MSI Radeon RX 5500 XT GamingX 8GB review
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 5500 XT EVO 8GB review
PowerColor Radeon RX 5500 XT Red Dragon 8GB review
Gigabyte Radeon RX 5500 XT Gaming 8GB review
Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB review
Zotac Gaming GTX 1650 Super review
Radeon Adrenalin 2020 Edition Driver Overview
Guru3D Winter 2019 PC Buyer Guide
Corsair QL120 and QL140 RGB fan review
Promo: Windows 10 Pro for $13 With Office 2016 For $33
Microsoft Will Fab Windows 10 Edition specifically for high-end PCs
It seems that Microsoft might be working on a Windows 10 pro edition that has been specifically optimized for PC workstations. This Windows 10 Pro version would be able to run four processors and would get Microsoft’s ReFS file system.
This particular version of Windows 10 will be named: ‘Windows 10 Pro for Workstation PCs’. The information became public after a twitter user made some MS slides. The user responded to other users who were analyzing an internal Windows 10 build, ‘Pro for Advanced PCs’, which Microsoft accidently released to testers, reports myce today.
This enthusiast Workstation mode would bring maximum capacity on heavy workloads. The ReFS filesystem would help the OS better to handle large datasets. ReFS is already in use in Windows Server 2012 and 2016 and was designed to be next generation file system after NTFS.
Microsoft Researches Holographic Near-Eye Displays - 05/22/2017 07:55 AM
Microsoft shows a thing or two how digital holography can be used to build novel near-eye displays for virtual and mixed (or augmented) reality. using the form factor of sunglasses by using a powerf...
Microsoft unveils Windows 10 Fall Creators Update - 05/11/2017 07:19 PM
New features of the codenamed Redstone 3 update include user interface change part of what Microsoft calls Fluent Design System and Timeline functions as well as OneDrive Files On-Demand. There wi...
Microsoft Patches the "Crazy Bad" Windows Vulnerability - 05/09/2017 03:10 PM
Earlier today we reported that Google Project Zero researchers found a ‘crazy bad’ Windows RCE flaw. Microsoft apparantly took it very serious, as it likely was one of the biggest...
Microsoft Surface-laptop costs 1149 euro (updated) - 05/02/2017 06:24 PM
Several renders and images have been spotted on the web showing an unannounced Microsoft Surface-laptop. A Microsoft insider posted the content on Twitter last night. The new laptop will get a 13.5&...
Microsoft Announces Windows 10 S To Take On Google Chromebook - 05/02/2017 03:43 PM
Microsoft has launched Windows 10 S. Windows 10 S is a version of the OS targeted at students of all ages that promises higher performance, better battery life, and tighter security....
chronek
Senior Member
Posts: 185
Joined: 2016-09-19
Senior Member
Posts: 185
Joined: 2016-09-19
#5440216 Posted on: 06/08/2017 08:03 AM
So are they planning release special version with more bloatware and you will need 4 processors to run os itself?
So are they planning release special version with more bloatware and you will need 4 processors to run os itself?
RealNC
Senior Member
Posts: 3114
Joined: 2011-11-24
Senior Member
Posts: 3114
Joined: 2011-11-24
#5440223 Posted on: 06/08/2017 08:50 AM
No. They are planning to release a Windows 10 version that can use up to 4 CPUs and also support ReFS.
Currently, Windows 10 can only use 2 CPUs, and doesn't support ReFS. For more CPUs and ReFS support, you need a Windows Server license (which is more expensive.) This is MS providing a cheaper way to use more CPUs and the new FS in a non-server OS.
If you need more than 4 CPUs, you'd still need Windows Server.
So in short: this is not for you and me. This is for systems that have multi-socket mainboards with 4 CPUs. For example 4 Xeon CPUs (quad Xeon mainboard) with 12 cores and 24 threads each, for a total of 48 cores and 96 threads total.
So are they planning release special version with more bloatware and you will need 4 processors to run os itself?
No. They are planning to release a Windows 10 version that can use up to 4 CPUs and also support ReFS.
