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NVIDIA Allegedly Moving Ampere to 7nm TSMC in 2021
One thing is clear, Samsung can't produce the Ampere-based GPUs quick enough or in enough volume so, from the looks of things, NVIDIA will be moving a large chunk of wafer fabrication to TSMC.
The news reached the web today though DigiTimes. And if true that means that NVIDIA likely will slip towards 7nm wafer die production, as expected for a long time in the first place. What also is possible it that the 'update' product like an RTX 3080 with 20GB or other products like the RTX 3050/3060 in the lineup that has not been released just yet move to that TSMC 7nm node.
DigiTimes states Nvidia has already booked high volume production capacity on TSMC’s 7 nm nodes for 2021. TSMC recently lowered the prices on the 7nm wafers and also mentions the choice is made to spread risk that is yield related.
-- Digitimes (online translated) --
It has also been reported that NVIDIA’s previous annual masterpiece RTX 30 series uses Samsung Electronics’ 8nm process at a considerable OEM discount, but will switch to TSMC’s 7nm process in 2021. The order volume is not less. The reason for NVIDIA's transfer of orders is that TSMC's 7nm offer is relatively close to the people, and the other is that it has previously planned to diversify risks to deal with Samsung's 8nm yield problem. The NVIDIA 7nm large order is also one of TSMC's important customers to maintain high-end 7nm capacity utilization in 2021.
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#5842259 Posted on: 10/13/2020 04:12 PM
OMG, what a shit storm this launch is.
It's now obvious to nvidia, that it was a mistake to choose Samsung over TSMC, as they just simply can't produce enough chips - not to mention that those wattages are crap as well.
So, this means no real 3000s series cards until (probably) early next year
OMG, what a shit storm this launch is.
It's now obvious to nvidia, that it was a mistake to choose Samsung over TSMC, as they just simply can't produce enough chips - not to mention that those wattages are crap as well.
So, this means no real 3000s series cards until (probably) early next year
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#5842264 Posted on: 10/13/2020 04:23 PM
OMG, what a crap storm this launch is.
It's now obvious to nvidia, that it was a mistake to choose Samsung over TSMC, as they just simply can't produce enough chips - not to mention that those wattages are crap as well.
So, this means no real 3000s series cards until (probably) early next year
Well the existing ones aren't bad but this node switch was unexpected.
Wonder if that means the earlier rumors on the Super or Ti variants being on hold could see a return on this node now.
This is going to be a bit of a mess too with new stock on a newer node here and how that's going to end up.
EDIT: And how these will then perform if this is accurate.
Interesting, unexpected move for something I assumed would be done with Hopper if that's not a smaller node still.
(Guessing this isn't just the S versions of Ampere either but also the existing and upcoming more VRAM models then.)
OMG, what a crap storm this launch is.
It's now obvious to nvidia, that it was a mistake to choose Samsung over TSMC, as they just simply can't produce enough chips - not to mention that those wattages are crap as well.
So, this means no real 3000s series cards until (probably) early next year
Well the existing ones aren't bad but this node switch was unexpected.
Wonder if that means the earlier rumors on the Super or Ti variants being on hold could see a return on this node now.
This is going to be a bit of a mess too with new stock on a newer node here and how that's going to end up.
EDIT: And how these will then perform if this is accurate.
Interesting, unexpected move for something I assumed would be done with Hopper if that's not a smaller node still.
(Guessing this isn't just the S versions of Ampere either but also the existing and upcoming more VRAM models then.)
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#5842271 Posted on: 10/13/2020 04:42 PM
The ultimate dick-swing. My GPU uses 1nm smaller fab than yours! Nananana.
The ultimate dick-swing. My GPU uses 1nm smaller fab than yours! Nananana.
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#5842274 Posted on: 10/13/2020 04:48 PM
If this is true, wonder what a 3080Ti with 20GB vRAM on 7nm means for the current 3090, similar performance with less power draw?
If this is true, wonder what a 3080Ti with 20GB vRAM on 7nm means for the current 3090, similar performance with less power draw?
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Samsung 8nm was a mistske this just confirms it.