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Guru3D.com » News » Windows 8.1 with Avast and KB3000850 equals bricked OS

Windows 8.1 with Avast and KB3000850 equals bricked OS

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 11/25/2014 10:04 AM | source: | 58 comment(s)
Windows 8.1 with Avast and KB3000850 equals bricked OS

Security software outfit Avast are trying to figure out why the combination of recent Windows patches and updates to the latter company's software are breaking PCs. Hordes of users have found that their PCs, especially those running Windows 8 and 8.1, grind to a halt after they apply both Microsoft's recent KB3000850 update rollup and Avast's latest automatic updates.

Some users report their PCs won't boot, or take forever to apply patches. The Avast forums record many users venting their spleens. Microsoft's not immune either: a Redmond thread titled Major issues with KB3000850 includes plenty of people wondering why the company issued an update incompatible with third-party software.

That criticism may not be entirely fair, as an Avast staffer has posted the following explanation for the mess:

“We have been able to simulate the problem in our lab and I think we fixed this issue. This Windows updates calls new memory related functions which are not fully compatible with Avast.”
The poster, by the name of “pk”, promised an update to remedy the situation and later reported that the patch was issued last Friday.

A few forum members seem, however, to be having trouble even with the automated patch, reporting a variety of glitches including very slow downloads of the KB3000850 update on machines running Avast.

Whatever the cause, a fair few people are rather upset with both Avast and Microsoft, with the latter company most often felt to be in the wrong.

Microsoft forum moderator Rohit Siddegowda offers suggestions for overcoming the issues created by KB3000850 here







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xIcarus
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#4966591 Posted on: 11/25/2014 12:50 PM
Common sense > Any AV software ever produced.

AV companies want you to believe that the internet is such a dangerous place but it really isn't. They are just trying to justify the existence of their snake oil grade software. Malware has ceased being an issue when M$ got their **** together and released windows 7.

No, windows security essentials only protects you from the weakest forms of malware, generally those that attempt to auto-install themselves whenever you get a file from a website. A targetted attack will be pretty much ignored. Take the following situation: you have a chat application. What if the chat application can take windows powershell commands and pass it to the target? It is not hard to embed something like this into any socket-based program you create. But it's extremely powerful.

The only way you can prevent such attacks is by behavior analysis, like many av software have. There's no way in hell windows is going to reject that piece of software. And from my own personal conclusions by testing 'funny' software that I created, avast and bitdefender seem to understand when some software is malicious better than their competition.
And funny part is you don't even need elevated permissions for most dangerous tasks.

XP-200
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#4966612 Posted on: 11/25/2014 01:17 PM
Figures, i just bought 8.1 pro as well. lol

masterboy
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#4966613 Posted on: 11/25/2014 01:18 PM
Antiviruses are for dumb users, there are better way of protection. Avast,AVG,Avira, etc. are **** antiviruses if u get a bad virus it will evenetually kill these antiviruses...

xIcarus
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#4966630 Posted on: 11/25/2014 02:03 PM
Please try killing avast from outside of it and tell me what happens.

Fox2232
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#4966644 Posted on: 11/25/2014 02:26 PM
I've been using 3rd party AV for so many years back in the day.
for last 8 ~ 10 years, I install every 6 months free portable nod32. Scan once everything an uninstall as it finds nothing. same goes for other AVs.
I have no use for real time behavioral analysis, I have use for low latency and high performance instead.

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