Windows 'Threshold Microsoft's plan to win over Windows 7 users
Over at ZDnet Mary Jo wrote an intersting article on Microsoft's main goals with 'Threshold,' the next major version of Windows, is to win over Windows 7 hold-outs. According her this update arrive around Spring 2015. One of the main goals of this new release, which may or may not be called Windows 9, will be to bring Windows 7 users back to the fold.
Threshold will reportedly have lots of new features specifically aimed at desktops users and will reportedly have a different look based on your hardware type:
And not too surprisingly, one of the Microsoft Operating Systems Group's main goals in designing and developing the coming operating system (OS) release — which may or may not ultimately be branded as "Windows 9" — is to try to make it more palatable to hold-out Windows 7 users.
In order to do this, Microsoft is working on including in Threshold lots of new features specifically aimed at "desktop" users, meaning those who interact primarily with their Windows computing device from a desktop or laptop PC with mouse/keyboard and optional touch.
With Windows 8.1 Update, Microsoft officials designed Windows around a set of profiles based on the hardware specifications of the devices in use. Certain devices running Windows 8.1 Update include Power and Search buttons on the Metro-style Start screen; others don't. Some of those running Windows 8.1 Update have their machines start up by default in the Desktop/Win32 legacy environment, while others on touch/mobile-first devices start up in the Metro-Style Start Menu by default.
According to my sources, Microsoft will continue in this vein with Windows Threshold. The Threshold OS will look and work differently based on hardware type.
Users running Threshold on a desktop/laptop will get a SKU, or version, that puts the Windows Desktop (for running Win32/legacy apps) front and center. Two-in-one devices, like the Lenovo Yoga or Surface Pro, will support switching between the Metro-Style mode and the Windowed mode, based on whether or not keyboards are connected or disconnected.
The combined Phone/Tablet SKU of Threshold won't have a Desktop environment at all, but still will support apps running side by side, my sources are reconfirming. This "Threshold Mobile" SKU will work on ARM-based Windows Phones (not just Lumias), ARM-based Windows tablets and, I believe, Intel-Atom-based tablets.
One of Microsoft's primary missions with Threshold is to try to undo the usability mistakes made with Windows 8 for those who prefer and/or are stuck with devices that are not touch-first and for which keyboard/mouse use is of central importance.
The Desktop/laptop SKU of Threshold will include, as previously rumored, the Mini-Start menu — a new version of the traditional Microsoft Start menu, an early concept of which Microsoft showed off at the company's Build developers conference in April. It also will include the ability to run Metro-Style/Windows Store apps in windows on the Desktop. Will it turn off completely the Metro-Style Start screen with its live-tile interface, as Neowin is reporting, and make the tiled Start screen a toggleable option from the Mini Start menu? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised.
(Update: It's worth pointing out the Mini Start menu is expected to be customizable. Users will be able to include Metro-Style apps or remove all Metro Style apps/tiles from the menu so that only Desktop apps are included in the Mini Start menu — either as tiles or in list form.)
Between now and Threshold: What's next?
Before Threshold is released next spring, Microsoft is expected to deliver a public preview of the Threshold release, most likely in the fall of 2014, my sources say.
And before that, Microsoft will deliver a second and final update for Windows 8.1. Since Microsoft officials decided earlier this year to make the Mini Start Menu part of Threshold instead of Update 2, there's not a whole lot of new features of note coming in Update 2. There may be some UI adjustments and tweaks, but nothing hugely noticeable, my sources claim.
Windows 8.1 Update 2 should be code complete any time now and will be locked down about two weeks before August Patch Tuesday, my sources say. (August Patch Tuesday is on August 12.) Microsoft may opt to not make a big deal out of Update 2 and just push it out quietly as part of the set of August patches, I hear.
The Microsoft OS team is hoping to get as many Windows 7 users moved to Windows 7 Service Pack 1 and Windows 8 users to Windows 8.1 Update in preparation for (hopefully) getting them to move to Threshold once it is out. It's still early in the Windows development cycle for Microsoft to have decided on packaging, pricing and distribution, but my sources say, at this point, that Windows Threshold is looking like it could be free to all Windows 8.1 Update, and maybe even Windows 7 Service Pack 1, users.
Microsoft is basically "done" with Windows 8.x. Regardless of how usable or functional it is or isn't, it has become Microsoft's Vista 2.0 — something from which Microsoft needs to distance itself, perception-wise. At this point, Microsoft is going full-steam-ahead toward Threshold and will do its best to differentiate that OS release from Windows 8.
Microsoft might disable Live Tiles in a Future Windows Desktop versions - 07/01/2014 08:32 AM
Microsoft would be planning the remove the Live Tiles start screen from Windows for PCs in a future version of Windows. The Windows version for tablets and hybrids would still keep that function of co...
Windows 8.1 Update 2 Could Debut in July - 06/30/2014 08:50 AM
The Russian super-leaker Wzor, who by the way is uncannily correct in his predictions, has pegged announcements on both operating systems coming on July 13-17 at the Worldwide Partner Conference. Th...
Start Menu May Arrive in Windows 8.1 Update 3 - 06/27/2014 08:57 AM
Read .. more delays. Microsoft’s Terry Myerson revealed that the beloved Start Menu would return to the Windows platform in the near future, but didn’t specify an actual release d...
Point of View launches Intel Atom Based Windows 8.1 tablets - 06/24/2014 03:01 PM
Point of View launches a new tablet line based on the latest Intel Atom platform and Microsoft Windows 8.1 Operating system. In the new Mobii Windows tablet line there are three models available: The ...
Windows 8.1 Update 2 Coming - 06/23/2014 08:21 AM
Windows 8.1 Update 2 is getting close to a release and may hit the RTM (release-to-manufacturing) phase in July already, so Microsoft could launch it in August or September. The new update will bring ...
Senior Member
Posts: 17909
Joined: 2012-05-18
I really like win8.1, its perfect now the way it is, metro type of system is great as well.
Use to be a diehard win7 user and the first time I saw win8 I was like wdf is this crap, no way..
But then after 2-4 weeks of usage it was just great, now with win8.1 proper start button its a true win.
Imo it would be stupid to kill this type in next release, although I saw that "leaker" said it will feature both styles, so I guess all isn't lost yet.
Also it might be free update for both win7 & win 8.1 users? fine by me

