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Intel Announces Core i9 9900K Processor
During a live stream intel, today announced a Coffee lake-S refresh processor. Coffee Lake started as 8th gen six-core processors and now this is expanding towards eight-core processors. They have a TDP at 95W.
While not mandatory, the Z390 chipset based motherboards are recommended for the 8-core parts. The Coffee Lake 9000 are also based on a 14nm fabrication node, now with desktop in a 6-core and 8-core models. The Coffee Lake series processors are a refresh of the existing architecture and as such, the core basis is the same (as well as IPC). If we look back a little further, Coffee Lake-S shares design elements found in the Kaby lake and Skylake architecture, but now scaled upwards to 8-cores. The processor series is fabbed at 14nm.
- 9900K - 8c/16t has 16MB L3
In the initial release, you will see three primary procs, but that does not mean you'll only see a couple of processors in the Core 9000 range, word out on the street is that models like 9100, 9400 and 9500 Core series processors will be released as well. Next week the performance reviews on the newly announced products will go live. The presentation was a bit confusing for the Core 9000 series, Intel only talked about the Core i9 9900K, and nothing else. We'll add what we think we know.
| Core i9-9900K | Core i7-9700K | Core i5-9600K | |
| Cores / Threads | 8/16 | 8/8 | 6/6 |
| Speed | 3.6GHz | 3.6GHz | 3.7GHz |
| Maximum turbo | 5GHz | 4.9 GHz | 4.6 GHz |
| L2 cache per core | 256KB | 256KB | 256KB |
| L3 cache | 16MB | 12MB | 9MB |
| Memory channels | Dual-channel | Dual-channel | Dual-channel |
| Tdp | 95W | 95W | 95W |
| price | $488 | $374 | $262 |
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#5593821 Posted on: 10/08/2018 04:54 PM
Solder TIM Thank you Intel
Solder TIM Thank you Intel
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#5593827 Posted on: 10/08/2018 05:02 PM
Those games demos were kinda pointless. No frame rates shown and those games I don't think are CPU bound
Those games demos were kinda pointless. No frame rates shown and those games I don't think are CPU bound
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#5593836 Posted on: 10/08/2018 05:17 PM
$488 for the "world's first 8c/16t mainstream processor", LoL. It's like they're pretending that the 1800X doesn't exist and that a near $500 price tag is "mainstream". The galls...
At least they're going back to solder for their X-series refresh and making all lanes available; a small but welcome change. Pricing is still atrocious though. Their new 28-core unlocked Xeon seems to be limited to 44 CPU lanes (I thought it'd be more than the X-series). It's also not 5 GHz like Intel promised back at CES (Intel lied - shock!).
$488 for the "world's first 8c/16t mainstream processor", LoL. It's like they're pretending that the 1800X doesn't exist and that a near $500 price tag is "mainstream". The galls...
At least they're going back to solder for their X-series refresh and making all lanes available; a small but welcome change. Pricing is still atrocious though. Their new 28-core unlocked Xeon seems to be limited to 44 CPU lanes (I thought it'd be more than the X-series). It's also not 5 GHz like Intel promised back at CES (Intel lied - shock!).
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#5593839 Posted on: 10/08/2018 05:24 PM
I'm copy-pasting my comment on the pre-order topic because that picture you used as illustration basically says the same : BEST GAMING PROCESSOR
intel knows what it is selling, forum users don't seem to
you guys all seem heavily involved into servers, work computers and stuff
my quote :
these are gamer's CPU and you are talking about HT, cores or Ryzen threadripper you clearly are not the target
what does the 9900k offer ? 5Ghz stock clock speed for 1-2 cores
stock as in no overclocking, no memory compatibility problems, no problems at all you just install boot and it works
the only thing that matters for 99% of the games especially the older or non-AAA ones
also even the new ones google : forza horizon cpu core problem
the game basically use only one core Turn10 says it's on purpose >< which proves my point really as a gamer you want 1-4 cores with high speed and the rest does not matter
and this is what those cpus bring, sli being pretty much dead we don't care about cpu lanes as much
(I had SLI on 580-680-780-980-1080 so I know a "little" about it and dropped it in favor of a single 1080ti, my target being 120fps in 1080p)
I'm copy-pasting my comment on the pre-order topic because that picture you used as illustration basically says the same : BEST GAMING PROCESSOR
intel knows what it is selling, forum users don't seem to
you guys all seem heavily involved into servers, work computers and stuff
my quote :
these are gamer's CPU and you are talking about HT, cores or Ryzen threadripper you clearly are not the target
what does the 9900k offer ? 5Ghz stock clock speed for 1-2 cores
stock as in no overclocking, no memory compatibility problems, no problems at all you just install boot and it works
the only thing that matters for 99% of the games especially the older or non-AAA ones
also even the new ones google : forza horizon cpu core problem
the game basically use only one core Turn10 says it's on purpose >< which proves my point really as a gamer you want 1-4 cores with high speed and the rest does not matter
and this is what those cpus bring, sli being pretty much dead we don't care about cpu lanes as much
(I had SLI on 580-680-780-980-1080 so I know a "little" about it and dropped it in favor of a single 1080ti, my target being 120fps in 1080p)
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#5593842 Posted on: 10/08/2018 05:26 PM
and even for the 9600K, which surprised me.
