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Xbox Series S could have a portable form factor, SoC would be fabbed at 5nm
And that news is derived from Matt Hargett, who worked for several months as a lead engineer on the Playstation 5 team. he has made some bold statements about the Xbox Series S in response to a tweet from Tom Warren who tweeted about it's 20 CUs in that console.
According to Hargett's tweet, the console's SOC is likely fabbed at 5nm instead of 7nm. The console itself could get a portable form factor unlike the bigger size of the Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X. With the SoC fabbed at 5nm, it is likely to generate less heat gets smaller cooling or a need for it, and a smaller form factor. It is suggested that it might look similar to the Xbox One S Digital Edition, being small in size and making it easy to take to a friend's to play with, or something like that.
According to rumours, the Xbox Series S will be announced at the Xbox 20/20 event in August, so it still takes about a month and a half to see it. There we will know if all these rumours end up being true or not. Meanwhile, we recommend taking all the information with tweezers since they are rumours.
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#5806109 Posted on: 07/06/2020 01:45 AM
TVs have improved soo much this last few years, meanwhile on monitor land its all LCD with the usual mud coat, 1440p still expensive and 4k almost not a thing
a lot of TVs are even doing 120hz and adaptive sync for like no extra charge compared to models lacking that, its a matter of time pc users stop wasting money on second tier screens just because they are called "monitors"
the way things are going, wouldnt surprise me if at some point buying a monitor is as silly as buying "computer speakers"
TVs have improved soo much this last few years, meanwhile on monitor land its all LCD with the usual mud coat, 1440p still expensive and 4k almost not a thing
a lot of TVs are even doing 120hz and adaptive sync for like no extra charge compared to models lacking that, its a matter of time pc users stop wasting money on second tier screens just because they are called "monitors"
the way things are going, wouldnt surprise me if at some point buying a monitor is as silly as buying "computer speakers"
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#5806110 Posted on: 07/06/2020 01:46 AM
Sadly the jump to 4K was always going to be horrible for gaming, going from 1080p consoles to 4k is an insane jump in performance, considering previous generations were no where near that jump. Now 720p is kinda low, but a 1080p machine is perfectly fine for a lot of people, specially thoughs on a budget.
The bigger issue is yeah they are going to save on the console. But game prices are now going up so that will screw people over anyway. portable sounds somewhat interesting, though I have always preferred to game from home rather than outside.
Why would they buy a brand new TV just for their game console when nothing else they do is 4k.
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hahahahahaha... not me
cough...
But in all seriousness people who are casual with tech will just get the best thing for the time that they can afford and then hold it for 5-10 years or till it breaks. Nothing wrong with this per say, and for many they don't know what they are missing becasue they haven't a clue.
My parents bought a new TV because it was bigger than the last one, but the colors were all faded and washed out. But they could not see it, just looked normal to them. If you have never seen a good high end 4k OLED then that 1080 plasma in the front room far as they are concerned is the best thing. Ignorance is bliss and good on the wallet
Sadly the jump to 4K was always going to be horrible for gaming, going from 1080p consoles to 4k is an insane jump in performance, considering previous generations were no where near that jump. Now 720p is kinda low, but a 1080p machine is perfectly fine for a lot of people, specially thoughs on a budget.
The bigger issue is yeah they are going to save on the console. But game prices are now going up so that will screw people over anyway. portable sounds somewhat interesting, though I have always preferred to game from home rather than outside.
Why would they buy a brand new TV just for their game console when nothing else they do is 4k.
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hahahahahaha... not me
cough... But in all seriousness people who are casual with tech will just get the best thing for the time that they can afford and then hold it for 5-10 years or till it breaks. Nothing wrong with this per say, and for many they don't know what they are missing becasue they haven't a clue.
My parents bought a new TV because it was bigger than the last one, but the colors were all faded and washed out. But they could not see it, just looked normal to them. If you have never seen a good high end 4k OLED then that 1080 plasma in the front room far as they are concerned is the best thing. Ignorance is bliss and good on the wallet
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#5806111 Posted on: 07/06/2020 01:50 AM
TVs have improved soo much this last few years, meanwhile on monitor land its all LCD with the usual mud coat, 1440p still expensive and 4k almost not a thing
a lot of TVs are even doing 120hz and adaptive sync for like no extra charge compared to models lacking that, its a matter of time pc users stop wasting money on second tier screens just because they are called "monitors"
the way things are going, wouldnt surprise me if at some point buying a monitor is as silly as buying "computer speakers"
Yeah monitors haven't changed in a long long time, I bought my 1440p 144hz monitor a good 5/6 years ago, and they still refresh and bring it out year in year out with maybe a few software changes but often the same or similar panel. Isn't like the cost dropped either and there has been no great evolution with monitors like we used to see. TV's went and caught up and have flown by, OLED gives insane response times, can now get 120hz 4k with HDR. and sure we have a monitor by asus that does that, but you can't have all the features and if you do its like 98hz max i believe and used to cost a good 3-4k.
I'm hoping with DP 2.0 and HDMI 2.1 coming out, this might change and we get a good amount of evolution in that space. Monitors sadly have lost a lot of perks, and are often far to expensive for their price tag on what they offer in return
TVs have improved soo much this last few years, meanwhile on monitor land its all LCD with the usual mud coat, 1440p still expensive and 4k almost not a thing
a lot of TVs are even doing 120hz and adaptive sync for like no extra charge compared to models lacking that, its a matter of time pc users stop wasting money on second tier screens just because they are called "monitors"
the way things are going, wouldnt surprise me if at some point buying a monitor is as silly as buying "computer speakers"
Yeah monitors haven't changed in a long long time, I bought my 1440p 144hz monitor a good 5/6 years ago, and they still refresh and bring it out year in year out with maybe a few software changes but often the same or similar panel. Isn't like the cost dropped either and there has been no great evolution with monitors like we used to see. TV's went and caught up and have flown by, OLED gives insane response times, can now get 120hz 4k with HDR. and sure we have a monitor by asus that does that, but you can't have all the features and if you do its like 98hz max i believe and used to cost a good 3-4k.
I'm hoping with DP 2.0 and HDMI 2.1 coming out, this might change and we get a good amount of evolution in that space. Monitors sadly have lost a lot of perks, and are often far to expensive for their price tag on what they offer in return
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#5806113 Posted on: 07/06/2020 02:01 AM
" being small in size and making it easy to take to a friend's to play with, or something like that."
The last I did that I took my SNES to my friends house who had a Genesis so we could compare which version of Mortal Kombat 2 was better. The SNES was the clear winner.
" being small in size and making it easy to take to a friend's to play with, or something like that."
The last I did that I took my SNES to my friends house who had a Genesis so we could compare which version of Mortal Kombat 2 was better. The SNES was the clear winner.
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To be fair, 4K TVs are super cheap. Why there are even 1080p displays out there (above 32 inches anyways) as kinda crazy. And the idea that someone will spend $300 or more on a console, but not spend the same on a 4k tv (heck i see 43" 4k tvs for $170, not saying they are...good...but still) does seem a bit....odd.
People who can't afford to upgrade their older 1080p tv are likely not able to afford a new console of any kind, as well.
Realistically this S console will be for parents and grandparents who have no idea or care in the world for the differences, and will get the cheaper one and call it good for their kids.
Plenty of people will spend 1000-3000 bucks on a TV but they'll refuse to upgrade no matter what for the next 8 years. Because the TV is name brand and it still works. Why would they buy a brand new TV just for their game console when nothing else they do is 4k.
I wouldn't want a bargain bin 4k TV, most of what you're going to be viewing is going to be resized by that TV and look sub par.