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Windows 10 version 1809 sees another data loss issue
Though the impact this time is far less extensive, a new bug is plaguing users of the new the October Update of Windows 10, files again disappear. The updated OS seems to be making mistakes when extracting zip files, it quietly overwrites or even deletes files.
Normally, when unpacking zip files you see a pop-up to agree to overwrite files. However, due to the error, this message does not occur and files are overwritten unnoticed. In addition, there reports that unpacking does not go well, both the original file disappears and the newly extracted files as well.
Another report, this time from a thread on Ask Woody, suggests that it may also happen that the same operation fails silently by not overwriting files at all and not prompting users about it. A third report on Reddit suggests that drag and drop operations from compressed folders to others appear broken as well. The copy "appears" to happen but when the user checks the files in the destination folder, files have not been updated. All three reports suggest that some zip-related behavior is broken in the operating system. The users did not reveal if they used the built-in zip functionality or a third-party application; it seems likely that the bug affects only Windows 10's built-in zip functionality and not third-party programs such as Bandizip, WinRar, or 7-Zip. Comments confirm the assumption: the issue affects only the built-in Zip functionality of Windows 10 version 1809 and not that of third-party application.
It seems that only the built-in zip function of Windows is affected, so the advice is to use a third-party program until there is a solution.
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#5599032 Posted on: 10/22/2018 03:53 PM
I've been waiting for 1809 for the updated DirectX and RT functions so now it looks like a longer wait.
I've been waiting for 1809 for the updated DirectX and RT functions so now it looks like a longer wait.
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#5599034 Posted on: 10/22/2018 03:59 PM
Why? Use 7-zip and no harm.
I've been waiting for 1809 for the updated DirectX and RT functions so now it looks like a longer wait.
Why? Use 7-zip and no harm.
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#5599036 Posted on: 10/22/2018 04:04 PM
Windows 10, since the initial release, is an OS as a service as it seems. Nothing remains the same, never meant to be stable.
We can't blame them, everything happens for the money. They are begging for Office 365 users with Insiders thingy pushed there. How many office versions are really needed to be innovative? Microsoft took the down road in every application or operating system since 2007.
Windows 10, since the initial release, is an OS as a service as it seems. Nothing remains the same, never meant to be stable.
We can't blame them, everything happens for the money. They are begging for Office 365 users with Insiders thingy pushed there. How many office versions are really needed to be innovative? Microsoft took the down road in every application or operating system since 2007.
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#5599044 Posted on: 10/22/2018 04:30 PM
I m so sorry for pc in general.
Performance and new hardware for graphic/gaming is pc world.
But you can't really use the new hardware without the new software.
So if you want updated directX now you have to update all the OS, that is kinda weird.
If we could have a secured windows 7 with proper drivers for new hardware and updated directX that would be enough.
a would pay a 5/$ even 10$ month for an operating system that do its job. But without crap.
I m so sorry for pc in general.
Performance and new hardware for graphic/gaming is pc world.
But you can't really use the new hardware without the new software.
So if you want updated directX now you have to update all the OS, that is kinda weird.
If we could have a secured windows 7 with proper drivers for new hardware and updated directX that would be enough.
a would pay a 5/$ even 10$ month for an operating system that do its job. But without crap.
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#5599045 Posted on: 10/22/2018 04:30 PM
Windows 7 here on heresy hardware (8700k), no file loss, no spying and no changes for the sake of change either.
Windows 7 here on heresy hardware (8700k), no file loss, no spying and no changes for the sake of change either.
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#5599055 Posted on: 10/22/2018 04:56 PM
Rolling Rolling Rolling Keep On Rolling
Q/A is gona come back to haunted them, then again Q/A I think most places forgot what that really is.
Rolling Rolling Rolling Keep On Rolling
Q/A is gona come back to haunted them, then again Q/A I think most places forgot what that really is.
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#5599060 Posted on: 10/22/2018 05:10 PM
I know it's bad, but who uses explorer to extract anyway (download 7-Zip and forget about it). However I suspect Microsoft will come empty handed as always for tomorrow's patch tuesday.
I know it's bad, but who uses explorer to extract anyway (download 7-Zip and forget about it). However I suspect Microsoft will come empty handed as always for tomorrow's patch tuesday.
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#5599063 Posted on: 10/22/2018 05:11 PM
Hopefully they will fix all this serious problems before re-releasing 1809 again to the public. Previously i had installed 1809 but i was getting weird loss of fps in certain games and benchmarks :/ . Solution , i clean installed 1803 again and the numbers of the benchmarks went up and fps in those games went up.
Microsoft should be more careful before releasing this new windows 10 versions ,as it seems like we are in Beta testing forever on windows 10 add infinitum ...
Hopefully they will fix all this serious problems before re-releasing 1809 again to the public. Previously i had installed 1809 but i was getting weird loss of fps in certain games and benchmarks :/ . Solution , i clean installed 1803 again and the numbers of the benchmarks went up and fps in those games went up.
Microsoft should be more careful before releasing this new windows 10 versions ,as it seems like we are in Beta testing forever on windows 10 add infinitum ...
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#5599064 Posted on: 10/22/2018 05:14 PM
In addition, there reports that unpacking does not go well, both the original file disappears and the newly extracted files as well.
just tried on my 1809 and absolutely no problem for me , all my zip file work perfectly with the built-in zip function of Windows
I think this problem doesn't happen on all conf.
In addition, there reports that unpacking does not go well, both the original file disappears and the newly extracted files as well.
just tried on my 1809 and absolutely no problem for me , all my zip file work perfectly with the built-in zip function of Windows
I think this problem doesn't happen on all conf.
