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AMD Ryzen Chips 10% Smaller When Compared to Intel Skylake Dies

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/07/2017 04:14 PM | source: | 28 comment(s)
AMD Ryzen Chips 10% Smaller When Compared to Intel Skylake Dies

AMD states its upcoming Ryzen core fits into a 10 percent smaller die area than Intel’s currently shipping second-generation 14nm processor. Analysts and even Intel engineers in the session said the Zen core is clearly competitive though many confidential variables will determine whether the die advantage translates into lower cost for AMD reports eetimes.

EEtimes: The paper detailed techniques AMD used to reduce switching capacitance by 15 percent compared to its existing chips. For example, Zen marked AMD’s first use of a metal-insulator-metal capacitor which helped lower operating voltages and provide greater per-core voltage and frequency control.

Engineers tracked on a weekly basis power benchmarks on high activity regions for more than a year to reduce switching capacitance. The company now has two eight-core designs running with simultaneous multithreading at 3.4 GHz.

Hilbert: one thing they are not taking into account is the lacking integrated GPU. On Intels side it eats up nearly a third of the die space. For AMD, they do not use an IGP - the entire die size is thus used for the actual processors.



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Denial
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#5389725 Posted on: 02/07/2017 04:21 PM
It's also on a larger process(slightly).. interesting.

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#5389729 Posted on: 02/07/2017 04:31 PM
igpu...

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#5389732 Posted on: 02/07/2017 04:39 PM
It's also on a larger process(slightly).. interesting.

Yes, a little discouraging. This could be another situation where some tests perform great while others are very lacking, which is reminiscent of Bulldozer. But, at least Ryzen has already had proof of outperforming Intel in real-world everyday applications. Meanwhile Bulldozer was really only theoretically faster than Nehalem or Sandy Bridge or whatever was available at it's release time.

There are many things to consider, though. For example, transistor count isn't everything; realistically, the only way for AMD to outperform Intel in just about any test while still retaining full instruction set compatibility is to make the design as efficient as possible. In other words, involve the fewest amount of transistors as possible without crippling the pipeline.

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#5389753 Posted on: 02/07/2017 05:23 PM
igpu...


Likely this.

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#5389755 Posted on: 02/07/2017 05:35 PM
There is no way an Intel 4 core CPU with an iGPU is only 49mm2. They definitely subtracted the iGPU out for the comparison.

Edit: Anandtech estimated that 6700K is 122.4 mm2 - so yeah, definitely not factoring the iGPU here.

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