Windows 8.1 start buttons leaks, looks familiar

#4610788 Posted on: 06/03/2013 08:46 PM

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I don't understand why people are so much against choice. When you remove Linux from the picture, Windows compared to OSX has been a bastion of customization options and backwards compatibility- being able to install Windows 3, and move though the upgrade cycle all the way to the newest OS believe it or not actually works. Up until Windows 7, we users had the choice to remove the new pin to taskbar and taskbar icon grouping if we did not like it, hell we could make the OS look like Win95 IF we wanted it to.

Knowing that history, is it that surprising that there is such a backlash when Windows 8 removes the long held idea that I can, with a few clicks, turn off DWM, turn off Metro, ect?
This is what I mean when I say MS is out of touch with people.
There is a reason during Windows 8 opening months had a slower adoption rate than Vista , and is now slowing losing it's install base with people retreating back to 7.

TL;DR- People don't like a giant corporation deciding for you how you should use your computer.

It didn't have a slower adoption rate than Vista. I can't believe people are still quoting that inaccurate trash. And it definitely isn't losing install base. Where the hell did you read that?

And no, the majority of people don't care about their OS, how it looks, how customization it is, etc. I can't think of a single person except maybe power users here on Guru3D that actually modified their OS in any way shape or form.

#4610887 Posted on: 06/03/2013 11:15 PM

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http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/windows_8_adoption_rate_falls_way_behind_windows_vista.html



You don't need to be a power user on 7 to enter taskbar properties and change buttons to never combine. Or right click the desktop properties and change to basic or classic. Whether or not you do these things is irrelevant, we have been rightly spoiled with such options- and now were not. Simple as that.

#4611230 Posted on: 06/04/2013 01:20 PM

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http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/windows_8_adoption_rate_falls_way_behind_windows_vista.html



You don't need to be a power user on 7 to enter taskbar properties and change buttons to never combine. Or right click the desktop properties and change to basic or classic. Whether or not you do these things is irrelevant, we have been rightly spoiled with such options- and now were not. Simple as that.

"Wanker" all you want. That article is bull**** and it's exactly what I was referring too when I said "inaccurate trash" and then you go and post it anyway. It was dismissed when it was published and yet people who clearly don't understand math keep posting it as if it's some type of ultimate weapon against Windows 8.

And no, you don't need to be a power user to do all that, it isn't complicated or difficult to figure it out. My point is no one does it. I don't know a single person out of the nearly 200+ people at my company that I support that actually customizes anything. And I'm not saying they shouldn't have those options to customize, they should for people that want it. What I'm saying is that its definitely not effecting sales of Windows 8.

The majority of people, vocal ones, are hating Windows 8 because everyone else is saying they hate it. 99% of those people haven't even tried it. Hell one person here, who I won't name, criticized the hell out of it when it first launched; then recently asked an extremely stupid question about the functionality of it's interface. A question that could have been answered by simply googling Windows 8 and looking at a screenshot of Metro. Which to me means not only was he bashing it without ever using it, but he never even seen a screenshot of the metro start page.

Does Windows 8 have numerous problems? Of course, I'll be the first to admit that I want to see things changed about it. But the outspoken backlash by people who call themselves enthusiasts either here, or on other tech forums, is nothing but a sham. It reeks of whiny bull**** and negativism.

#4611280 Posted on: 06/04/2013 03:05 PM

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If I could have, I would have. Buying a new laptop at the start of this year meant I was pretty much forced to go W8. All the W7 options had significantly worse specs or were overpriced or sold out. Now that I've used W8 for a few months, I actually regret buying the better specced laptop with W8 over buying a slower one with W7.

#4611443 Posted on: 06/04/2013 07:19 PM

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I'm still happily using windows 8 desktop and still feels quicker than win7 did on my laptop ... Just sayin.

The taskbar mirrored on both screens is a feature I wanted a few years back... I love the task bar grouping and everything.(as with win7)

lol i haven't reistalled windows 7 for nearly a year and a half, that's the longest installation for me, usually it was around the 6 month mark.

*snippped

still going fast, still top banana speed, love W7, will stick to it for as long as humanly possible, i hate useless start buttons.
Quoting something from last page but ...

I find this interesting, my last Vista ultimate installation on my E8500 build I had for 3 and 1/2 years before I upgraded my system and loaded win7. Now a year in and I don't have any reason to reinstall my system for another 2.5 - 3 years when I have reason to upgrade it.

I don't understand why people reload their OS so often, I've seen it in my company too, a lot of people just junking up their OS's and turning them into slosh ... I have no idea how they do it because I didn't even have it happen on VISTA!