Ryzen 5000 - Zen 3 lineup Cinebench R20 scores pop up in database

#5841703 Posted on: 10/12/2020 11:12 AM

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You can be confident that it's not gonna happen in many years.

Intel have the performance crown for many years without competition, I doubt that Intel it's gonna sink without doing anything, and they have the money and the resources.

My fear it's that this is a one day flower. I hope that AMD can fight the crown for many years.
Well , even though i feel that AMD is gonna play differently on the market while relishing on its dominance, Intel's almost decade long nibbling on 4c/8t crap makes me apprehensive.

#5841704 Posted on: 10/12/2020 11:16 AM

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What do you mean by this? There is an $450 8-core 5800X that beats the 10-core 10900K, which is officially $488, but I couldn't find one under $650 (Microcenter, Amazon, Newegg). You can 100% use B550 motherboards with the 5800X. Their price start at around $80-90.

It only beats it half-way though, in multi-core the Intel 10-core is still ahead, so the comparison isn't exactly that clear-cut. And AMD did already increase prices this generation - deservedly so with their performance of Zen2 and Zen3, but its a departure from the "value" brand for CPUs for sure.

And comparing street prices for the Intel CPU and MSRP of the AMD isn't accurate. There is a good chance that there will be shortages of those new AMD CPUs and thus price hikes.

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For the record, I can get a 10900K for 525€, which converted to USD and deducted taxes, that comes around to roughly 500 USD, not too far from MSRP. No clue if there is official MSRP for europe to compare to.

#5841706 Posted on: 10/12/2020 11:23 AM

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This is Intel's new 10nm laptop chip correct, Intel Core i7-1185G7?

Running at 4.8 so if desktop variant can reach 5.3 like the past 10900K then it could reach R20 score of 668. If AMD releases an XT variant of the 5950 that reaches 5 Ghz then a score of 647 can be reached.

Competition is great! Battle on!

#5841709 Posted on: 10/12/2020 11:36 AM

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I don't think there's any need to overclock it. It's fast enough. It's already faster than Intel's 5.3Ghz in single core performance.

#5841710 Posted on: 10/12/2020 11:46 AM

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So if we assume the data is real, the $450 5800X is within 12% in multithread against officially $488, but in reality $650+ 10900K - which is 2/4 cores/thread less. And nearly 15% faster in single thread.



What do you mean by this? There is an $450 8-core 5800X that beats the 10-core 10900K, which is officially $488, but I couldn't find one under $650 (Microcenter, Amazon, Newegg). You can 100% use B550 motherboards with the 5800X. Their price start at around $80-90.

It only beats it half-way though, in multi-core the Intel 10-core is still ahead, so the comparison isn't exactly that clear-cut. And AMD did already increase prices this generation - deservedly so with their performance of Zen2 and Zen3, but its a departure from the "value" brand for CPUs for sure.

And comparing street prices for the Intel CPU and MSRP of the AMD isn't accurate. There is a good chance that there will be shortages of those new AMD CPUs and thus price hikes.

PS:
For the record, I can get a 10900K for 525€, which converted to USD and deducted taxes, that comes around to roughly 500 USD, not too far from MSRP. No clue if there is official MSRP for europe to compare to.

Pretty much what @nevcairiel said in regards to the cost. It's not like the price wasn't justified, but the "AMD is cheaper than Intel" argument is no longer there, which it was just a few years ago. And that didn't happen because Intel dropped their prices that much in the last years.

But, I want to stress, I find the price is justified. Just not a "exceptionally cheap and good" line of products, just a good products. And of course you are right with B550 mainboard. But buying a 500+€ CPU, I wouldn't want to cheap out on the mainboard. Especially not if you need more than one PCIe slot, etc.