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Windows 10 KB3213986 Update can cripple multi-monitor gaming
There is an advisory issued by Microsoft that a certain Windows 10 Update can cripple multi-monitor gaming. Microsoft tags this problem as "known issues" and hopefully is working on a fix.
Microsoft opened up a bulletin on the problem and invokes screen stuttering or clipped screens when running 3D apps on machines with more than one monitor. Users may experience delayed or clipped screens while running 3D rendering apps (such as games) on systems with more than one monitor.
To work around this issue please consider the following options:
- Running the application in Windows mode (not full screen)
- Starting the application with only one monitor connected
Thanks SH SOTN for submitting this news. More info at Microsoft.
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#5380480 Posted on: 01/11/2017 03:04 PM
Ok and the problems with anniversary update are fixed? Like wiped partitions etc?
Ok and the problems with anniversary update are fixed? Like wiped partitions etc?
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#5380482 Posted on: 01/11/2017 03:06 PM
I got the same problem, I use 1 monitor that's Dell UP2414Q 4k but it uses something like dual transport with display port connector. So, since the latest update I've some issues with or my left side or my right side of the screen will be black.
From another forum I'm member of, I found this:
"In administrative CMD prompt:
wusa /uninstall /kb:3213986 /norestart"
I got the same problem, I use 1 monitor that's Dell UP2414Q 4k but it uses something like dual transport with display port connector. So, since the latest update I've some issues with or my left side or my right side of the screen will be black.
From another forum I'm member of, I found this:
"In administrative CMD prompt:
wusa /uninstall /kb:3213986 /norestart"
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#5380487 Posted on: 01/11/2017 03:19 PM
Not sure if uninstalling this update will return you to the previous one (14393.5xx), or right back to 14393 RTM, with them being cumulative, each update replaces the previous one
Not sure if uninstalling this update will return you to the previous one (14393.5xx), or right back to 14393 RTM, with them being cumulative, each update replaces the previous one
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#5380562 Posted on: 01/11/2017 07:05 PM
If they want to force cumulative updates, the least they could do is make sure bugs like these don't exist. They probably thought their uwp **** games run in fullscreen windowed mode anyway and released it without a care. I hope a fix is released before Sunday.
Updates were better in the past, the only cumulative updates were rollups of previously validated updates. On top of that is the 3.99TB bug which seriously slows down windows update install and clean up even on an SSD. Then we'll have to deal with the "Creator's Update"'s teething issues in April. Ugh. PITA O/S.
If they want to force cumulative updates, the least they could do is make sure bugs like these don't exist. They probably thought their uwp **** games run in fullscreen windowed mode anyway and released it without a care. I hope a fix is released before Sunday.
Updates were better in the past, the only cumulative updates were rollups of previously validated updates. On top of that is the 3.99TB bug which seriously slows down windows update install and clean up even on an SSD. Then we'll have to deal with the "Creator's Update"'s teething issues in April. Ugh. PITA O/S.
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#5380563 Posted on: 01/11/2017 07:08 PM
It will bring you back to the previous update, assuming you didn't DISM it out entirely via the /resetbase parameter, though usually you wouldn't do that.
Would be DISM.exe /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup <- Compresses any previous superseded update whereas the same but with /resetbase added at the end removes the superseded updates entirely though it does prevent you from uninstalling the current one too. (Disk clean up utility should be about the same as the first command, takes a bit more time to compress instead of delete but it's safer.)
It will bring you back to the previous update, assuming you didn't DISM it out entirely via the /resetbase parameter, though usually you wouldn't do that.
Would be DISM.exe /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup <- Compresses any previous superseded update whereas the same but with /resetbase added at the end removes the superseded updates entirely though it does prevent you from uninstalling the current one too. (Disk clean up utility should be about the same as the first command, takes a bit more time to compress instead of delete but it's safer.)
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#5380574 Posted on: 01/11/2017 07:41 PM
Murphy's law in action.
