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Windows 10: Latest update to patch issues is causing problems with multi-channel sound in games
Just when you thought you're where out, they pull you back in :) Microsoft has seen quite a bit of irritation from their users-base with their latest updates. In fact, the latest update that actually would fix most the problems now creates a new multi-channel sound issue in games.
After the last big cumulative update caused by searchui.exe among other things for high CPU load, Microsoft recommended to postpone or undo the installation and offered with KB4515384 a patch for this and other problems. But here too, things are not going according to plan. Microsoft has confirmed that Windows Update KB4515384 is not rendering multichannel audio correctly. People experiencing problems will notice that their audio does not sound the same as expected. Other users are saying that the update has caused problems with network adapters, search, Start menu, Action Center, USB connections, PINs, and more
Gamers report that OS Build 18362.356, September 10, has corrupted audio playback in games. More precisely, the volume of the games is quieter than one would expect. Microsoft is aware of the error and is working on a solution. The whole thing is caused by a change to Windows 10 in cooperation with audio chip providers to render multi-channel sound.
The workaround is to temporarily disable multichannel sound in affected games and play in stereo. If you use third-party setting software, you can also switch off multi-channel sound here. Also, virtual surround sound modes may be affected. Microsoft is working on a solution to the problem and deployment is expected by the end of September.
Guys, delay Windows 10 updates if possible if they do not contain critical security holes.
Source: Microsoft
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#5713507 Posted on: 09/22/2019 06:36 PM
It was a humor, but he actually said that Inside Programme users do not report (minor) bugs.
Overall it is not correct to compare Win7 (one service pack in 2011 since release in 2009, no new features added since 2009) with Win10 (one service pack per 6 months, several features added in each one).
Not really what he's saying. Re the Insiders Program, he is saying it is not very effective since it relies too heavily on telemetry and to lesser extent on feedback of users. And that the old testing protocols of before the layoffs involved many more MS techs to deal with the OS and its bugs. The fault lies in MS restructuring of their OS development and testing systems since 2015.
It was a humor, but he actually said that Inside Programme users do not report (minor) bugs.
Overall it is not correct to compare Win7 (one service pack in 2011 since release in 2009, no new features added since 2009) with Win10 (one service pack per 6 months, several features added in each one).
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#5713550 Posted on: 09/22/2019 10:27 PM
I'm in no way defending Windows 10 here but you can effectively postpone updates indefinitely with that OS as well. Ish.
I were originally using a setup where I postponed feature updates (in the slow channel) 6 months and quality updates 7 days, my reasoning being that quality updates with big issues usually got detected and pulled within 7 days.
As this setup were still causing issues I eventually went "screw it" and disabled updates entirely. Now my thinking were that I'd have to re-enable updates and manually do them periodically when necessary but that's not actually how it works. Once you've disabled updates Windows 10 will still check for, and automatically install, any available updates when you choose to manually "check for updates".
So, with updates fully disabled Windows 10 kinda works halfway like Windows 7. You can manually scan for updates, though you don't get to choose whether to install them or not.
It's not ideal, granted, but it's at least better than nothing.
...it sure feels like Windows 10 does get alot more problems from various updates compared to the other Windows. And in case there were known problems on Win7, you could postpone the updates indefinitely.
I'm in no way defending Windows 10 here but you can effectively postpone updates indefinitely with that OS as well. Ish.
I were originally using a setup where I postponed feature updates (in the slow channel) 6 months and quality updates 7 days, my reasoning being that quality updates with big issues usually got detected and pulled within 7 days.
As this setup were still causing issues I eventually went "screw it" and disabled updates entirely. Now my thinking were that I'd have to re-enable updates and manually do them periodically when necessary but that's not actually how it works. Once you've disabled updates Windows 10 will still check for, and automatically install, any available updates when you choose to manually "check for updates".
So, with updates fully disabled Windows 10 kinda works halfway like Windows 7. You can manually scan for updates, though you don't get to choose whether to install them or not.
It's not ideal, granted, but it's at least better than nothing.
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#5714973 Posted on: 09/27/2019 11:54 AM
September 26, 2019—KB4517211 (OS Build 18362.387)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4517211
Updates an issue that causes audio in certain games to be quieter or different than expected.
September 26, 2019—KB4517211 (OS Build 18362.387)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4517211
Updates an issue that causes audio in certain games to be quieter or different than expected.
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#5714976 Posted on: 09/27/2019 11:57 AM
September 26, 2019—KB4517211 (OS Build 18362.387)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4517211
Updates an issue that causes audio in certain games to be quieter or different than expected.
Yeah its an Optional for me this one, so havn't installed, as got no problems from any previous updates.
September 26, 2019—KB4517211 (OS Build 18362.387)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4517211
Updates an issue that causes audio in certain games to be quieter or different than expected.
Yeah its an Optional for me this one, so havn't installed, as got no problems from any previous updates.
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I suspected this - consumers who participate in Insider Programme are to blame because they are a crappy testers!
And Microsoft programmers are gods because they manage to maintain OS capable to work on majority of PCs in such bad testing conditions!
Not really what he's saying. Re the Insiders Program, he is saying it is not very effective since it relies too heavily on telemetry and to lesser extent on feedback of users. And that the old testing protocols of before the layoffs involved many more MS techs to deal with the OS and its bugs. The fault lies in MS restructuring of their OS development and testing systems since 2015.