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Windows 11 is up to 15 percent slower with AMD CPUs, fixes coming in October

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 10/07/2021 09:53 AM | source: tweakers | 70 comment(s)
Windows 11 is up to 15 percent slower with AMD CPUs, fixes coming in October

AMD acknowledges that Windows 11 is slower than Windows 10 on suitable AMD processors. This is due to issues with the L3 cache and the processor's thread distribution across cores. Microsoft and AMD are now working on fixes that will be available in October.

The L3 cache's latency is three times that of Windows 10. As a result, AMD cautions that applications that are sensitive to memory subsystem access time variances may operate slower than before. Sensitive applications may operate around three to five percent slower than they should. Certain programs, "such as those frequently used in esports," may perform 10 to 15% slower than they did on the previous OS.

The second issue is with CPPC2, which controls which threads are processed by which cores within the UEFI. With Windows 11, threads would no longer be processed automatically by the processor's fastest core. Performance degradation would be noticeable in particular for programs that rely on a single or a few threads. This issue would be most obvious in processors with eight or more cores and a TDP more than 65W.

While Windows updates are required for the L3 cache, AMD updates can resolve the CPPC2 issue. AMD has stated that both patches would be available in October. Affected users are recommended to continue using Windows 10 until then.

Windows 11 was released on Monday evening. On Tuesday, tweakers provided benchmarks for the new operating system. This already shown that the AMD CPU utilized in certain apps performed slower than the CPU used in Windows 10, although the differences were minimal in other applications.







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schilperoordbas
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#5952902 Posted on: 10/07/2021 03:40 PM
So that's what I've been noticing. I noticed that Windows 11 was really slow, even with an 5950x. Really bad that Windows 11 is released this way.

tunejunky
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#5952904 Posted on: 10/07/2021 03:46 PM
the time spent restoring my bricked laptop kept me from a clean install of win11.
boy am i glad as i run a 5950x
i'll wait for the insider update (gamma testing?)

kapu
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#5952905 Posted on: 10/07/2021 03:50 PM
You're asking this on an enthusiast forum :p people here buy 5950Xs and 3090s to run demos and benchmarks and never actually play videogames more demanding than Stardew Valley :p


And i thought enthusiast is about pushing the best out of your rig , W11 is not the best right now , any rational enthusiast will sit on W10 until W11 is patched enough :D

rl66
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#5952906 Posted on: 10/07/2021 03:50 PM
This is known for months as insiders reported it several times but M$/AMD didn't care..

It's not AMD's duty to fix an OS, even more when M$ is informed of the problem and seem to work on it.

Stormyandcold
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#5952910 Posted on: 10/07/2021 03:57 PM
Early tester here. In my many years of beta testing Windows, my main pain has always been audio drivers, specifically ASIO and vst plugins, activation programs etc. Nvidia were always quick to issue fixes, so, most graphical issues didn't last long.

Windows 11 did initially crap out audio-wise as my RME HDSPE AIO Pro suffered from audio degradation, no matter what I did (I made full reports to both MS and RME). This has now been fixed by RME with the latest Totalmix 1.75 (as of this post). So, it's took about 3months to fix the audio issues, which imho is the fastest I've experienced, and that's going all the way back to beta testing WinXP.

Main changes for me is the taskbar positioning, copy/paste etc icons and some UI stuff, but, in all honesty it's Windows. There's really nothing dramatically different here for the end-user. I can honestly say I could be using W10 or W11, it really doesn't matter much as long as it runs my apps, games and music making plugins I'm happy.

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