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Xbox Series S Lockhart would have 7.5GB of usable ram and a 4 TFLOPs GPU
the Xbox Series X development kit brings a mode that allows simulating the Xbox Series S "Lockhart", and that mode is sharing some specifications that the budget-friendly alternative of the new generation of Microsoft is going to offer.
By activating the dev mode, the GPU lists itself at roughly 4 TFLOPs with a maximum of 7.5GB of usable RAM. The Xbox Series X has a 12 TFLOPs GPU and 13.5GB of usable RAM In addition, its CPU has a lower frequency, although there are no details of how much that exactly is. There was also no mention of how many CPU cores are active.
Most games with this console would target 1080p. Whether Ray-Tracing will be supported is not mentioned, older reports indicated that it would. For now, there are no official details about the Xbox Series S, maybe we'll see an announcement soon though, possibly at the next Microsoft event to be held in July.
Mock-up comparison, Xbox Series S render by Jiveduder
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#5804109 Posted on: 06/28/2020 07:46 PM
You are comparing PC with console hardware.
GPU wise it should be more powerful than the Xbox one X (at same tflops RDNA1 >> CGN), since the Xbox one X could run RDR2 at native 4k at 30fps with medium - low detail, this console could probably run it at 1080p 60fps with medium- high. For a 300 USD (??) console I personally don't think it is too shabby.
Okay let’s assume RDNA2 has the performance per Tflop of Turing. It’s still less than 1650 super performance.
You are comparing PC with console hardware.
GPU wise it should be more powerful than the Xbox one X (at same tflops RDNA1 >> CGN), since the Xbox one X could run RDR2 at native 4k at 30fps with medium - low detail, this console could probably run it at 1080p 60fps with medium- high. For a 300 USD (??) console I personally don't think it is too shabby.
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#5804110 Posted on: 06/28/2020 07:47 PM
If Lockhart's GPU has the same features (Ray Tracing, VRS, Mesh Shading, etc) as the Series X's GPU and it's powerful enough to provide the same experience (framerate, graphical settings) at 1080p then it doesn't matter what is the equivalent PC GPU because it will achieve what it was designed to do, provide a Next Gen experience for 1080p TV owners. On paper, a 4 TF GPU sounds like it could provide the same experience on 1080p as a 12 TF GPU on 4K.
Okay let’s assume RDNA2 has the performance per Tflop of Turing. It’s still less than 1650 super performance.
If Lockhart's GPU has the same features (Ray Tracing, VRS, Mesh Shading, etc) as the Series X's GPU and it's powerful enough to provide the same experience (framerate, graphical settings) at 1080p then it doesn't matter what is the equivalent PC GPU because it will achieve what it was designed to do, provide a Next Gen experience for 1080p TV owners. On paper, a 4 TF GPU sounds like it could provide the same experience on 1080p as a 12 TF GPU on 4K.
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#5804112 Posted on: 06/28/2020 07:57 PM
When one console costs 1/2 of other, person has to be bit on imbecility side to believe they are the same.
I see what MS did and while smart, very deceitful, why? Well, they brag about specs and performance and most users don't know the difference between the systems. Meaning they will buy the series S based on the idea that its the Series X performance. I know this because so many think they have an Xbox one x but have a one s. I know so many who don't know the difference between PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro. Heck, lots of people I talk to, think a computer is good based on the hard drive size.
When one console costs 1/2 of other, person has to be bit on imbecility side to believe they are the same.
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#5804140 Posted on: 06/28/2020 11:00 PM
Not sure how something like this is going to survive. Why the hell would anybody want this I have no idea. At some point Sony will be blowing the door off PS4s for 199 or whatever they have planned.
Most people want a better system, and if the choices are discless PS5 for 399-500 or this shitty thing for 300 people aren't going to be stupid with their money unless they are really dumb. Doubtful many people buy onto this hype.
If Lockhart's GPU has the same features (Ray Tracing, VRS, Mesh Shading, etc) as the Series X's GPU and it's powerful enough to provide the same experience (framerate, graphical settings) at 1080p then it doesn't matter what is the equivalent PC GPU because it will achieve what it was designed to do, provide a Next Gen experience for 1080p TV owners. On paper, a 4 TF GPU sounds like it could provide the same experience on 1080p as a 12 TF GPU on 4K.
You aren't getting raytracing and advanced anything on this system lmao. Do the math bud.
I would like to make an honest, yet deeply impassioned plea for fellow Guru's to stop posting videos from these people...they are extremely biased and do not conduct proper multi-variant testing. If you want a technical analysis of something:
ASK HILBERT TO GET INVOLVED!
Thank you for listening.
Eurogamer were always Xbox shills. DF isn't too bad anymore, but they are usually fairly on point yet definitely have issues when doing some comparisons.
Lockhart will open up the vast market of people with 1080p TV's - 4K gaming TV's are still too expensive unless you're willing to compromise on features. eg LG promised a 'full' HDMI2.1 upgrade for their last two OLED generations but now say 'almost full' HDMI2.1 spec - I bought 65" B9 after they enabled g-sync support and promised full 2.1 support
Microsoft also have the xCloud, if Lockhart can output 4k maybe it can offload some compute to the cloud - or worst case just stream 4K games like Geforce Cloud.
It's not opening up anything to anybody. A 200 dollar PS4 will put this thing in a coffin. And Sony knows they probably don't even have to do that.
Not sure how something like this is going to survive. Why the hell would anybody want this I have no idea. At some point Sony will be blowing the door off PS4s for 199 or whatever they have planned.
Most people want a better system, and if the choices are discless PS5 for 399-500 or this shitty thing for 300 people aren't going to be stupid with their money unless they are really dumb. Doubtful many people buy onto this hype.
If Lockhart's GPU has the same features (Ray Tracing, VRS, Mesh Shading, etc) as the Series X's GPU and it's powerful enough to provide the same experience (framerate, graphical settings) at 1080p then it doesn't matter what is the equivalent PC GPU because it will achieve what it was designed to do, provide a Next Gen experience for 1080p TV owners. On paper, a 4 TF GPU sounds like it could provide the same experience on 1080p as a 12 TF GPU on 4K.
You aren't getting raytracing and advanced anything on this system lmao. Do the math bud.
I would like to make an honest, yet deeply impassioned plea for fellow Guru's to stop posting videos from these people...they are extremely biased and do not conduct proper multi-variant testing. If you want a technical analysis of something:
ASK HILBERT TO GET INVOLVED!
Thank you for listening.
Eurogamer were always Xbox shills. DF isn't too bad anymore, but they are usually fairly on point yet definitely have issues when doing some comparisons.
Lockhart will open up the vast market of people with 1080p TV's - 4K gaming TV's are still too expensive unless you're willing to compromise on features. eg LG promised a 'full' HDMI2.1 upgrade for their last two OLED generations but now say 'almost full' HDMI2.1 spec - I bought 65" B9 after they enabled g-sync support and promised full 2.1 support
Microsoft also have the xCloud, if Lockhart can output 4k maybe it can offload some compute to the cloud - or worst case just stream 4K games like Geforce Cloud.
It's not opening up anything to anybody. A 200 dollar PS4 will put this thing in a coffin. And Sony knows they probably don't even have to do that.
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Okay let’s assume RDNA2 has the performance per Tflop of Turing. It’s still less than 1650 super performance.