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Guru3D NVMe Thermal Test - the influence of a heatsink
We conducted two Thermal Paste roundups, the first in 2019 and the second in 2021. Why not try something else and investigate the temperature influence of other PC components outside the CPU/GPU? Perhaps it would be worthwhile to test the radiator's slash heatsink impact on NVMe drive performance.
Read the review here.
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#6027064 Posted on: 06/21/2022 12:57 PM
F I N A L L Y someone else says that a M.2 placed above the gpu is not good
- after years telling people that 9/10 motherboards had awful design with the M.2 above the gpu or on it's side getting all the hot air
(the only good one was the MSI TRX40 Creator who had two m.2 at the bottom of the motherboard and 1 vertically on the right of the ddr slots, all 3 away from heat sources and in places that had better airflow)
- that the 5.0 M.2 from the latest asus Z690 extreme was the most stupid thing ever and was UNUSABLE (because not only does it kill your gpu bandwith, currently it divides it by 4x not 2x...4x !) but it means their stupid idiotic giant heatsink 1mm above the gpu backplate is actively HEATING your M.2 "who whould have guessed that placing a heat exchanger 1mm above a 80-100°C plate would not cool it...woaw I'm shocked !"
(that's what you get when you claim to give useful info to consumers but keep using test benches because it makes YOUR job easier...but then all your measurements are trash because an open test bench is not a real computer aka a closed case)
I'm afraid that's too late for the next AMD lineup because I noticed on the announcement they also looked like they had heatsinks almost touching the gpu, so another fake slot that you really shouldn't use, not like you want it anyway...see my rants on why pcie 5.0 is worst than 4.0 (you gain nothing but only lose more bandwith when the x16 is split between the pcie slots)
maybe that's the reason why AMD went dual chipset...I hope so
when they say : your pcie slot is
(the only good one was the MSI TRX40 Creator who had two m.2 at the bottom of the motherboard and 1 vertically on the right of the ddr slots, all 3 away from heat sources and in places that had better airflow)
- that the 5.0 M.2 from the latest asus Z690 extreme was the most stupid thing ever and was UNUSABLE (because not only does it kill your gpu bandwith, currently it divides it by 4x not 2x...4x !) but it means their stupid idiotic giant heatsink 1mm above the gpu backplate is actively HEATING your M.2 "who whould have guessed that placing a heat exchanger 1mm above a 80-100°C plate would not cool it...woaw I'm shocked !"
(that's what you get when you claim to give useful info to consumers but keep using test benches because it makes YOUR job easier...but then all your measurements are trash because an open test bench is not a real computer aka a closed case)
I'm afraid that's too late for the next AMD lineup because I noticed on the announcement they also looked like they had heatsinks almost touching the gpu, so another fake slot that you really shouldn't use, not like you want it anyway...see my rants on why pcie 5.0 is worst than 4.0 (you gain nothing but only lose more bandwith when the x16 is split between the pcie slots)
maybe that's the reason why AMD went dual chipset...I hope so
when they say : your pcie slot is
x16 x8 x4
it's not : x of 5.0 speed
it's : of whatever pcie speed your peripheral is
so when your gpu pcie slot goes from 16x 5.0 (52Tb/s) down to x8 it's not x8 5.0 (26Tb/s) it's x8 4.0 at best which is 1/4 speed or x16 3.0 (13Tb/s) and yes you lose performance with high end videocards
it's : of whatever pcie speed your peripheral is
so when your gpu pcie slot goes from 16x 5.0 (52Tb/s) down to x8 it's not x8 5.0 (26Tb/s) it's x8 4.0 at best which is 1/4 speed or x16 3.0 (13Tb/s) and yes you lose performance with high end videocards
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#6027139 Posted on: 06/21/2022 05:18 PM
Thank you for this review. Something everyone should consider in hot summer days if they want their their NVMe storage to perform right and most important to have a long life.
Freaking hot NVMe SSDs for years are on my "cooling OCD" list so not a big deal for me, it's just one more thing that screams for heatsink to be slapped on it and/or airflow in case to be adjusted so it would be properly cooled.
Thank you for this review. Something everyone should consider in hot summer days if they want their their NVMe storage to perform right and most important to have a long life.
Freaking hot NVMe SSDs for years are on my "cooling OCD" list so not a big deal for me, it's just one more thing that screams for heatsink to be slapped on it and/or airflow in case to be adjusted so it would be properly cooled.
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#6027142 Posted on: 06/21/2022 05:29 PM
These are baby heatsinks. Should have tested the big boi from Thermalright...

These are baby heatsinks. Should have tested the big boi from Thermalright...

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#6027148 Posted on: 06/21/2022 05:52 PM
Very well done review and indeed needed for the Guru3d community to get well informed on nvme throttling. there are a lot of cheap good alternatives if you look on Amazon and ebay to cool your nvme
, i'm personally using an nvme water block ( corsair ) beacuse my Sabrent Rocket Plus 2Tb runs hot af and since my whole built is water cooled i added the little water block for it and it never reaches over 45c under the heviest of loads / huge file transfers ( movies / Games / Data , etc... ).
Cool your nvmes is a must to get everyhting out of them without throttling , even the integrated mobo heatsink will help.
Very well done review and indeed needed for the Guru3d community to get well informed on nvme throttling. there are a lot of cheap good alternatives if you look on Amazon and ebay to cool your nvme

Cool your nvmes is a must to get everyhting out of them without throttling , even the integrated mobo heatsink will help.
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Nice, good to know. I guess I should not cheap out in that regard with the next build.