7 nm Vega ddr4 3.0
Ryzen 6000 Warhol Zen 3+ 6 nm - ddr4 4.0
Ryzen 6000G Rembrandt Zen 3+ 6 nm RDNA 2 ddr5 4.0
  Barcelo Zen 3 7 nm Vega ddr4 3.0
Ryzen 7000 Raphael Zen 4 5 nm RDNA 2? ddr5 5.0
Ryzen 7000G Phoenix Zen 4 5 nm RDNA 3? ddr5 5.0
 
Sources: Reddit, Twitter, ChipHell, Hardware info


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#5902501 Posted on: 04/06/2021 09:11 AM
good.they're stupid for not putting it on their chips earilier.

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#5902503 Posted on: 04/06/2021 09:14 AM
The ultimate cleverer master-plan of making miners buy cpu's also...

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#5902508 Posted on: 04/06/2021 09:56 AM
To me this would only be a good idea if they were actually capable iGPU parts. Something more in line with an RX570/580/GTX1060, and DDR5 will bring a huge bandwidth boost for any iGPU that can access it.

I think removing the iGPU in the first place on Ryzen was a good idea, it allowed them more space on the substrate for more chiplets and didn't bring the headache of having to include an iGPU chiplet that more than likely barely anyone would use on such high end CPU's.

If you are buying a 5950X are you also going to be using the iGPU? More than likely not your going to have a dedicated GPU in your system.

Sure they are ideal to have in troubleshooting dedicated GPU issues. And AMD could of done a better job of naming/marketing their lower end APU chips.

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#5902512 Posted on: 04/06/2021 10:03 AM
Another remaster CPU still on 5/7nm, more to milking than going insane performance path.

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#5902513 Posted on: 04/06/2021 10:20 AM
good.they're stupid for not putting it on their chips earilier.

Nah, it's fine how they do it. It would take up die space for basically no reason on a desktop. That's what APUs are for.

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