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Zen 3-based Ryzen detailed, 16-core model with 4.6GHz boost and rumored 20% IPC increase
As you all know, ZEN3-based Ryzen processors should arrive later this year, according to a new leak, AMD is already testing at least three models, from which specifications now have surfaced.
A table of OPN info has leaked though Germany based Igors lab, these are interesting as with OPNs information such frequencies and core counts are listed. The slower model with 8 cores and 16 threads will have a base frequency of 3800MHz and boost at 4400MHz, while the faster 8-core model will have a base frequency of 4000MHz and boost at 4600MHz. Regarding the 16-core and 32-threads model, it will have a base frequency of 3700MHz and boost to 4600MHz.
AMD is testing the following engineering samples codenamed "Vermeer":
Name: Vermeer (VMR)
Family: 19h
Models: 20h-2Fh
CPUID: 0xa20f00
OPN 1: 100-000000063-07_46 / 40_N
OPN 2: 100-000000063-08_46 / 40_Y
OPN 3: 100-000000063-23_44 / 38_N
Revision: A0
Cores: 8
Threads: 16
OPN 1: 100-000000059-14_46 / 37_Y
OPN 2: 100-000000059-15_46 / 37_N
Revision: A0
Cores: 16
Threads: 32
One should realize that these likely are engineering samples, and with anything tagged ES, nothing is final. It will be interesting to see. Chatter on the web indicated an IPC increase as well, to 20%. Ryzen 4000 is expected to make a debut in September.
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#5790269 Posted on: 05/20/2020 10:38 AM
It has better IPC and more threads than all Intel offerings. Still, people will give their soul for half a ghz just epeen reasoning. I need to see power consumption in real world scenarios to decide who is more retard. Amd fanboys or Intel ones.
It has better IPC and more threads than all Intel offerings. Still, people will give their soul for half a ghz just epeen reasoning. I need to see power consumption in real world scenarios to decide who is more retard. Amd fanboys or Intel ones.
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#5790271 Posted on: 05/20/2020 10:47 AM
These are Engineering Samples :p
4.6Ghz on them is huge thing, Zen 2 ES A0 had 4.2 boost clock.
This could bode well. I went all out on an X570 board in the hopes that Zen 3 would deliver a CPU that I could sit on for ~5 years, much like I did with my 4770k setup.
Damn AMD, stop it. I want to skip this DDR4 thing all alone.
Yeah, I held out on DDR4 as long as I could. Ended up buying some 32GB FlareX B-Die stuff and had a blast tweaking it over the last week, hope for some reasonable resale to somebody still on DDR3 when Zen4/DDR5 are available. Don't be afraid to make the jump right now or with Zen 3, even daily tasks and desktop use saw a massive uptick in responsiveness when I went from 4770k/2400MHz@CL10 to 3600X/3600MHz@CL16.
Really loving it right now and I'm prepared for PCIe 4.0 GPU's and NVMe drives around Christmas this year.
These are Engineering Samples :p
4.6Ghz on them is huge thing, Zen 2 ES A0 had 4.2 boost clock.
This could bode well. I went all out on an X570 board in the hopes that Zen 3 would deliver a CPU that I could sit on for ~5 years, much like I did with my 4770k setup.
Damn AMD, stop it. I want to skip this DDR4 thing all alone.
Yeah, I held out on DDR4 as long as I could. Ended up buying some 32GB FlareX B-Die stuff and had a blast tweaking it over the last week, hope for some reasonable resale to somebody still on DDR3 when Zen4/DDR5 are available. Don't be afraid to make the jump right now or with Zen 3, even daily tasks and desktop use saw a massive uptick in responsiveness when I went from 4770k/2400MHz@CL10 to 3600X/3600MHz@CL16.
Really loving it right now and I'm prepared for PCIe 4.0 GPU's and NVMe drives around Christmas this year.
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#5790273 Posted on: 05/20/2020 10:48 AM
Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them.
I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform.
I wish I wasn't right.
I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.
Thread ripper prices went down on a per core value. The only 4000 dollar cpu had 4 time the cores count of the old one that costed 999. And performance went up. So no, on Zen2 they were still on the cheap side
Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them.
I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform.
I wish I wasn't right.
I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.
Thread ripper prices went down on a per core value. The only 4000 dollar cpu had 4 time the cores count of the old one that costed 999. And performance went up. So no, on Zen2 they were still on the cheap side
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#5790278 Posted on: 05/20/2020 11:02 AM
Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them.
I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform.
I wish I wasn't right.
I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.
Define "skyrocketed". 2990WX had "$53" per core and 3960X "$58", while the W-3265 "$140".
And 3960X is faster than all of them.
So price wise is absolute bargain. And if you do not like TR4 platform, there is still the 3950X.....
Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them.
I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform.
I wish I wasn't right.
I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.
Define "skyrocketed". 2990WX had "$53" per core and 3960X "$58", while the W-3265 "$140".
And 3960X is faster than all of them.
So price wise is absolute bargain. And if you do not like TR4 platform, there is still the 3950X.....
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Threadripper prices skyrocketed as soon as Intel did not have answer on them.
I'm affraid same can happen to AM4 platform.
I wish I wasn't right.
I believe as you have mentioned the market share will be theirs main goal still.
It wasn't related to AMD, rather the resalers were to blame. Prices increased due to insanely high demand for Threadripper products, the same goes for Ryzen CPU's. Once the supply was able to catch up prices settled down. At least that was the case locally.
These are Engineering Samples :p
4.6Ghz on them is huge thing, Zen 2 ES A0 had 4.2 boost clock.
Slap on top of it better IPC and we have a massive performance boost.