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Windows 11 won't update after installation with unsupported CPUs
Users will be able to install Windows 11 on PCs with CPUs that are older than the operating system's official support, but they will not be able to get updates and driver upgrades. It's not clear why this is the case.
Even security updates may not be delivered to consumers who have Windows 11 installed on a computer that Microsoft does not officially support. Additionally, it pertains to feature upgrades as well as driver updates that may or may not be received. Older processors will not be supported at all by Windows Update in the future. Because there will be no official update, installing Windows 11 on an older PC can be accomplished by downloading and installing an ISO file on your own computer.
Due to the fact that Windows 11, in comparison to Windows 10, has relatively high system requirements, the problem arises. In the case of Intel, this applies to an Intel Core 7820HQ, an Intel Core of the eighth generation or newer, and for AMD, it applies to an AMD Zen 2 or newer processor. Additional requirements for the system include 4GB of RAM and 64GB of storage space, as well as a graphics card with DirectX 12 compatibility, as well as UEFI with Secure Boot and TPM 2.0. Windows 11 will be released in the fall of this year.
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#5942355 Posted on: 08/30/2021 03:52 PM
Some industrious guy/gal will be bored one day and find a "work around" to the WU issues on Win 11 with older cpus. Right now I have Win11 running on a Intel 5005u cpu with zero issues and updates regularly so it must be something they plan on instituting in the future.
Some industrious guy/gal will be bored one day and find a "work around" to the WU issues on Win 11 with older cpus. Right now I have Win11 running on a Intel 5005u cpu with zero issues and updates regularly so it must be something they plan on instituting in the future.
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#5942367 Posted on: 08/30/2021 04:22 PM
why even allow install if you won't update the software, leaving it more buggy and unstable... just block the instalation then or let them switch back to W10 IF this is the final decision.
why even allow install if you won't update the software, leaving it more buggy and unstable... just block the instalation then or let them switch back to W10 IF this is the final decision.
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#5942376 Posted on: 08/30/2021 05:03 PM
It's called a "hardware baseline". Linux did it years ago with kernel 2.4. I would say it's about time. They obviously set a baseline (CPUs with sideload attack mitigations, TPM, DX12 GPUs, solid state storage) that is necessary for them to have the thing being able to work in the future.
I understand what kind of perfect clickbait all these threads are, but if you don't have the hardware, you can still keep using Windows 10 which will be perfectly usable for the next half decade almost.
It's a little funny when you think about it:
Windows 10 was a nice overall evolution to Windows 7 and 8.1, yet people even today still vehemently refuse to upgrade.
Windows 11 overall doesn't seem to have many noteworthy improvements at all, yet people are upset that they can't upgrade.
Reminds me of cats that scratch at a door so you can let them through, but then you open it and they just walk the other direction. They don't really want to go through, they just want the option to do so.
It's called a "hardware baseline". Linux did it years ago with kernel 2.4. I would say it's about time. They obviously set a baseline (CPUs with sideload attack mitigations, TPM, DX12 GPUs, solid state storage) that is necessary for them to have the thing being able to work in the future.
I understand what kind of perfect clickbait all these threads are, but if you don't have the hardware, you can still keep using Windows 10 which will be perfectly usable for the next half decade almost.
It's a little funny when you think about it:
Windows 10 was a nice overall evolution to Windows 7 and 8.1, yet people even today still vehemently refuse to upgrade.
Windows 11 overall doesn't seem to have many noteworthy improvements at all, yet people are upset that they can't upgrade.
Reminds me of cats that scratch at a door so you can let them through, but then you open it and they just walk the other direction. They don't really want to go through, they just want the option to do so.
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#5942378 Posted on: 08/30/2021 05:06 PM
why even allow install if you won't update the software, leaving it more buggy and unstable... just block the instalation then or let them switch back to W10 IF this is the final decision.
Security updates might make it even more unstable if parts of them rely on TPM or instructions that aren't supported by older CPU's.
It's not like that MS forces anyone to upgrade to Windows 11, they keep Windows 10 alive for some years and even add some of the features to it that where announced as Windows 11 exclusive.
Windows 11 overall doesn't seem to have any noteworthy improvement at all, yet people are upset that they can't upgrade.
Both yes and no, Auto HDR which makes even HDR work seamless (really loving that feature, should have been there ages ago tbh.) and Direct Storage, besides a few other things that I personally don't care much about, other do want them Android apps and stuff though.
Although, Windows 10 will get both Auto HDR and Direct Storage, the latter with some limits though that gamers and average users should be fine with.
The settings menu also got some improvements that make it more logical, less diving into sub settings, although some could still be improved, think they should also put an split screen option button for HDR on one side and SDR on the other side in there instead of just posting a registry key on a blog.
why even allow install if you won't update the software, leaving it more buggy and unstable... just block the instalation then or let them switch back to W10 IF this is the final decision.
Security updates might make it even more unstable if parts of them rely on TPM or instructions that aren't supported by older CPU's.
It's not like that MS forces anyone to upgrade to Windows 11, they keep Windows 10 alive for some years and even add some of the features to it that where announced as Windows 11 exclusive.
Windows 11 overall doesn't seem to have any noteworthy improvement at all, yet people are upset that they can't upgrade.
Both yes and no, Auto HDR which makes even HDR work seamless (really loving that feature, should have been there ages ago tbh.) and Direct Storage, besides a few other things that I personally don't care much about, other do want them Android apps and stuff though.
Although, Windows 10 will get both Auto HDR and Direct Storage, the latter with some limits though that gamers and average users should be fine with.
The settings menu also got some improvements that make it more logical, less diving into sub settings, although some could still be improved, think they should also put an split screen option button for HDR on one side and SDR on the other side in there instead of just posting a registry key on a blog.
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Most nonsensical move ever from MS. No updates then why even allow it to be installed on older systems? What the hell is happening at MS?
It's called a "hardware baseline". Linux did it years ago with kernel 2.4. I would say it's about time. They obviously set a baseline (CPUs with sideload attack mitigations, TPM, DX12 GPUs, solid state storage) that is necessary for them to have the thing being able to work in the future.
I understand what kind of perfect clickbait all these threads are, but if you don't have the hardware, you can still keep using Windows 10 which will be perfectly usable for the next half decade almost.
Microsoft made Win11 more secure requiring TPM and Secure Boot
Microsoft also won't let you get security and drivers update for your old PC
Somehow I don't feel secure at all
You assume that you will be able to actually install the final ISO. I'm really curious on what they'll do about that.