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Intel Haswell Core i7 and Core i5 specs leak onto the web
The Asian version of VR Zone is showing specifications of fourteen of Intel's upcoming Core i5 and Core i7 "Haswell" series desktop processors. It seems there will be six "standard power" models with a TDP of 84W, and eight "low power" versions with a TDP of 35W, 45W or 65W. Check an overview after the break.
Intel Haswell Could Be Last Upgradable Desktop Microprocessor - 11/27/2012 10:34 AM
According to a media report starting from code-named Broadwell generation of processors, Intel Corp. will only offer mainstream desktop chips in BGA packaging, which will eliminate upgrade options as ...
Intel Haswell-ULT low-power chip details - 11/13/2012 10:11 AM
Intel is working on the Haswell-ULT, a special low-power variant of Haswell with a redesigned package to accommodate the PCH silicon and new, additional C-states that drop the processor's base clocks...
Intel Haswell motherboard lineup Leaks - 10/11/2012 07:25 AM
A German tech site published specifications and details about Intel's upcoming Haswell motherboard lineup. The website shows the first H87 based motherboards from Intel will arrive in week 13 of 2013.
Intel Haswell-EP platform details - 06/28/2012 11:17 AM
VR Zone delivers news about Intel's 2013-2014 Haswell-EP platform. This 22nm server platform may be the first to use DDR4 memory. The first and most important portion of a leaked slide reveals the arr...
Intel Haswell-EX gets DDR4 memory - 04/05/2012 10:16 AM
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#4476863 Posted on: 12/11/2012 04:46 PM
So basically we´re looking at a minor refresh because even the clock speeds are equal to the actual CPUs...
The only noteworthy feature seems to be the lower TDPs.
Well , i guess this is what happens when there´s little to no competition.
So basically we´re looking at a minor refresh because even the clock speeds are equal to the actual CPUs...
The only noteworthy feature seems to be the lower TDPs.
Well , i guess this is what happens when there´s little to no competition.
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#4476864 Posted on: 12/11/2012 04:48 PM
Why remove virtualization? Meh .. I think I'll hold on to my X58 setup a while longer. I hope they suffer more due to their apparent inability to adapt to the mobile market.
Why remove virtualization? Meh .. I think I'll hold on to my X58 setup a while longer. I hope they suffer more due to their apparent inability to adapt to the mobile market.
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#4476869 Posted on: 12/11/2012 04:56 PM
Seriously, stop with the socket madness :/
Seriously, stop with the socket madness :/
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#4476871 Posted on: 12/11/2012 05:00 PM
Standard virtualization will almost certainly be available, what is disabled is directed I/O (Vt-d) which allows more than one VM to run at same time without significantly hampering performance when they access same hardware at same time. No biggie to most VM users I would think.
Yet again disabling virtualization on the unlocked chips... that's really sucky!
Standard virtualization will almost certainly be available, what is disabled is directed I/O (Vt-d) which allows more than one VM to run at same time without significantly hampering performance when they access same hardware at same time. No biggie to most VM users I would think.
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#4476875 Posted on: 12/11/2012 05:06 PM
Higher TDP for the unlocked chips? They're gunna need more than a 10% increase in clock-for-clock performance to make up for the increased draw then, given they're running similar speeds to IB.
Higher TDP for the unlocked chips? They're gunna need more than a 10% increase in clock-for-clock performance to make up for the increased draw then, given they're running similar speeds to IB.
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#4476877 Posted on: 12/11/2012 05:10 PM
So basically we´re looking at a minor refresh because even the clock speeds are equal to the actual CPUs...
The only noteworthy feature seems to be the lower TDPs.
Well , i guess this is what happens when there´s little to no competition.
It's actually funny, I think this is the most competition Intel has ever had, it's just not from AMD or even destkop CPU's in general it's from ARM and mobile parts.
Anyway, the refresh is in the GPU. From the start Haswell was being pegged to be GPU based like Ivybridge, little in the actual CPU, everything into the GPU. You're going to see the biggest gains in integrated graphics.
So basically we´re looking at a minor refresh because even the clock speeds are equal to the actual CPUs...
The only noteworthy feature seems to be the lower TDPs.
Well , i guess this is what happens when there´s little to no competition.
It's actually funny, I think this is the most competition Intel has ever had, it's just not from AMD or even destkop CPU's in general it's from ARM and mobile parts.
Anyway, the refresh is in the GPU. From the start Haswell was being pegged to be GPU based like Ivybridge, little in the actual CPU, everything into the GPU. You're going to see the biggest gains in integrated graphics.
