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NVIDIA Congratulates Turing - But Might Delay new upcoming Turing graphics cards
So, over the weekend two things happened. First up, it was Alan Turing's birthday, the man behind cracking the Enigma code, the one mathematical name in the industry looking to be the codename to be used by NVIDIA for their GPUs. And guess what?
So with the man having its birthday, it's always fun for a company that if you would use the name on one of your products, at least to do something with that on his birth date. And yeah, that's exactly what NVIDIA did as they posted this tweet:
It's more of a hint really, Turing seems to be the real codename for NVIDIA's upcoming GPU series or at least one of them. It's tradition for NVIDIA to make use of a product codename based on a mathematician, Pascal, Fermi, Kepler etc.
Right, then there is the second bit of news, word out on the street is that NVIDIA will be further delaying the new graphics cards. The mining arena seems to have collapsed, there would be much stock left based on current inventory, and since NVIDIA really doesn't 'need to' release a new series of cards. They might sit it out a little while longer to clear up inventory mentions SemiAccurate. Also, earlier this month it was announced that Nvidia would hold a presentation on Hot Chips mentioning "the next generation of mainstream gpu's" in the conference agenda. As it now seems, this presentation has been canceled and replaced by one from Intel. That is another indication that introduction of Turing seems to have been postponed, although we are not sure.
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#5560133 Posted on: 06/25/2018 10:04 AM
Could be thats why they named the next cards Turing. The release date is as much a cipher as the Enigma code.
Could be thats why they named the next cards Turing. The release date is as much a cipher as the Enigma code.
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#5560134 Posted on: 06/25/2018 10:11 AM
Subtle difference that slipped me before my morning coffee, adding that
Actually Turing cracked the Enigma cipher, which was used by the german military during WW2
Subtle difference that slipped me before my morning coffee, adding that
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#5560136 Posted on: 06/25/2018 10:19 AM
...which it seems they still haven't cracked yet... Ergo the delaying/postponing.
Could be thats why they named the next cards Turing. The release date is as much a cipher as the Enigma code.
...which it seems they still haven't cracked yet... Ergo the delaying/postponing.
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#5560139 Posted on: 06/25/2018 11:03 AM
I assume that few of you can not enjoy the 1080's settling in your cases.
If Nvidia was going to release a new architecture design based on the 12nm fab process how bigger the gain could be? Math is simple here.
Try to stay calm and enjoy one of the most durable architecture that Nvidia has ever made.
Personally this month I have started my third year with the 1080 FE and I am impressed what this card can do...try to do the same
Peace!
I assume that few of you can not enjoy the 1080's settling in your cases.
If Nvidia was going to release a new architecture design based on the 12nm fab process how bigger the gain could be? Math is simple here.
Try to stay calm and enjoy one of the most durable architecture that Nvidia has ever made.
Personally this month I have started my third year with the 1080 FE and I am impressed what this card can do...try to do the same
Peace!
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#5560143 Posted on: 06/25/2018 11:32 AM
I assume that few of you can not enjoy the 1080's settling in your cases.
If Nvidia was going to release a new architecture design based on the 12nm fab process how bigger the gain could be? Math is simple here.
Try to stay calm and enjoy one of the most durable architecture that Nvidia has ever made.
Personally this month I have started my third year with the 1080 FE and I am impressed what this card can do...try to do the same
Peace!
It's still far from satisfying my X34 @ 3440*1440 100hz, not to mention Nvidia is pushing stuff like 4k120 monitors.
I assume that few of you can not enjoy the 1080's settling in your cases.
If Nvidia was going to release a new architecture design based on the 12nm fab process how bigger the gain could be? Math is simple here.
Try to stay calm and enjoy one of the most durable architecture that Nvidia has ever made.
Personally this month I have started my third year with the 1080 FE and I am impressed what this card can do...try to do the same
Peace!
It's still far from satisfying my X34 @ 3440*1440 100hz, not to mention Nvidia is pushing stuff like 4k120 monitors.
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#5560147 Posted on: 06/25/2018 11:41 AM
I assume that few of you can not enjoy the 1080's settling in your cases.
If Nvidia was going to release a new architecture design based on the 12nm fab process how bigger the gain could be? Math is simple here.
Try to stay calm and enjoy one of the most durable architecture that Nvidia has ever made.
Personally this month I have started my third year with the 1080 FE and I am impressed what this card can do...try to do the same
Peace!
Has it been that long? :p
Also entering 3rd year with Pascal in general but only now entering(next month) 2nd year with my Ti. And I couldn't be any happier with it.
And it's ready to be block hopefully this week too!
I assume that few of you can not enjoy the 1080's settling in your cases.
If Nvidia was going to release a new architecture design based on the 12nm fab process how bigger the gain could be? Math is simple here.
Try to stay calm and enjoy one of the most durable architecture that Nvidia has ever made.
Personally this month I have started my third year with the 1080 FE and I am impressed what this card can do...try to do the same
Peace!