-andy-
Solder TIM Thank you Intel
and even for the 9600K, which surprised me.
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#5593846 Posted on: 10/08/2018 05:31 PM
Other website already posted some photos including slides from conference.
Most if not all Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities are fixed by Microcode + Software, meaning "software" mitigation.
Performance penalty at those prices. Da faq.
Other website already posted some photos including slides from conference.
Most if not all Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities are fixed by Microcode + Software, meaning "software" mitigation.
Performance penalty at those prices. Da faq.
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#5593861 Posted on: 10/08/2018 05:51 PM
So let me Sum up the Announcement: Intel took all the existing SKU's, Replaced the toothpaste with proper Solder and showed it like "new Tech" that improves thermals/clocks etc', thanks to Soldered CPU's they raised the TDP and overclocked the CPU's - And now we got "new" CPU's and core i9- OMG it's sad day...
And the New 28 core "Beast" - same old Xeon with unlocked multi and crazy TDP - OMG- ROFL! well done Intel Marketing Department !
P.S- did any one count the number of time's they used "All New" in the presentations? we all know that it all same with n ew name-lol.
So let me Sum up the Announcement: Intel took all the existing SKU's, Replaced the toothpaste with proper Solder and showed it like "new Tech" that improves thermals/clocks etc', thanks to Soldered CPU's they raised the TDP and overclocked the CPU's - And now we got "new" CPU's and core i9- OMG it's sad day...
And the New 28 core "Beast" - same old Xeon with unlocked multi and crazy TDP - OMG- ROFL! well done Intel Marketing Department !
P.S- did any one count the number of time's they used "All New" in the presentations? we all know that it all same with n ew name-lol.
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#5593871 Posted on: 10/08/2018 06:12 PM
I'd say since it is $500, it is going to be a minimum of €500. Then it depends on the VAT. I guess something between €500 - €550.
Any word on EU price?
I'd say since it is $500, it is going to be a minimum of €500. Then it depends on the VAT. I guess something between €500 - €550.
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#5593899 Posted on: 10/08/2018 06:49 PM
To add on what @MaCk0y says,
$488 converted to Euros at currant rates as of today = about €425 so then we add VAT on top of that, lets say, 20% VAT we're looking at €510 minimum - there will undoubtedly have import/export fees added as well as retail overheads so probably looking at €550.
Any word on EU price?
I'd say since it is $500, it is going to be a minimum of €500. Then it depends on the VAT. I guess something between €500 - €550.
To add on what @MaCk0y says,
$488 converted to Euros at currant rates as of today = about €425 so then we add VAT on top of that, lets say, 20% VAT we're looking at €510 minimum - there will undoubtedly have import/export fees added as well as retail overheads so probably looking at €550.
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#5593927 Posted on: 10/08/2018 07:48 PM
In UK tonight all shops have it at £600 ( $784)
Imho you shouldn't be expecting anything less than €550 in the rest of the EU.
Any word on EU price?
In UK tonight all shops have it at £600 ( $784)
Imho you shouldn't be expecting anything less than €550 in the rest of the EU.
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#5593961 Posted on: 10/08/2018 08:36 PM
So the i9-7900x was a 10 core 20 thread processor with quad channel memory, and now the i9-9900k is an 8 core 16 thread processor with dual channel memory? What, are they going to create a 9900x as well and confuse their naming even more? Sure is a roller coaster over at intel.
Edit: nvm, i see there is already (or rumored) 9820x and 9900x, both higher end then the 9900k, which is really...really confusing when it comes to the 9820x.....
So the i9-7900x was a 10 core 20 thread processor with quad channel memory, and now the i9-9900k is an 8 core 16 thread processor with dual channel memory? What, are they going to create a 9900x as well and confuse their naming even more? Sure is a roller coaster over at intel.
Edit: nvm, i see there is already (or rumored) 9820x and 9900x, both higher end then the 9900k, which is really...really confusing when it comes to the 9820x.....