Currently, Windows 10 can only use 2 CPUs, and doesn't support ReFS. For more CPUs and ReFS support, you need a Windows Server license (which is more expensive.) This is MS providing a cheaper way to use more CPUs and the new FS in a non-server OS.
If you need more than 4 CPUs, you'd still need Windows Server.
So in short: this is not for you and me. This is for systems that have multi-socket mainboards with 4 CPUs. For example 4 Xeon CPUs (quad Xeon mainboard) with 12 cores and 24 threads each, for a total of 48 cores and 96 threads total.
cryohellinc
Senior Member
Posts: 2763
Joined: 2014-10-20
Senior Member
Posts: 2763
Joined: 2014-10-20
#5440228 Posted on: 06/08/2017 09:29 AM
No, that is specifically reserved for Win 10 x65 chronek Malware Edition. To be released this August.
Jokes aside, this is purely for workstations.
So are they planning release special version with more bloatware and you will need 4 processors to run os itself?
No, that is specifically reserved for Win 10 x65 chronek Malware Edition. To be released this August.
Jokes aside, this is purely for workstations.
TheDeeGee
Senior Member
Posts: 6245
Joined: 2010-08-28
Senior Member
Posts: 6245
Joined: 2010-08-28
#5440234 Posted on: 06/08/2017 10:02 AM
It's better you stick to Windows 98 SE.
So are they planning release special version with more bloatware and you will need 4 processors to run os itself?
It's better you stick to Windows 98 SE.
asturur
Senior Member
Posts: 433
Joined: 2010-05-12
Senior Member
Posts: 433
Joined: 2010-05-12
#5440242 Posted on: 06/08/2017 10:47 AM
the cpu / ram limit of the windows editions is sick.
I never understood if there is real software problem behind it or not. Multi cpu configuration are possible just with specific cpu that can handle to work with more cpus.
16 cores or 16 cpus should be sort of transparent for the OS.
Maybe i m wrong.
the cpu / ram limit of the windows editions is sick.
I never understood if there is real software problem behind it or not. Multi cpu configuration are possible just with specific cpu that can handle to work with more cpus.
16 cores or 16 cpus should be sort of transparent for the OS.
Maybe i m wrong.
RealNC
Senior Member
Posts: 3114
Joined: 2011-11-24
Senior Member
Posts: 3114
Joined: 2011-11-24
#5440268 Posted on: 06/08/2017 11:56 AM
the cpu / ram limit of the windows editions is sick.
I never understood if there is real software problem behind it or not. Multi cpu configuration are possible just with specific cpu that can handle to work with more cpus.
16 cores or 16 cpus should be sort of transparent for the OS.
Maybe i m wrong.
This is a licensing issue, not a software issue. People who need multiple processors can afford to buy more expensive licenses. The less expensive versions of Windows have the functionality removed or locked.
That's how software businesses work
the cpu / ram limit of the windows editions is sick.
I never understood if there is real software problem behind it or not. Multi cpu configuration are possible just with specific cpu that can handle to work with more cpus.
16 cores or 16 cpus should be sort of transparent for the OS.
Maybe i m wrong.
This is a licensing issue, not a software issue. People who need multiple processors can afford to buy more expensive licenses. The less expensive versions of Windows have the functionality removed or locked.
That's how software businesses work
rl66
Senior Member
Posts: 2213
Joined: 2007-05-31
Senior Member
Posts: 2213
Joined: 2007-05-31
#5440270 Posted on: 06/08/2017 12:01 PM
This is only for mainstream OS
But the 4 CPU add is a great improvement, lot of workstations who use more tan 2 CPU, were obliged to use W10 server wich is lot more expensive and don't need most specific feature of this edition.
Of course i am talking about those who use Windows... most other OS don't have this limit
So are they planning release special version with more bloatware and you will need 4 processors to run os itself?
This is only for mainstream OS
But the 4 CPU add is a great improvement, lot of workstations who use more tan 2 CPU, were obliged to use W10 server wich is lot more expensive and don't need most specific feature of this edition.
