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Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang made some unusual harsh remarks on yesterday's announced Radeon VII from AMD. In an interview at PC World he mentions this: “The performance is lousy and there’s nothing new,” Huang said.
He finds the product underwhelming and then went on and says: “[There’s] no ray tracing, no AI. It’s 7nm with HBM memory that barely keeps up with a 2080. And if we turn on DLSS we’ll crush it. And if we turn on ray tracing we’ll crush it.”
He then added some more, “It’s a weird launch, maybe they thought of it this morning,” Huang then stated. Huang spoke before a small group of reporters and addressed a wide range of topics. It is very unusual harsh language from the CEO to talk down a product that is not yet on the market. The new Radeon XII will not be available until February 7, no objective independent reviews have been published yet.
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#5625854 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:22 PM
Most important thing is that his cards just works.
We cant wait for that 1180 cards, Jensen.
Most important thing is that his cards just works.
We cant wait for that 1180 cards, Jensen.
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#5625855 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:23 PM
Hmm, would he describe performance of 2080 lousy too then?
I know that the Vega II will have worse performance per watt but considering the fact that this will be an equivalent of nVidias Titan but for a lot different price... well I would not call that lousy at all.
Hmm, would he describe performance of 2080 lousy too then?
I know that the Vega II will have worse performance per watt but considering the fact that this will be an equivalent of nVidias Titan but for a lot different price... well I would not call that lousy at all.
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#5625856 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:23 PM
Sounds like someone is afraid of something. You don't go trash talking a rival unless you're worried.
Sounds like someone is afraid of something. You don't go trash talking a rival unless you're worried.
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#5625857 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:23 PM
That's just flat out disrespectful, and makes you look really ignorant considering you're a CEO.
That's just flat out disrespectful, and makes you look really ignorant considering you're a CEO.
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#5625858 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:24 PM
Harsh words. I sense a bit of stress. RTX sales are slow and Nvidia actually lost half its value in the past few months.
anyhow it seems like Nvidia is going to play alone in the GPU market for now.
Harsh words. I sense a bit of stress. RTX sales are slow and Nvidia actually lost half its value in the past few months.
anyhow it seems like Nvidia is going to play alone in the GPU market for now.
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#5625859 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:24 PM
I find the prices of Nvidia lousy...
I find the prices of Nvidia lousy...
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#5625860 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:26 PM
RTX series are overpriced and RT performance is poor. This year ill build fully AMD computer to my self.
RTX series are overpriced and RT performance is poor. This year ill build fully AMD computer to my self.
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#5625861 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:27 PM
Most important thing is that his cards just works.
We cant wait for that 1180 cards, Jensen.
11XX make no sense for me, Nvidia is all about RTX this RTX that.
I think the 11XX were made as a backup plan if sales are weak or if AMD poses a real threat.
Most important thing is that his cards just works.
We cant wait for that 1180 cards, Jensen.
11XX make no sense for me, Nvidia is all about RTX this RTX that.
I think the 11XX were made as a backup plan if sales are weak or if AMD poses a real threat.
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#5625862 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:27 PM
I find the whole company lousy.
I find the prices of Nvidia lousy...
I find the whole company lousy.
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#5625863 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:29 PM
I haven't owned a Radeon card since the 9700 Pro and wouldn't mind jumping ship if their most recent offering is competitive enough. I'm tired of nvidia's arrogance.
I haven't owned a Radeon card since the 9700 Pro and wouldn't mind jumping ship if their most recent offering is competitive enough. I'm tired of nvidia's arrogance.
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#5625865 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:31 PM
Just goes to prove that Nvidia are bullies. Who cares about Ray Tracing? I don't. Should'nt have someone working for them with that attitude. Counter-productive if you ask me.
Just goes to prove that Nvidia are bullies. Who cares about Ray Tracing? I don't. Should'nt have someone working for them with that attitude. Counter-productive if you ask me.
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#5625867 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:34 PM
I must admit he does have a bit of a point but then anyone in the know already knew this was mostly a Vega 64 die on 7nm with some mild tweaks. His jerk statement pretty much is how the entire company operates. We didn't know if they would have a consumer version which is nice they did that especially for folks that like to hobby in content creation.
I must admit he does have a bit of a point but then anyone in the know already knew this was mostly a Vega 64 die on 7nm with some mild tweaks. His jerk statement pretty much is how the entire company operates. We didn't know if they would have a consumer version which is nice they did that especially for folks that like to hobby in content creation.
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#5625868 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:34 PM
"Wow."
"Wow."
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#5625872 Posted on: 01/10/2019 03:41 PM
Did someone shit in JHHs sweaty jacket this morning? Quite unprofessional and harsh. I long for the day someone competent took over his job.
Until then, JHH should just shut his mouth and keep working on better products himself. I want something faster than my 1080Ti but 2080Ti doesn't cut it. Ridiculous price and lousy performance considering last gen and the price hike.
Did someone shit in JHHs sweaty jacket this morning? Quite unprofessional and harsh. I long for the day someone competent took over his job.
Until then, JHH should just shut his mouth and keep working on better products himself. I want something faster than my 1080Ti but 2080Ti doesn't cut it. Ridiculous price and lousy performance considering last gen and the price hike.
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Heh, maybe this release caught him and his plans on the wrong foot? Maybe he was upset because his distant niece was stealing his black leather jacket for the announcements?
On a more serious note, what does he think he's talking about? RTX which works in close to no game? Or DLSS which does work in close to no game? If he only could turn on those things he might indeed have a clear advantage... right now he does not