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#4476878 Posted on: 12/11/2012 05:13 PM
It's actually funny, I think this is the most competition Intel has ever had, it's just not from AMD or even destkop CPU's in general it's from ARM and mobile parts.
Anyway, the refresh is in the GPU. From the start Haswell was being pegged to be GPU based like Ivybridge, little in the actual CPU, everything into the GPU. You're going to see the biggest gains in integrated graphics.
I know that but i don´t care about integrated graphics...
It's actually funny, I think this is the most competition Intel has ever had, it's just not from AMD or even destkop CPU's in general it's from ARM and mobile parts.
Anyway, the refresh is in the GPU. From the start Haswell was being pegged to be GPU based like Ivybridge, little in the actual CPU, everything into the GPU. You're going to see the biggest gains in integrated graphics.
I know that but i don´t care about integrated graphics...
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#4476915 Posted on: 12/11/2012 06:03 PM
1- Higher GHz is not the only way to make a processor faster. Haswell is supposed to have improved architecture when compared to ivy bridge.
2- VT-x = virtualization. K unlocked chips always supported virtualization but not the VT-d which is virtualization for directed I/O
3- AMD won't release any replacement to Piledriver in 2013 according to the latest roadmap. So, at least intel is releasing something new.
4- Intel HD4600 is probably based Haswell GT2 which is not the fastest GPU for haswell. The fastest iGPU GT3 chip is going to be used only for some mobile chips. HD4600 will probably perform just slightly faster than HD4000, while the GT3 chip is supposed to be twice as fast HD4000
1- Higher GHz is not the only way to make a processor faster. Haswell is supposed to have improved architecture when compared to ivy bridge.
2- VT-x = virtualization. K unlocked chips always supported virtualization but not the VT-d which is virtualization for directed I/O
3- AMD won't release any replacement to Piledriver in 2013 according to the latest roadmap. So, at least intel is releasing something new.
4- Intel HD4600 is probably based Haswell GT2 which is not the fastest GPU for haswell. The fastest iGPU GT3 chip is going to be used only for some mobile chips. HD4600 will probably perform just slightly faster than HD4000, while the GT3 chip is supposed to be twice as fast HD4000
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#4476918 Posted on: 12/11/2012 06:05 PM
hoping for 10% clock per clock faster than ivy and hitting easily 5ghz on air...then i will upgrade...if that does not happen exactly as i mentioned above then, oh well i will wait for rockwell(broadwell)
i will not waste a single euro anymore on pc, because smooth gaming is vanished from every system combo...
hoping for 10% clock per clock faster than ivy and hitting easily 5ghz on air...then i will upgrade...if that does not happen exactly as i mentioned above then, oh well i will wait for rockwell(broadwell)
i will not waste a single euro anymore on pc, because smooth gaming is vanished from every system combo...
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#4477024 Posted on: 12/11/2012 08:29 PM
unless the prices are fantastic it looks like ill go with my original plan and just get an 8350 for 90 bucks and get a new haswell laptop to replace my amd turion TL-60 laptop
unless the prices are fantastic it looks like ill go with my original plan and just get an 8350 for 90 bucks and get a new haswell laptop to replace my amd turion TL-60 laptop
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#4477027 Posted on: 12/11/2012 08:31 PM
Looks like my faithful core i5 SB@4.6 will last me a long time.
Looks like my faithful core i5 SB@4.6 will last me a long time.
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#4477028 Posted on: 12/11/2012 08:33 PM
Great chance for amd , then.
Hope, they would give a big jump by steamroller.
Great chance for amd , then.
Hope, they would give a big jump by steamroller.
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#4477030 Posted on: 12/11/2012 08:36 PM
Directed I/O is actually for passthrough ability to talk to hardware. For example with VT-d you can "hook up" your high end graphics card directly to a VM rather than using the virtual graphics that you would normally use.
Standard virtualization will almost certainly be available, what is disabled is directed I/O (Vt-d) which allows more than one VM to run at same time without significantly hampering performance when they access same hardware at same time. No biggie to most VM users I would think.
Directed I/O is actually for passthrough ability to talk to hardware. For example with VT-d you can "hook up" your high end graphics card directly to a VM rather than using the virtual graphics that you would normally use.
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#4477032 Posted on: 12/11/2012 08:37 PM
Indeed if you have Sandy or newer then no biggie, however most members here have been waiting on this sacrificing their games in the process, well here it is folks.
Looks like my faithful core i5 SB@4.6 will last me a long time.
Indeed if you have Sandy or newer then no biggie, however most members here have been waiting on this sacrificing their games in the process, well here it is folks.
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Yet again disabling virtualization on the unlocked chips... that's really sucky!