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#5419002 Posted on: 04/11/2017 06:01 PM
Seriously MS needs to move to less lengthy support to the benefit of all. Just my opinion.
Yeah Longhorn/Vista was actually good...a bit ahead of its time.
Seriously MS needs to move to less lengthy support to the benefit of all. Just my opinion.
Yeah Longhorn/Vista was actually good...a bit ahead of its time.
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#5419003 Posted on: 04/11/2017 06:01 PM
20 years?
RTM 2006
/ GA 2007
20 years?
RTM 2006
/ GA 2007
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#5419007 Posted on: 04/11/2017 06:18 PM
Seriously MS needs to move to less lengthy support to the benefit of all. Just my opinion.
Yeah Longhorn/Vista was actually good...a bit ahead of its time.
To my understanding, the support is more in terms of security patches; that's about it. I figure most of those patches are trickled down from newer OSes. MS likely predicted demand for Vista was going to last longer than it did, in the same way that happened with XP. They have the money to keep up with it, so I wouldn't say it's really hurting anybody. Think about it - there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to use Vista over either XP or Windows 7 (depending what your objective and hardware is). These are not people who have any influence on the PC market.
As for Vista being "actually good", no, it wasn't. As PrMinisterGR put it, Vista was a very important release, but it was never a good OS. It was an adequate and very usable OS by the time Windows 7 was released, at which point you might as well have bought 7 if you didn't already own Vista.
Seriously MS needs to move to less lengthy support to the benefit of all. Just my opinion.
Yeah Longhorn/Vista was actually good...a bit ahead of its time.
To my understanding, the support is more in terms of security patches; that's about it. I figure most of those patches are trickled down from newer OSes. MS likely predicted demand for Vista was going to last longer than it did, in the same way that happened with XP. They have the money to keep up with it, so I wouldn't say it's really hurting anybody. Think about it - there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to use Vista over either XP or Windows 7 (depending what your objective and hardware is). These are not people who have any influence on the PC market.
As for Vista being "actually good", no, it wasn't. As PrMinisterGR put it, Vista was a very important release, but it was never a good OS. It was an adequate and very usable OS by the time Windows 7 was released, at which point you might as well have bought 7 if you didn't already own Vista.
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#5419008 Posted on: 04/11/2017 06:19 PM
I still have 6 Vista systems, running it since release day. I really like it over the newer versions.
I still have 6 Vista systems, running it since release day. I really like it over the newer versions.
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#5419011 Posted on: 04/11/2017 06:25 PM
Yup, we're still using essentially the same NT kernel today, with Vista came NT 6.0, Win7 6.1, Win8, 6.2, Win8.1 6.3 and Win10 6.4, although Microsoft have arbitrarily changed the NT version number for Win10 to..... NT 10.0
With Vista, the whole OS eco-system changed, the major overhaul of the NT kernel, the driver platform, the rendering engine for the GUI etc
Of course, over time over the various subsequent releases of Windows, things have been improved but the fact is, everything has been built on top of Windows Vista.
And many would agree, Windows 7, was Windows Vista done right.
Probably the most important Windows release, tech wise, since NT.
Yup, we're still using essentially the same NT kernel today, with Vista came NT 6.0, Win7 6.1, Win8, 6.2, Win8.1 6.3 and Win10 6.4, although Microsoft have arbitrarily changed the NT version number for Win10 to..... NT 10.0
With Vista, the whole OS eco-system changed, the major overhaul of the NT kernel, the driver platform, the rendering engine for the GUI etc
Of course, over time over the various subsequent releases of Windows, things have been improved but the fact is, everything has been built on top of Windows Vista.
And many would agree, Windows 7, was Windows Vista done right.
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#5419015 Posted on: 04/11/2017 06:38 PM
I always thought that Microsoft should have had the free Windows 10 upgrade cover Vista as well.
The userbase is minimal compared to Windows 7, yet the Vista userbase would have had a bigger incentive to upgrade, knowing supports for Vista was coming to an end.
I always thought that Microsoft should have had the free Windows 10 upgrade cover Vista as well.
The userbase is minimal compared to Windows 7, yet the Vista userbase would have had a bigger incentive to upgrade, knowing supports for Vista was coming to an end.
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#5419016 Posted on: 04/11/2017 06:40 PM
To my understanding, the support is more in terms of security patches; that's about it. I figure most of those patches are trickled down from newer OSes. MS likely predicted demand for Vista was going to last longer than it did, in the same way that happened with XP. They have the money to keep up with it, so I wouldn't say it's really hurting anybody. Think about it - there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to use Vista over either XP or Windows 7 (depending what your objective and hardware is). These are not people who have any influence on the PC market.
