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Windows 10 to use telemetry data to troubleshoot and automatically fix issues
Microsoft shared word that it will start using Windows 10 telemetry data to help users with computer problems. Users with problems currently have to find the right troubleshooter to try to solve their issue. With up[coming Windows 10 revisions, that'll become an automated process.
The improved troubleshooter will actively use your diagnostic telemetry data collected by the system to diagnose computer issues reports myce today. Based on that data, Windows 10 will detect the problem and provide a tailored set of fixes that are then automatically applied. Microsoft hasn’t provided any specifics on the information that is shared and used for this feature.
-- Microsoft -- Don’t feel like troubleshooting? We’ve got you covered. In previous releases, if you noticed your PC was having a problem, you would have to find the right troubleshooter and then manually walk through all the different steps to resolve it. We hear your feedback that the time that takes to do can be frustrating – why not just automatically fix issues that you know how to fix and can detect? We agree! If an issue occurs we want to get you back up and running as quickly as possible, so with Build 18262 you’ll find a new recommended troubleshooting setting under Settings > Update & Security > Troubleshoot in Build 18262. This feature uses diagnostic data you send to deliver a tailored set of fixes matching problems we detect on your device and will automatically apply them to your PC.
A setting for the new troubleshooter has been added to the latest Windows 10 Insider build but it can’t be used yet. Microsoft explains the feature is in development and will be enabled in future Insider builds. When, and if, the feature will be added to the production version of Windows 10 is unknown.
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#5599216 Posted on: 10/23/2018 08:53 AM
Oh, yeah. Automatic "Fix" from company which releases destructive "patches". And how do you enable this "wonderful" malware? You "only" have to stop blocking their spyware.
I feel it in my bones now, it is cancer.
Oh, yeah. Automatic "Fix" from company which releases destructive "patches". And how do you enable this "wonderful" malware? You "only" have to stop blocking their spyware.
I feel it in my bones now, it is cancer.
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#5599223 Posted on: 10/23/2018 09:16 AM
I feel it in my bones now, it is cancer.
Gosh, thats ghastly. Thats like the worst thing everyones ever said about anything ever.
I feel it in my bones now, it is cancer.
Gosh, thats ghastly. Thats like the worst thing everyones ever said about anything ever.
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#5599225 Posted on: 10/23/2018 09:29 AM
What was telemetry used for up until this point?
What was telemetry used for up until this point?
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#5599226 Posted on: 10/23/2018 09:30 AM
TRANSLATION: "Omg, we'll... we'll... 'FIX' all your troubles!!! ...IF, IF, IF, YOU JUST 'OBEY' AND ACCEPT OUR TELEMETRY SPYWARE!" <~~Ignore the Devil in the details, folks!
...Remember the beauty and simplicity of installing Windows 7? NONE OF THIS PRIVACY-INVASION-OBSESSION MADNESS???
Have a GLORIOUS look (click the FORUM) :
TRANSLATION: "Omg, we'll... we'll... 'FIX' all your troubles!!! ...IF, IF, IF, YOU JUST 'OBEY' AND ACCEPT OUR TELEMETRY SPYWARE!" <~~Ignore the Devil in the details, folks!
...Remember the beauty and simplicity of installing Windows 7? NONE OF THIS PRIVACY-INVASION-OBSESSION MADNESS???
Have a GLORIOUS look (click the FORUM) :
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#5599241 Posted on: 10/23/2018 10:59 AM
££££££ / $$$$$$$
It became fairly obvious it was not being used for fixing problems when the OS that had millions of testers and stupid amounts of telemetry was the buggiest to date
What was telemetry used for up until this point?
££££££ / $$$$$$$
It became fairly obvious it was not being used for fixing problems when the OS that had millions of testers and stupid amounts of telemetry was the buggiest to date
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#5599246 Posted on: 10/23/2018 11:45 AM
Telemetry here, telemetry there, telemetry everywhere...
Telemetry here, telemetry there, telemetry everywhere...
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#5599251 Posted on: 10/23/2018 12:02 PM
"why not just automatically fix issues that you know how to fix and can detect?"
If I can detect the issue and know how to fix it, why do I need MS again ?
"why not just automatically fix issues that you know how to fix and can detect?"
If I can detect the issue and know how to fix it, why do I need MS again ?
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#5599255 Posted on: 10/23/2018 12:26 PM
Their 'Fix Me' creators never work.
What puzzles me is that they will 'start' using telemetry data for issue diagnostic just now.
What the hell they were using it for past 3 years? Poor Windows 10 users.
Their 'Fix Me' creators never work.
What puzzles me is that they will 'start' using telemetry data for issue diagnostic just now.
What the hell they were using it for past 3 years? Poor Windows 10 users.
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#5599258 Posted on: 10/23/2018 12:53 PM
Their 'Fix Me' creators never work.
What puzzles me is that they will 'start' using telemetry data for issue diagnostic just now.
What the hell they were using it for past 3 years? Poor Windows 10 users.
Investment, what other value is there? They got linked-in for that reason too.
Selling your data to NSA is just tiny thing for them, knowing what is popular to whom and what is future of company based on its employees and ratings they give.
Flow of people...
Their 'Fix Me' creators never work.
What puzzles me is that they will 'start' using telemetry data for issue diagnostic just now.
What the hell they were using it for past 3 years? Poor Windows 10 users.
Investment, what other value is there? They got linked-in for that reason too.
Selling your data to NSA is just tiny thing for them, knowing what is popular to whom and what is future of company based on its employees and ratings they give.
Flow of people...
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#5599261 Posted on: 10/23/2018 01:13 PM
Telemetry is the first service to get turned off (after every update; Nvidia, too).
Telemetry is the first service to get turned off (after every update; Nvidia, too).
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#5599269 Posted on: 10/23/2018 01:58 PM
Many years ago I was talking with a Microsoft employee, and he asked me what's the biggest database on Earth that nobody ever reads. The answer was Microsoft error report database.
Many years ago I was talking with a Microsoft employee, and he asked me what's the biggest database on Earth that nobody ever reads. The answer was Microsoft error report database.
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#5599270 Posted on: 10/23/2018 02:00 PM
I see meme potential.
Many years ago I was talking with a Microsoft employee, and he asked me what's the biggest database on Earth that nobody ever reads. The answer was Microsoft error report database.
I see meme potential.
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#5599290 Posted on: 10/23/2018 02:46 PM
Correction. Update is the first thing to be turned off after a fresh install
Telemetry is the first service to get turned off (after every update; Nvidia, too).
Correction. Update is the first thing to be turned off after a fresh install
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#5599292 Posted on: 10/23/2018 02:52 PM
As long as telemetry can fix all dcom problems in the logs, I will use it.
As long as telemetry can fix all dcom problems in the logs, I will use it.
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> you would have to find the right troubleshooter and then manually walk through all the different steps to resolve it
Lost me there hahah :-D As if any troubleshooter ever worked reliably.
Joking aside, I'm rather happy managing things my own way, thank you MS. However, if this works well enough then I suspect a lot of issues can be solved easier by non-techy people, which is a good thing for Windows.