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#5599065 Posted on: 10/22/2018 05:16 PM
Rolling Rolling Rolling Keep On Rolling
Q/A is gona come back to haunted them, then again Q/A I think most places forgot what that really is.
Some times ago when I was checking change notes for Win 10 insider Build, there was accompanied post for video which was like:
"10 ways how to run tests in production environment without being fired."
I think that's exactly what MS is doing.
Hopefully they will fix all this serious problems before re-releasing 1809 again to the public. Previously i had installed 1809 but i was getting weird loss of fps in certain games and benchmarks :/ . Solution , i clean installed 1803 again and the numbers of the benchmarks went up and fps in those games went up.
Microsoft should be more careful before releasing this new windows 10 versions ,as it seems like we are in Beta testing forever on windows 10 add infinitum ...
That's not gonna change much. It is consequence of Game Mode, DWM and GPU scheduling changes. Maybe in long run they will make it work, but even 18252 has it utterly bad.
Rolling Rolling Rolling Keep On Rolling
Q/A is gona come back to haunted them, then again Q/A I think most places forgot what that really is.
Some times ago when I was checking change notes for Win 10 insider Build, there was accompanied post for video which was like:
"10 ways how to run tests in production environment without being fired."
I think that's exactly what MS is doing.
Hopefully they will fix all this serious problems before re-releasing 1809 again to the public. Previously i had installed 1809 but i was getting weird loss of fps in certain games and benchmarks :/ . Solution , i clean installed 1803 again and the numbers of the benchmarks went up and fps in those games went up.
Microsoft should be more careful before releasing this new windows 10 versions ,as it seems like we are in Beta testing forever on windows 10 add infinitum ...
That's not gonna change much. It is consequence of Game Mode, DWM and GPU scheduling changes. Maybe in long run they will make it work, but even 18252 has it utterly bad.
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#5599066 Posted on: 10/22/2018 05:16 PM
Im not big fan Linux architecture, but when you compare everything except games performance Linux is now much faster than Windows 10, regarding of last couple of Phoronix tests, they are doign really something bad.. I guess that to be MS developer in now days not have any prestige so their developers skills sucks..
Im not big fan Linux architecture, but when you compare everything except games performance Linux is now much faster than Windows 10, regarding of last couple of Phoronix tests, they are doign really something bad.. I guess that to be MS developer in now days not have any prestige so their developers skills sucks..
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#5599083 Posted on: 10/22/2018 05:47 PM
Yeah, same talks since Win9x. Keep tradition alive.
I love all editions starting with Win7 (skipped Win8 though, and went to Win8.1). Much more stable for me than WinXP. I forgot when I last saw a BSOD. And only problem in Win10 I witnessed in 1709 - glitching start menu.
Yeah, same talks since Win9x. Keep tradition alive.
I love all editions starting with Win7 (skipped Win8 though, and went to Win8.1). Much more stable for me than WinXP. I forgot when I last saw a BSOD. And only problem in Win10 I witnessed in 1709 - glitching start menu.
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#5599095 Posted on: 10/22/2018 06:18 PM
So their QA is so abysmal that they don't even have functionality to monitor for unwanted changes to all files & folders in their test environment. You'd think that would be on their minimal checklist for an OS change/patch. So, in the context of releasing an OS update, let's implement a 'feature' that involves utilising the file system and not monitor, whatsoever, for unintended side effects involving that system's use. Unbelievable. This is elementary stuff within that context. I think we need to consign them to releasing all future 'updates' on good old fashioned physical media, just to have them properly engage with the QA dept.
I remember well the cassettes and 5.25" discs of the 80's. I think QA was high on the agenda then.
So their QA is so abysmal that they don't even have functionality to monitor for unwanted changes to all files & folders in their test environment. You'd think that would be on their minimal checklist for an OS change/patch. So, in the context of releasing an OS update, let's implement a 'feature' that involves utilising the file system and not monitor, whatsoever, for unintended side effects involving that system's use. Unbelievable. This is elementary stuff within that context. I think we need to consign them to releasing all future 'updates' on good old fashioned physical media, just to have them properly engage with the QA dept.
I remember well the cassettes and 5.25" discs of the 80's. I think QA was high on the agenda then.
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#5599099 Posted on: 10/22/2018 06:29 PM
Hopefully they will fix all this serious problems before re-releasing 1809 again to the public. Previously i had installed 1809 but i was getting weird loss of fps in certain games and benchmarks :/ . Solution , i clean installed 1803 again and the numbers of the benchmarks went up and fps in those games went up.
Microsoft should be more careful before releasing this new windows 10 versions ,as it seems like we are in Beta testing forever on windows 10 add infinitum ...
I had exactly the same problem with FPS and same fix too
Hopefully they will fix all this serious problems before re-releasing 1809 again to the public. Previously i had installed 1809 but i was getting weird loss of fps in certain games and benchmarks :/ . Solution , i clean installed 1803 again and the numbers of the benchmarks went up and fps in those games went up.
Microsoft should be more careful before releasing this new windows 10 versions ,as it seems like we are in Beta testing forever on windows 10 add infinitum ...
I had exactly the same problem with FPS and same fix too
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I haven't clean installed since 1709 and I am always an insider skip ahead user. Never encountered a single problem so serious to lose something. Some apps incompatibility here and there.
How Microsoft succeeded to ruin stable public release so many times? First spectre/meltdown patches with AMD cpus and now this with disappearing data for everyone? When will we hear about people getting fired from M$? Are they really irreplaceable? We have unemployment all over the world.