As for Vista being "actually good", no, it wasn't. As PrMinisterGR put it, Vista was a very important release, but it was never a good OS. It was an adequate and very usable OS by the time Windows 7 was released, at which point you might as well have bought 7 if you didn't already own Vista.
Note I added Longhorn to what I said...If Vista had retained all the features it had during the long beta we paid 10 USD a pop for the beta Disc it would of been so much better...however like my favorite MMO EQ2 should of been great however it was also ahead of its time...and simply all of us, even tech nerds then did not have supercomputers to handle either of their visions.
To my understanding, the support is more in terms of security patches; that's about it. I figure most of those patches are trickled down from newer OSes. MS likely predicted demand for Vista was going to last longer than it did, in the same way that happened with XP. They have the money to keep up with it, so I wouldn't say it's really hurting anybody. Think about it - there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to use Vista over either XP or Windows 7 (depending what your objective and hardware is). These are not people who have any influence on the PC market.
As for Vista being "actually good", no, it wasn't. As PrMinisterGR put it, Vista was a very important release, but it was never a good OS. It was an adequate and very usable OS by the time Windows 7 was released, at which point you might as well have bought 7 if you didn't already own Vista.
Note I added Longhorn to what I said...If Vista had retained all the features it had during the long beta we paid 10 USD a pop for the beta Disc it would of been so much better...however like my favorite MMO EQ2 should of been great however it was also ahead of its time...and simply all of us, even tech nerds then did not have supercomputers to handle either of their visions.
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#5419027 Posted on: 04/11/2017 07:09 PM
meh i really need to installed win7 or win10 on that laptop that still uses it.
meh i really need to installed win7 or win10 on that laptop that still uses it.
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#5419029 Posted on: 04/11/2017 07:14 PM
Terrible hardware support in its early weeks, massive memory hogging/cacheing and the first appearance of UAC. Dual booting XP was necessary for me. Took me about 6 months before using Vista predominantly over XP.
Terrible hardware support in its early weeks, massive memory hogging/cacheing and the first appearance of UAC. Dual booting XP was necessary for me. Took me about 6 months before using Vista predominantly over XP.
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#5419032 Posted on: 04/11/2017 07:18 PM
20 years?
RTM 2006 / GA 2007
lmao too. Maybe it felt like 20 waiting from xp to vista. And then the major letdown... ha
20 years?
RTM 2006
/ GA 2007
lmao too. Maybe it felt like 20 waiting from xp to vista. And then the major letdown... ha
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#5419033 Posted on: 04/11/2017 07:19 PM
****. I misread. Aye, and it came out too early even though it was delayed numerous times.
Probably the most important Windows release, tech wise, since NT.
****. I misread. Aye, and it came out too early even though it was delayed numerous times.
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#5419034 Posted on: 04/11/2017 07:19 PM
Unless you had a CPU with HT, why exactly didn't you just stick with XP and then upgrade to 7 when that came out? There were easily accessible patches to run DX10 games in XP. I'm not aware of anything else at the time that was better about Vista that couldn't be accounted for.
Terrible hardware support in its early weeks, massive memory hogging/cacheing and the first appearance of UAC. Dual booting XP was necessary for me. Took me about 6 months before using Vista predominantly over XP.
Unless you had a CPU with HT, why exactly didn't you just stick with XP and then upgrade to 7 when that came out? There were easily accessible patches to run DX10 games in XP. I'm not aware of anything else at the time that was better about Vista that couldn't be accounted for.
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#5419046 Posted on: 04/11/2017 07:40 PM
I used Vista Ultimate for quite awhile and liked it. I don't remember having any major issues with it. I loved the Windows Vista "orb" live wall paper and the side bar gadgets were cool.
People compare it to Me and that was a true disaster!
I used Vista Ultimate for quite awhile and liked it. I don't remember having any major issues with it. I loved the Windows Vista "orb" live wall paper and the side bar gadgets were cool.
People compare it to Me and that was a true disaster!
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#5419048 Posted on: 04/11/2017 07:46 PM
I never had Vista on my own PCs. I've a friend who's still running a Vista machine, but I reckon she's getting a new PC this summer.
I never had Vista on my own PCs. I've a friend who's still running a Vista machine, but I reckon she's getting a new PC this summer.
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Probably the most important Windows release, tech wise, since NT.