WD expects to produce six exabytes less flash NAND due to power outage

#5685605 Posted on: 06/29/2019 09:03 PM

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at this rate 1tb ssd will be 50$ by years end! quick! lets flood an industrial city!

#5685640 Posted on: 06/29/2019 11:07 PM

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Seems like Memory, SSD and other manufacturers always seem to have freak accidents when prices don't go they're way

#5685645 Posted on: 06/29/2019 11:32 PM

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Wait... did this 13m interruption happen to all SSD makers? Whats the point for WD to raise prices while everyone else does not? Why should peeps pay $100 WD SSDs over competitions $80 units?

#5685678 Posted on: 06/30/2019 04:50 AM

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Remember the floods for regular spindle hard drives seems all raised prices after for a bit. less supply = higher price usually even for others manufacturers not affected

#5685693 Posted on: 06/30/2019 08:06 AM

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Not only that I remember, that's the time when I've worked in retail and computer repair.
And that what the time when Spanish authorities decided to put a tax on HDDs just only to tax out piracy.
It was insanely expensive to buy a regular Seagate 500GB HDD that day, around 130€.
That was the time also when I've started to buy from Amazon Germany, they didn't had the piracy tax on HDDs.

#5685731 Posted on: 06/30/2019 12:57 PM

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Oh come on now your trying to tell us that a multi billion dollar fab doesn't have a continuous power supply good for a few days at least without the national grid I just don't believe that to be true

#5685748 Posted on: 06/30/2019 02:37 PM

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Sure, why not install a 100 MW backup power plant in the basement, just in case of an event that lasts a few minutes once in a lifetime?

A complete power outage on a production facility which uses industrial-grade voltage could only be alleviated with a multi megawatt-hour class battery backup station - these are still a rarity in Japan, and overall they are ordered and maintained by local power grid companies, not by individual industries.

#5685780 Posted on: 06/30/2019 05:33 PM

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I hope it doesnt turn out like DDR4 price fixing fiasco or the HDD shortage due to the flooding..... but WD + Toshiba produce around 35% of the NAD, only Samsung is bigger, lets hope SK Hynex and Micron see this as an opportunity to grab some market share instead of join the price gauging that kinda looks is going to happen.

#5685784 Posted on: 06/30/2019 05:59 PM

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WD and flash...lol

Yeah...they're not even a contender.

#5685851 Posted on: 07/01/2019 12:46 AM

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Well for sure I will be buying a new drive ASAP.

#5685873 Posted on: 07/01/2019 04:39 AM

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Sure, why not install a 100 MW backup power plant in the basement, just in case of an event that lasts a few minutes once in a lifetime?

A complete power outage on a production facility which uses industrial-grade voltage could only be alleviated with a multi megawatt-hour class battery backup station - these are still a rarity in Japan, and overall they are ordered and maintained by local power grid companies, not by individual industries.

so What do you think this is for, running the coffee machines or something as equally inane as that

#5685906 Posted on: 07/01/2019 08:17 AM

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I hate to say it, but I already was doubtful of SSD prices in full drop. Just like I didn't believe in RAM dropping (they're still not below 2016 prices for low spec DDR4!). Seems I wasn't too far off. Funny how these "accidents" always happen when components / hardware seems to get a big price drop.

#5685945 Posted on: 07/01/2019 11:39 AM

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These are prefabricated portable buildings, most likely temporary living quarters for construction workers (a

Diesel backup generator station of that scale would be very expensive to install and maintain. More than that, it's not really uninterruptable unless it runs full time on - and even a <1 second outage or grid irregularity can ruin the entire batch of wafers in production, which will idle the plant for several months while the full production cycle is restarted.
http://energyskeptic.com/2014/interdependent-chip-fab-electricgrid-financial-sys/

Only megawatt-class uninterruptable battery power would help alleviate these issues, but as I said above these are still very rare.

#5687678 Posted on: 07/05/2019 10:59 PM

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Ram prices are dropping a lot as well, so we gotta do something! >_>

https://www.techpowerup.com/257092/japan-and-south-korea-disagreements-could-compromise-global-memory-supply

#5687787 Posted on: 07/06/2019 06:42 AM

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These are prefabricated portable buildings, most likely temporary living quarters for construction workers (a

Diesel backup generator station of that scale would be very expensive to install and maintain. More than that, it's not really uninterruptable unless it runs full time on - and even a <1 second outage or grid irregularity can ruin the entire batch of wafers in production, which will idle the plant for several months while the full production cycle is restarted.
http://energyskeptic.com/2014/interdependent-chip-fab-electricgrid-financial-sys/

Only megawatt-class uninterruptable battery power would help alleviate these issues, but as I said above these are still very rare.

I don't think he's going to fess up to being clueless. I did this professionally. In the US, a complete power loss for the top 5 semi corp I worked for would have shut down every process and destroyed whatever was in process. The few exceptions might be some inkers or a few other systems with their own portable UPS.