Murphy's law in action.
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#5380588 Posted on: 01/11/2017 08:26 PM
Don't you just love not being in control of windows update.
Don't you just love not being in control of windows update.
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#5380596 Posted on: 01/11/2017 09:02 PM
Yeah at least you can reign it in a bit with the "pro" edition of Win10 (And GPEdit or knowing a bit about regedit.) but for full access you actually need the "enterprise" edition or some of the GPEdit policies will have no effect.
They're improving that a bit with the upcoming RS2 / "Creator" update that should hit RTM in a few months.
(For example by being able to more clearly disable WU from also "correcting" driver installations by downloading some old-ass GPU driver from the dark domains of the Microsoft Update servers.
)
(It has it's uses of course but not when the driver currently installed is more than a year newer than the driver Windows is currently fighting you over and forcibly trying to install.
)
Yeah at least you can reign it in a bit with the "pro" edition of Win10 (And GPEdit or knowing a bit about regedit.) but for full access you actually need the "enterprise" edition or some of the GPEdit policies will have no effect.
They're improving that a bit with the upcoming RS2 / "Creator" update that should hit RTM in a few months.
(For example by being able to more clearly disable WU from also "correcting" driver installations by downloading some old-ass GPU driver from the dark domains of the Microsoft Update servers.
)
(It has it's uses of course but not when the driver currently installed is more than a year newer than the driver Windows is currently fighting you over and forcibly trying to install.
)
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#5380637 Posted on: 01/12/2017 12:36 AM
How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.
Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.
Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
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#5380641 Posted on: 01/12/2017 12:52 AM
How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.
Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
Either disable the Windows update service, or
Start > Run: gpedit.msc
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows update
EDIT - Updated correct location
How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.
Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
Either disable the Windows update service, or
Start > Run: gpedit.msc
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows update
EDIT - Updated correct location
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#5380646 Posted on: 01/12/2017 01:12 AM
For ****'s sake. How many times has MS screwed up with Win 10 updates like this now? 7? 8 times? This is why forced updates shouldn't be legal.
For ****'s sake. How many times has MS screwed up with Win 10 updates like this now? 7? 8 times? This is why forced updates shouldn't be legal.
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#5380649 Posted on: 01/12/2017 01:18 AM
Unfortunately MS will always run in to issues due to the infinite amount of PC configurations and WaaS. However, nothing has been ground-breaking as of yet to be quite frank.
Unfortunately MS will always run in to issues due to the infinite amount of PC configurations and WaaS. However, nothing has been ground-breaking as of yet to be quite frank.
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#5380650 Posted on: 01/12/2017 01:21 AM
I dont have one them monitors I dont even have AU on my pc.
I dont have one them monitors I dont even have AU on my pc.
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#5380674 Posted on: 01/12/2017 02:34 AM
How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.
Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
basically you have to have win 10 updates on because they are updating it and changing as time goes by evolving it as they see fit so its always gonna be buggy as hell and annoying updating itself all the time, i use win 7 i install all the redists i need the net framework i need and direct x then turn upadtes off for good in registry, services ,current control set 1 and 2 and current user all off make sure its 4 in all, if you disable updates off in services control panel microsoft turn it back on , only registry u can stop it , but win 10 it may not work because if you edit registry it starts to blue screen and fail you need do fresh install its a disaster of an operating system
How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.
Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
basically you have to have win 10 updates on because they are updating it and changing as time goes by evolving it as they see fit so its always gonna be buggy as hell and annoying updating itself all the time, i use win 7 i install all the redists i need the net framework i need and direct x then turn upadtes off for good in registry, services ,current control set 1 and 2 and current user all off make sure its 4 in all, if you disable updates off in services control panel microsoft turn it back on , only registry u can stop it , but win 10 it may not work because if you edit registry it starts to blue screen and fail you need do fresh install its a disaster of an operating system
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