Has it been that long? :p
Also entering 3rd year with Pascal in general but only now entering(next month) 2nd year with my Ti. And I couldn't be any happier with it.
And it's ready to be block hopefully this week too!
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#5560149 Posted on: 06/25/2018 11:47 AM
I understand the enthusiast point of view but I am also sure that at the Nvidia headquarters they try to focus on the 250 watt tdp limit for their gaming cards so how much power the new theoretical 12nm architecture may need to be capable of 120 hz at 4k?
At this moment it seems that only the Titan V is capable to do what you would like to see in the mainstream segment.
It's still far from satisfying my X34 @ 3440*1440 100hz, not to mention Nvidia is pushing stuff like 4k120 monitors.
I understand the enthusiast point of view but I am also sure that at the Nvidia headquarters they try to focus on the 250 watt tdp limit for their gaming cards so how much power the new theoretical 12nm architecture may need to be capable of 120 hz at 4k?
At this moment it seems that only the Titan V is capable to do what you would like to see in the mainstream segment.
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#5560154 Posted on: 06/25/2018 12:02 PM
eeerghh no He didn't , someone else did this . stop learning history from movies ,mate
check here for start : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma-machine
Actually Turing cracked the Enigma cipher, which was used by the german military during WW2
eeerghh no He didn't , someone else did this . stop learning history from movies ,mate
check here for start
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma-machine
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#5560155 Posted on: 06/25/2018 12:07 PM
eeerghh no He didn't , someone else did this . stop learning history from movies ,mate
check here for start : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma-machine
Seems correct, it is not for my polish origins but allegedly it has been polish specialists to do the magic appear.
https://ww2.pl/enigma-en/
eeerghh no He didn't , someone else did this . stop learning history from movies ,mate
check here for start
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma-machineSeems correct, it is not for my polish origins but allegedly it has been polish specialists to do the magic appear.
https://ww2.pl/enigma-en/
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#5560173 Posted on: 06/25/2018 02:30 PM
I wonder if Nvidia will scrap 12nm and go straight to 7nm then?
I wonder if Nvidia will scrap 12nm and go straight to 7nm then?
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#5560176 Posted on: 06/25/2018 02:36 PM
eeerghh no He didn't , someone else did this . stop learning history from movies ,mate
check here for start : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma-machine
He lead the team, Hut 8, that cracked the cypher. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan-Turing
eeerghh no He didn't , someone else did this . stop learning history from movies ,mate
check here for start
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma-machineHe lead the team, Hut 8, that cracked the cypher. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan-Turing
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#5560184 Posted on: 06/25/2018 02:46 PM
If Nvidia delays these GPUs in order to refine their performance, I'd be fine with that.
If Nvidia delays these GPUs in order to refine their performance, I'd be fine with that.
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#5560186 Posted on: 06/25/2018 02:47 PM
I don't think Nvidia was ever intending on shipping 12nm gaming GPUs. The only 12nm variant that brings anything is 6.5T and its roughly 10% increase in switching speed/power. Their FFN variant was for reticule sizes above 600mm2 and that was only available in 7.5T which brings no other benefits over 16nm. I never understood why people seemed so convinced that next gen would be 12nm when 7nm was slated for mass production 1H this year for over 2 years now.
It states right after the HUT 8 part that he improved on what the Polish had already done:
The Polish originally cracked specific implementations of the enigma machines - the germans improved them overtime and the method the polish were using became ineffective as complexity increased. Turing stepped in and came up with a more "generalized" method that sped up the process and made it effective again.
I wonder if Nvidia will scrap 12nm and go straight to 7nm then?
I don't think Nvidia was ever intending on shipping 12nm gaming GPUs. The only 12nm variant that brings anything is 6.5T and its roughly 10% increase in switching speed/power. Their FFN variant was for reticule sizes above 600mm2 and that was only available in 7.5T which brings no other benefits over 16nm. I never understood why people seemed so convinced that next gen would be 12nm when 7nm was slated for mass production 1H this year for over 2 years now.
He lead the team, Hut 8, that cracked the cypher. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan-Turing
It states right after the HUT 8 part that he improved on what the Polish had already done:
Here he devised a number of techniques for speeding the breaking of German ciphers, including improvements to the pre-war Polish bombe method, an electromechanical machine that could find settings for the Enigma machine.
The Polish originally cracked specific implementations of the enigma machines - the germans improved them overtime and the method the polish were using became ineffective as complexity increased. Turing stepped in and came up with a more "generalized" method that sped up the process and made it effective again.
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#5560203 Posted on: 06/25/2018 03:28 PM
I know - how about actually lowering GPU prices now that there is glut of GPUs on the market! As an added bonus, the stock gets cleared & the new cards get launched!
I know - how about actually lowering GPU prices now that there is glut of GPUs on the market! As an added bonus, the stock gets cleared & the new cards get launched!
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Actually Turing cracked the Enigma cipher, which was used by the german military during WW2