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Windows 10 Blocking Counterfeit Games ?
icrosoft's new unified services agreement is freaking people out because it contains language that says Microsoft can scan Windows 10 devices for pirated software and block it.
The clause can be found under section 7b, "Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms." It reads:
We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices. You may also be required to update the software to continue using the Services
The clause would suggest that Microsoft will disable pirated first-party games. The EULA also mentions "unauthorized hardware peripheral devices," which is a much more fuzzy description. Is it controllers that have been specifically hacked to enable an unfair advantage, or something much broader?
The services agreement covers Windows 10, Windows Phone, Xbox 360 and Xbox One. Published on 4 June 2015, the agreement came into force on 1 August.
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#5143636 Posted on: 08/18/2015 05:42 PM
Well, i doubt any of the shutting games down story is true (apart from them doing it to pirated microsoft first party games) but if it started shutting down other games etc i'm pretty sure people would just switch back to windows 7. Microsoft don't want that so i doubt they'll tamper too hard.
Well, i doubt any of the shutting games down story is true (apart from them doing it to pirated microsoft first party games) but if it started shutting down other games etc i'm pretty sure people would just switch back to windows 7. Microsoft don't want that so i doubt they'll tamper too hard.
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#5143687 Posted on: 08/18/2015 07:09 PM
Yes it can after all you cant disable the disable button that stays enabled when looking disabled in the home version. Then bypass the host file if you really want to try and block it phoning home because they have hard coded DNS written into it. Then on top of that they have even gone to the expense of making a pop up error to make you think it's not working. Just do a packet sniff AFTEr everything is supposedly disabled. Quite frightening really.
Microsoft havent changed at all. New CEO same old Sh1t Hey but at least you are locked in by DX12 right? Makes it all worthwhile
Yet almost everyone owns a cellphone and your exact position can be determined at any time. Face it, as technology advances you have less and less privacy. But those same people that complain about privacy issues are also the ones who complain when new products aren't innovative or don't bring anything new to the game.
Yes it can after all you cant disable the disable button that stays enabled when looking disabled in the home version. Then bypass the host file if you really want to try and block it phoning home because they have hard coded DNS written into it. Then on top of that they have even gone to the expense of making a pop up error to make you think it's not working. Just do a packet sniff AFTEr everything is supposedly disabled. Quite frightening really.
Microsoft havent changed at all. New CEO same old Sh1t Hey but at least you are locked in by DX12 right? Makes it all worthwhile
Yet almost everyone owns a cellphone and your exact position can be determined at any time. Face it, as technology advances you have less and less privacy. But those same people that complain about privacy issues are also the ones who complain when new products aren't innovative or don't bring anything new to the game.
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#5143718 Posted on: 08/18/2015 07:52 PM
Every MS Win 10 PC or device get a unique ID for games/apps found in C:\ProgramData\regid.1991-06.com.microsoft.
This ID is used to verify if the App/game has been purchased through the MS Store or not.
Then you have the USO Files in ProgramData to help MS detect which app/games you actually own.
I have tried Deleting these useless files but they are persistent and keep returning, even if you don't use/want them.
This is all to do with Xbox live store and the App store and MS account.
MS are saying you need an MS account if you want the full use of the OS which is BS.
Soon MS will be bringing all Xbox games to Win 10 and if you want to use that function then i'm afraid you'll have no choice but to use an MS account.
Same as Steam or Origin really. Only MS will be able to scan the PC for dodgy copies of their software and block it somehow. Maybe even ban the account for ever or just use annoying pop ups to tell you a certain app/game has no Legit license.
Banning or blocking none MS software would land them in court and would be a nightmare to police.
Some people including myself have used cracks/NOCDs for ever, even used on LEGIT purchased AAA Titles that have intrusive DRM.
It's not illegal to use DRM blocking software and having a cracked game on one's HDD doesn't prove it's stolen, so that's the grey area that for now can't be fixed.
You can accuse me of being a pirate all you want, but you better bring solid proof because i'll sue you for defamation. Just because i downloaded a game using uTorrent also doesn't prove anything because again it's not illegal to use such software and maybe i just used it because i get better speeds.
TBH i don't really give a **** what MS does anymore but one thing is for sure, i'll be trying my hardest to rid my PC of Bloatware/Spyware or any other Crapware MS wants to force on me.
I just wish MS brought out a Win 10 Gamers edition that is super light weight and has no Metro crap or other BS and i'd even pay for that....
Every MS Win 10 PC or device get a unique ID for games/apps found in C:\ProgramData\regid.1991-06.com.microsoft.
This ID is used to verify if the App/game has been purchased through the MS Store or not.
Then you have the USO Files in ProgramData to help MS detect which app/games you actually own.
I have tried Deleting these useless files but they are persistent and keep returning, even if you don't use/want them.
This is all to do with Xbox live store and the App store and MS account.
MS are saying you need an MS account if you want the full use of the OS which is BS.
Soon MS will be bringing all Xbox games to Win 10 and if you want to use that function then i'm afraid you'll have no choice but to use an MS account.
Same as Steam or Origin really. Only MS will be able to scan the PC for dodgy copies of their software and block it somehow. Maybe even ban the account for ever or just use annoying pop ups to tell you a certain app/game has no Legit license.
Banning or blocking none MS software would land them in court and would be a nightmare to police.
Some people including myself have used cracks/NOCDs for ever, even used on LEGIT purchased AAA Titles that have intrusive DRM.
It's not illegal to use DRM blocking software and having a cracked game on one's HDD doesn't prove it's stolen, so that's the grey area that for now can't be fixed.
You can accuse me of being a pirate all you want, but you better bring solid proof because i'll sue you for defamation. Just because i downloaded a game using uTorrent also doesn't prove anything because again it's not illegal to use such software and maybe i just used it because i get better speeds.
TBH i don't really give a **** what MS does anymore but one thing is for sure, i'll be trying my hardest to rid my PC of Bloatware/Spyware or any other Crapware MS wants to force on me.
I just wish MS brought out a Win 10 Gamers edition that is super light weight and has no Metro crap or other BS and i'd even pay for that....
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#5143730 Posted on: 08/18/2015 08:01 PM
And i'm blocking Windows 10 from my Windows 7 Updates
And i'm blocking Windows 10 from my Windows 7 Updates
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Your comment makes no sense at all.
Not one single bit.
I know exactly what he meant. While not directly to this topic, it points towards m$ strategy in general.