Senior Member
Posts: 1309
Joined: 2003-09-14
Rigghhhhtttt..... The first paragraph, I was sort of with you. Then you continued on and showed the world your true colors as a illogical Microsoft hater.


Oh well, enjoy your time with Ubuntu, don't let the door hit you in the butt.

Illogical ? Cheers for the "Wanker"

I work in the IT dept of our company, and have to deal with lots of peoples problems.
One I don't need, is for people being given Win8 laptops and Tablets, when they have no clue how to use them. You obviously don't understand what that can do to a company...
Something like a huge amount of lost time and work, no-one in the tech support team knows how to find the regular workarounds and processes we have set up, because Microsoft, in their great wisdom, changed the place and functionality of much of Windows 8 compared to previous versions of Windows.
I'm very pissed at Microsoft because they've just made my job a f**kload harder, is going to cost the company a lot of money in getting people up to scratch with Win8, including me, and that isn't cheap.
Do you know how much it costs for a course on using and repairing Win8 ?
Try that for a few thousand people. Get it yet ?
We don't all spend our time just "using" the OS, some of us have to go a little bit further.
Microsoft is doing this to themselves. I'm not the only Tech that is bitching about Win8, most of us are, because of the crap its causing in businesses.
Our F-ing network routers had to have their software updated to allow Win8.1 users to acces the Wifi !!
Not being a US company, or in the US, we should have jumped from XP to Linux. Because of the decideing powers not understanding the security implications etc, they went Microsoft 100%, when we were 90% ready to go to Linux.
I never said I was going to use Ubuntu, just that I installed it for people who couldn't afford a new PC and a new OS. It does what they need.
I'm not entirely decided which version i'd like to install, but i'll be checking out a few of them.
Are you an illogical Microsoft User ?

Junior Member
Posts: 16
Joined: 2014-07-04
win8 is a beta of win 8.1 and win 8.1 is a beta of next version and.....
Senior Member
Posts: 1821
Joined: 2011-10-09
Illogical ? Cheers for the "Wanker"

I work in the IT dept of our company, and have to deal with lots of peoples problems.
One I don't need, is for people being given Win8 laptops and Tablets, when they have no clue how to use them. You obviously don't understand what that can do to a company...
Something like a huge amount of lost time and work, no-one in the tech support team knows how to find the regular workarounds and processes we have set up, because Microsoft, in their great wisdom, changed the place and functionality of much of Windows 8 compared to previous versions of Windows.
I'm very pissed at Microsoft because they've just made my job a f**kload harder, is going to cost the company a lot of money in getting people up to scratch with Win8, including me, and that isn't cheap.
Do you know how much it costs for a course on using and repairing Win8 ?
Try that for a few thousand people. Get it yet ?
We don't all spend our time just "using" the OS, some of us have to go a little bit further.
Microsoft is doing this to themselves. I'm not the only Tech that is bitching about Win8, most of us are, because of the crap its causing in businesses.
Our F-ing network routers had to have their software updated to allow Win8.1 users to acces the Wifi !!
Not being a US company, or in the US, we should have jumped from XP to Linux. Because of the decideing powers not understanding the security implications etc, they went Microsoft 100%, when we were 90% ready to go to Linux.
I never said I was going to use Ubuntu, just that I installed it for people who couldn't afford a new PC and a new OS. It does what they need.
I'm not entirely decided which version i'd like to install, but i'll be checking out a few of them.
Are you an illogical Microsoft User ?

Senior Member
Posts: 1581
Joined: 2004-12-10
Something is wrong with that statement though. The Surface Pro 3 is billed as a laptop replacement so, what good would an $800 started price device be without a desktop? Perhaps they are speaking of the $100 tablets only?