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Microsoft may aim to implement an indirect system requirement for Windows 11 out-of-box systems e.g pre fabricated PCs.
The corporation is requesting that SSDs be used as the primary storage device in all pre-built PCs reports toms hardware. This should be the case by 2023, despite opposition from manufacturers. The current deadlines for the switchover are set for 2023. Trendfocus reports that OEMs have disclosed Microsoft is pushing them to drop HDDs in Windows 11 PCs.
Microsoft's most recent list of hardware requirements for Windows 11 speaks for a "64 GB or bigger storage device," thus an SSD is not a need for a regular install. Microsoft mandates that two functions, DirectStorage and the Windows Subsystem for Android, need an SSD, although you are not required to utilize these features. It is unknown if Microsoft intends to modify the minimum requirements for Windows 11 PCs after the 2023 transition to SSDs for pre-built systems. The initiative to compel OEMs to utilize SSDs instead of HDDs for boot volumes makes a great deal of sense from a performance perspective, since SSDs are orders of magnitude quicker than hard drives for operating systems, resulting in a snappier, more responsive user experience.
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#6024085 Posted on: 06/09/2022 04:05 PM
I don't really see the point of this push. Sure, I get how MS wants features like DS more widely accessible and they don't want their OS to seem slow (especially compared to competitors) because of a slow HDD, but they could just do a certification program for prebuilt PCs, so people have some idea of what they're getting.
In general, I see this as a bad move, since this is yet another instance of companies moving goalposts to compensate for a lack of optimization. I understand DS actually needs fast storage in order to have any value, but it also isn't a necessary feature. Windows is bloated, NTFS (last I checked) is rather sloppy about keeping data contiguous, and the OS is too "swappy". It also doesn't help that Windows doesn't have an effective way of mounting folders to other drives, which can improve the overall performance since data can be read/written in multiple drives simultaneously. So for example, using an SSD for the boot drive and a HDD for the Users folder.
At least one thing Windows does do easily is using different drives for paging files and to install programs to.
I don't really see the point of this push. Sure, I get how MS wants features like DS more widely accessible and they don't want their OS to seem slow (especially compared to competitors) because of a slow HDD, but they could just do a certification program for prebuilt PCs, so people have some idea of what they're getting.
In general, I see this as a bad move, since this is yet another instance of companies moving goalposts to compensate for a lack of optimization. I understand DS actually needs fast storage in order to have any value, but it also isn't a necessary feature. Windows is bloated, NTFS (last I checked) is rather sloppy about keeping data contiguous, and the OS is too "swappy". It also doesn't help that Windows doesn't have an effective way of mounting folders to other drives, which can improve the overall performance since data can be read/written in multiple drives simultaneously. So for example, using an SSD for the boot drive and a HDD for the Users folder.
At least one thing Windows does do easily is using different drives for paging files and to install programs to.
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#6024093 Posted on: 06/09/2022 04:14 PM
Great! It's been a while since I've bought a new laptop, but I've had gaming laptops that shipped with 5400 RPM drives that were absolutely miserable to deal with.
Great! It's been a while since I've bought a new laptop, but I've had gaming laptops that shipped with 5400 RPM drives that were absolutely miserable to deal with.
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#6024105 Posted on: 06/09/2022 04:36 PM
Good!
Hard drives are great for storage but have such painfully low IOPS, clearly demonstrated when booting up any OS not just Windows.
I bought my first SSDs in 2010 and 12 years later OEMs are still putting slow spinning rust into new PCs to save on cost - please can we move forwards?
Also, with PCIe 5.0 the bandwidth gap between NVMe SSDs and hard drives just got a lot bigger than it already was.
Good!
Hard drives are great for storage but have such painfully low IOPS, clearly demonstrated when booting up any OS not just Windows.
I bought my first SSDs in 2010 and 12 years later OEMs are still putting slow spinning rust into new PCs to save on cost - please can we move forwards?
Also, with PCIe 5.0 the bandwidth gap between NVMe SSDs and hard drives just got a lot bigger than it already was.
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#6024106 Posted on: 06/09/2022 04:44 PM
A good move from MS. No reason not to have an SSD as a boot drive.
A good move from MS. No reason not to have an SSD as a boot drive.
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Finally a good move from them!