Windows 9 could Ship in April 2015 already
Paul Thurrotts supersite for Windows talks about Windows 9 shipping in April 2015 already. At the BUILD developer conference in April 2014, Microsoft will discuss its vision for the future of Windows, including a year-off release codenamed "Threshold" that will most likely be called Windows 9. Here's what I know about the next major release of Windows.
As a kind of recap, we know that Microsoft will update Windows 8.1 in 2014, first with a service pack/feature pack-type update called Update 1 (or GDR1 internally). I wrote a bit about this update recently in Windows 8.1 Update 1 (Very Early) Preview but the expectation is that it will ship in April 2014 alongside Windows Phone 8.1, the development of which Microsoft will soon complete.
Also in April, of course, is BUILD 2014. That show will hit just weeks after Microsoft completes its corporate reorganization and will surprisingly be very much focused on Windows Phone and Xbox, according to my sources. But I think Windows watchers will agree that the biggest news from the show will be an announcement about Microsoft's plans for the next major Windows version, codenamed "Threshold."
I previously wrote about Threshold in Microsoft to Take Windows to the "Threshold", Further Changes Coming in Windows "Threshold" and Big Changes Are Coming to Windows. This is the release my sources previously pegged as being the one that will see the return of the Start menu and the ability to run Metro-style apps on the desktop alongside desktop applications.
But Threshold is more important than any specific updates. Windows 8 is tanking harder than Microsoft is comfortable discussing in public, and the latest release, Windows 8.1, which is a substantial and free upgrade with major improvements over the original release, is in use on less than 25 million PCs at the moment. That's a disaster, and Threshold needs to strike a better balance between meeting the needs of over a billion traditional PC users while enticing users to adopt this new Windows on new types of personal computing devices. In short, it needs to be everything that Windows 8 is not.
Here's what I've learned about Threshold.
Windows 9. To distance itself from the Windows 8 debacle, Microsoft is currently planning to drop the Windows 8 name and brand this next release as Windows 9. That could change, but that's the current thinking.
BUILD vision announcement. In case it's not obvious that the Sinofsky era is over, Microsoft will use BUILD to provide its first major "vision" announcement for Windows since, yes, Longhorn in 2003. Don't expect anything that grandiose, but the Windows team believes it needs to hit a happy middle ground between the KGB-style secrecy of the Sinofsky camp and the freewheeling "we can do it all" days that preceded that. As important, the firm understands that customers need something to be excited about.
No bits at BUILD. Microsoft will not be providing developers with an early alpha release of "Threshold" at BUILD, and for a good reason: The product won't even begin development until later that month. Right now, Microsoft is firming up which features it intends to deliver in this release.
Metro 2.0. Maturing and fixing the "Metro" design language used by Windows will be a major focus area of Threshold. It's not clear what changes are coming, but it's safe to assume that a windowed mode that works on the desktop is part of that.
Three milestones. Microsoft expects to deliver three milestone releases of "Threshold" before its final release. It's unclear what these releases will be called (Beta, Release Candidate, etc.) or which if any will be provided to the public.
April 2015 release. Microsoft is currently targeting April 2015 for the release of Windows 9 "Threshold."
In some ways, the most interesting thing about Threshold is how it recasts Windows 8 as the next Vista. It's an acknowledgment that what came before didn't work, and didn't resonate with customers. And though Microsoft will always be able to claim that Windows 9 wouldn't have been possible without the important foundational work they had done first with Windows 8—just as was the case with Windows 7 and Windows Vista—there's no way to sugarcoat this. Windows 8 has set back Microsoft, and Windows, by years, and possibly for good.
These things don't happen in isolation—the big and slow Vista arrived inauspiciously just as netbooks were taking off and Windows 8 arrived just as media tablets changed everything—and it's fair to say that the technology world of today barely resembles that of 2006, creating new challenges for Windows. Threshold will target this new world. It could very well be a make or break release.
I'll let you know when I've learned more.
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^^ Tits or GTFO.
The strange UI they built was a major complaint about W8. Getting that out of the way will alone remove people's resistance towards it.
I disliked the implementation of the MS account in 8.1. It provides me with no value at all and this is despite having an active MS account. I tried the Skype app because I thought it could be better than the desktop app but no, I couldn't even sign in the app without using my outlook account on the entire PC. What if my parents wanted to use it? :-/ Shifting settings from CP to PC-S .. ughh. Instead of allowing both to co-exist for users of both the UI's let us force desktop guys to use PC S and tablet guys to frequent the desktop side on their touchscreens. Then there's that ugly sidebar which appears when you click the networking icon on the tray. I hope this non-sense is fixed as well as none of this can be fixed by simply installing Start8. Can go on and on about this failure of an OS ...
It looks like this new Windows team headed by Myerson seems to have some sense in them. I initially dreaded it .. he's the Phone guy after all. I look forward to this release!
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Reading that almost makes me think that MS are trying to slowly introduce a 'One User per PC' to the world. Leave just enough options in there for multi users, but hide them and make them difficult to understand, that way when MS release a report of features to be removed, they'll actually be able to say with a straight face that the option for mutli-users was barely used bar a few, as such they'll then remove the multi-user options altogether.
Cue - More sales, looks better to stock holders, when infact its actually just a forced inflation of units sold by forcing a one user only policy.
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Brilliant pic, Satin_Knight!
But I guess I'll be staying with Windows 7 for a while yet.
The only thing that interested me about Windows 8 was the fact that I could play JetPack Joyride on a PC.
Hardly enough of a reason to keep it on my rig for long.
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Reading that almost makes me think that MS are trying to slowly introduce a 'One User per PC' to the world. Leave just enough options in there for multi users, but hide them and make them difficult to understand, that way when MS release a report of features to be removed, they'll actually be able to say with a straight face that the option for mutli-users was barely used bar a few, as such they'll then remove the multi-user options altogether.
Cue - More sales, looks better to stock holders, when infact its actually just a forced inflation of units sold by forcing a one user only policy.
My pc's have always been one user same for anyone in my family tho.
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I fear for my hobby, preferred platform, rant of sorts a head, so skip if not interested.
Ill keep my opinions of the OS until i've actually tried it this time, unlike i did with 8.
Though i will say that i don't like the way that there is all this focus of bringing the "smart phone" environment to the desktop pc, why?:
First,
Desktop pc's are used for either the office environment (so get off the app store and get back to work) or for gaming/pc enthusiasts of who are clued up enough not to waste time with such gimmicks.
Second:
No average pc user goes out and buys a PC/HTPC for watching movies, these people either dont know of such a thing, own a console/dvd/blu-ray player or have a laptop that is used for facebook, work/school and they got introduced to VLC by a friend of a friend who's son works in IT.
Third:
The whole idea of full screen apps on a pc is offensive to me, I feel like this is the equivalent of having fullscreen only folders (eg My videos) of which you can only have one such folder open/on-screen at a time, so to copy and paste from one place to another, would be the same as whats required to do on an smart phone, no dragging an dropping, but having to manually navigate through each folder back and forth just to copy and paste.
I know that last part isnt mentioned in the article, its just something i fear is going to become a reality, an OS that looks prettier than being functional.
This species is really annoying, it caters for the mainstream of who dont actually understand the things they buy, but if looks pretty, they throw money at it, then they complain that it doesn't have the features they said they didnt want, and instead complain about getting what the wanted.
If you design your product for stupid people, you risk ending up with a stupid company and product.