Of course i am talking about those who use Windows... most other OS don't have this limit
chronek
Senior Member
Posts: 185
Joined: 2016-09-19
Senior Member
Posts: 185
Joined: 2016-09-19
#5440275 Posted on: 06/08/2017 12:31 PM
I was joking, it will be only more expensive marketing trick, with few things unlocked...
Btw when there is no iso in msdn to download every user can get personalized windows edition with media creation tool and he would not know that....
No, that is specifically reserved for Win 10 x65 chronek Malware Edition. To be released this August.
I was joking, it will be only more expensive marketing trick, with few things unlocked...
Btw when there is no iso in msdn to download every user can get personalized windows edition with media creation tool and he would not know that....
PrMinisterGR
Senior Member
Posts: 7005
Joined: 2014-09-27
Senior Member
Posts: 7005
Joined: 2014-09-27
#5440284 Posted on: 06/08/2017 01:26 PM
The Media Creation tool is the first link they give you when you go to Windows.com. It's not exactly secret.
The Media Creation tool is the first link they give you when you go to Windows.com. It's not exactly secret.
Fender178
Senior Member
Posts: 3793
Joined: 2004-09-28
Senior Member
Posts: 3793
Joined: 2004-09-28
#5440298 Posted on: 06/08/2017 02:14 PM
Its nice that MS is doing this. I'm sure that alot of workstation users who need more than 2 Processors would have said about time they did this no need for us to spend 1000 bucks on an OS. Too bad MS wouldn't fab a gaming edition of Windows 10 that have less bloat rather than have that built-in gaming mode. I mean look at Linux there are certain Linux distros that are geared towards gaming.
Its nice that MS is doing this. I'm sure that alot of workstation users who need more than 2 Processors would have said about time they did this no need for us to spend 1000 bucks on an OS. Too bad MS wouldn't fab a gaming edition of Windows 10 that have less bloat rather than have that built-in gaming mode. I mean look at Linux there are certain Linux distros that are geared towards gaming.
Ghosty
Senior Member
Posts: 4908
Joined: 2003-07-23
Senior Member
Posts: 4908
Joined: 2003-07-23
#5440300 Posted on: 06/08/2017 02:17 PM
Hopefully MS will add more bloatware to Windows 10 as it clearly needs more.
Hopefully MS will add more bloatware to Windows 10 as it clearly needs more.
MorganX
Senior Member
Posts: 127
Joined: 2015-03-30
Senior Member
Posts: 127
Joined: 2015-03-30
#5440311 Posted on: 06/08/2017 02:44 PM
Really?
Is this the first step to Windows for Workstations per core licensing model? Oh why did IBM have to fail with OS/2 and why has Linux failed to become a viable mainstream desktop alternative?
Really?
Is this the first step to Windows for Workstations per core licensing model? Oh why did IBM have to fail with OS/2 and why has Linux failed to become a viable mainstream desktop alternative?
lucidus
Senior Member
Posts: 11856
Joined: 2011-12-31
Senior Member
Posts: 11856
Joined: 2011-12-31
#5440320 Posted on: 06/08/2017 03:08 PM
I think it is per socket, not core.
Best aspect about this ReFS according to wikipedia,
Is this the first step to Windows for Workstations per core licensing model? Oh why did IBM have to fail with OS/2 and why has Linux failed to become a viable mainstream desktop alternative?
I think it is per socket, not core.
Best aspect about this ReFS according to wikipedia,
Windows Store cannot install apps on a ReFS volume.
Ghosty
Senior Member
Posts: 4908
Joined: 2003-07-23
Senior Member
Posts: 4908
Joined: 2003-07-23
#5440340 Posted on: 06/08/2017 03:56 PM
Because consumers are too lazy to put the effort in and want everything to be plug and forget.
Is this the first step to Windows for Workstations per core licensing model? Oh why did IBM have to fail with OS/2 and why has Linux failed to become a viable mainstream desktop alternative?
Because consumers are too lazy to put the effort in and want everything to be plug and forget.
Click here to post a comment for this news story on the message forum.
Senior Member
Posts: 2763
Joined: 2014-10-20
Hilbert, some spelling -
Should would