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#5593966 Posted on: 10/08/2018 08:47 PM
I'm copy-pasting my comment on the pre-order topic because that picture you used as illustration basically says the same : BEST GAMING PROCESSOR
intel knows what it is selling, forum users don't seem to
you guys all seem heavily involved into servers, work computers and stuff
my quote :
these are gamer's CPU and you are talking about HT, cores or Ryzen threadripper you clearly are not the target
what does the 9900k offer ? 5Ghz stock clock speed for 1-2 cores
stock as in no overclocking, no memory compatibility problems, no problems at all you just install boot and it works
the only thing that matters for 99% of the games especially the older or non-AAA ones
also even the new ones google : forza horizon cpu core problem
the game basically use only one core Turn10 says it's on purpose >< which proves my point really as a gamer you want 1-4 cores with high speed and the rest does not matter
and this is what those cpus bring, sli being pretty much dead we don't care about cpu lanes as much
(I had SLI on 580-680-780-980-1080 so I know a "little" about it and dropped it in favor of a single 1080ti, my target being 120fps in 1080p)
The end result here is going to be around a 10fps gain at 1440p (and even less at 4k), which most people who are willing to spend $500 on a CPU are running at. Even with the 2080Ti, games are still mostly GPU bound at any resolution above 1080p, and your average gamer with a 1070 or 1080 will be GPU bound at 1080 as well.
So the question is, do you think the price $150 difference between a 2700x and a 9900k is worth it for that extra 10-12 fps? People with a lot of money to burn will say yes, because they always say yes. Everyone else will be getting a 2700x or one of those other people's used 8700k chips and be perfectly content.
I'm copy-pasting my comment on the pre-order topic because that picture you used as illustration basically says the same : BEST GAMING PROCESSOR
intel knows what it is selling, forum users don't seem to
you guys all seem heavily involved into servers, work computers and stuff
my quote :
these are gamer's CPU and you are talking about HT, cores or Ryzen threadripper you clearly are not the target
what does the 9900k offer ? 5Ghz stock clock speed for 1-2 cores
stock as in no overclocking, no memory compatibility problems, no problems at all you just install boot and it works
the only thing that matters for 99% of the games especially the older or non-AAA ones
also even the new ones google : forza horizon cpu core problem
the game basically use only one core Turn10 says it's on purpose >< which proves my point really as a gamer you want 1-4 cores with high speed and the rest does not matter
and this is what those cpus bring, sli being pretty much dead we don't care about cpu lanes as much
(I had SLI on 580-680-780-980-1080 so I know a "little" about it and dropped it in favor of a single 1080ti, my target being 120fps in 1080p)
The end result here is going to be around a 10fps gain at 1440p (and even less at 4k), which most people who are willing to spend $500 on a CPU are running at. Even with the 2080Ti, games are still mostly GPU bound at any resolution above 1080p, and your average gamer with a 1070 or 1080 will be GPU bound at 1080 as well.
So the question is, do you think the price $150 difference between a 2700x and a 9900k is worth it for that extra 10-12 fps? People with a lot of money to burn will say yes, because they always say yes. Everyone else will be getting a 2700x or one of those other people's used 8700k chips and be perfectly content.
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#5593969 Posted on: 10/08/2018 08:52 PM
So the i9-7900x was a 10 core 20 thread processor with quad channel memory, and now the i9-9900k is an 8 core 16 thread processor with dual channel memory? What, are they going to create a 9900x as well and confuse their naming even more? Sure is a roller coaster over at intel.
Edit: nvm, i see there is already (or rumored) 9820x and 9900x, both higher end then the 9900k, which is really...really confusing when it comes to the 9820x.....
Don't forget that the 7900x had more PCIe lanes as well. These are still limited to 16 lanes like all previous consumer chips.
They only called this a core i9 to justify the big price hike. It's a Core i7 in everything but name and price, and the 9700k is a Core i5.
So the i9-7900x was a 10 core 20 thread processor with quad channel memory, and now the i9-9900k is an 8 core 16 thread processor with dual channel memory? What, are they going to create a 9900x as well and confuse their naming even more? Sure is a roller coaster over at intel.
Edit: nvm, i see there is already (or rumored) 9820x and 9900x, both higher end then the 9900k, which is really...really confusing when it comes to the 9820x.....
Don't forget that the 7900x had more PCIe lanes as well. These are still limited to 16 lanes like all previous consumer chips.
They only called this a core i9 to justify the big price hike. It's a Core i7 in everything but name and price, and the 9700k is a Core i5.
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#5593987 Posted on: 10/08/2018 09:23 PM
well, this will be a hit for gamers i suppose... expensive stuff to play games at top FPS these days (probably always has been like this)
well, this will be a hit for gamers i suppose... expensive stuff to play games at top FPS these days (probably always has been like this)
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Any word on EU price?