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Watch the AMD CES 2020 Computing Keynote announcement here (replay)

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 01/06/2020 11:12 PM | source: | 41 comment(s)
Watch the AMD CES 2020 Computing Keynote announcement here (replay)

AMD CES Keynote will be rather late for those in the EU. At CES 2020 they AMD will hold a press conference with Dr. Lisa Su, broadcasted in a Livestream. Update, you can playback the keynote from this news-item.

   

 

Updates

22:00 UTC CEO Dr Su takes the stage. Talke about performance computing and how good 2019 was.
22:05 Reiterates new Xbox and Playstation consoles and Surface Laptop 3 is powered by AMD.
22:09 2020 is going to be an even bigger for AMD in relation to gamers and creators claims Su. Su talks about the laptop form factor. 
22:10 AMD will release new laptop processors, ZEN2 based 7nm power-efficient processors. 3rd generation U, H and Pro Ryzen series 4000 mobile processors. It offers up-to 8 cores and 16 threads with an up-to 4.2 GHz boost. The flagship processor is the Ryzen 7 4800U

 




 

22:15 Su announces that a dozen designs in Q1 and over a 100+ laptop designs this year based on Ryzen 4000.
22:18 It is Radeon time, Laura Smith (engineer) takes the stage, talks gaming market, Radeon for desktops and consoles. Freesync ECO system now has expanded to over 1000 displays.  Freesync will be further differentiated into Freesync, Freesync Premium and Freesync Premium Pro (all free, but merely tags/labels).

 

 

22:24 Laura talks rDNA, the new Radeon architecture that is NAVI at 7nm and newer GPUs. Existing examples are RX 5700, RX 5500. The new member is, of course, the RX 5600. The specs match what we have written below. 1375 MHz base and 1560 Mhz Game clock. It has 6GB HDDR6 @ 12 Gbps and 36 CUs x 64 = 2304 Shader processors. The NAVI card is also coming to mobile in M versions (5600M/5700M).

 

 

22:26 On 21 January the Radeon RX 5600 series will become available for 279 USD.
22:29 Frank Azor ex Alienware and Dell (now AMD) takes the stage to talk about gaming notebooks/laptops. Talks Ryzen 7 4800H mobile processor and its desktop-level performance. He shows and demos ASUS Zephyrus G14 with Ryzen 4000 processor and talks Smartshift available in Q2.

 

 

22:37 Lisa Su takes back the stage, to do her, but wait there's one more thing ...
22:43 She talks 3rd Gen Ryzen 3000 and Threadripper 3000 for desktop. 
22:45 Lisa Su re-announced the 64-core processor, 128-threads. This round some specs and prices are shared though, it'll get a 4.3 GHz Boost and 2.9 GHz base clock and sells at 3990 USD. On-shelf February 7th.

 






 

22:50 the keynote has ended.

  

Our pre-show Predictions:

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X 64 Core and Desktop CPU

Earlier chatter indicated that AMD would reveal the Threadripper 3990X in January during CES, but AMD had shifted the announcement forward already. The 64-headed beast will get 128 threads, and that is unprecedented as that is still tagged as a consumer-level processor, which by the way will work on the TRX40 chipset (we confirmed with AMD). Just like the Threadripper 3960X (review) and 3970X (review), the chip would get a 280W TDP. We also have been noting a 48-core part in our initial Threadripper 3000 reviews already, but this year AMD will release a 64-core Threaqdripper, the 3990X and a 3980X as well, with 48-cores.

   
AMD ProcessorArchitectureCoresThreadsFreq. Base/BoostTDPUSD
Ryzen Threadripper 3990X ZEN2 64 128 - - -
Ryzen Threadripper 3980X ZEN2 48 96 - - -
Ryzen Threadripper 3970X ZEN2 32 64 3.7 - 4.5 GHz 280W 1999
Ryzen Threadripper 3960X ZEN2 24 48 3.8 - 4.5 GHz 280W 1399
Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX ZEN+ 32 64 3.0 - 4.2 GHz 250W 1979
Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX ZEN+ 24 48 3.0 - 4.2 GHz 250W 1299
Ryzen Threadripper 2950X ZEN+ 16 32 3.5 - 4.4 GHz 180W 1189
Ryzen Threadripper 1950X ZEN 16 32 3.7 - 4.0 GHz 180W 898
Ryzen Threadripper 2920X ZEN+ 12 24 3.5 - 4.3 GHz 180W 589
Ryzen Threadripper 1920X ZEN 12 24 3.5 - 4.0 GHz 180W 488
Ryzen Threadripper 1900X ZEN 8 16 3.8 - 4.0 GHz 140W 389

    

AMD Ryzen 'Renoir' APUs - 7nm Mobile & Desktop Processors based on Zen2 

NVIDIA makes use of famous mathematicians, AMD tends to sick to painting artists for APUs. There are several names active on the APUs right now I mean you know Matisse 14nm and Picasso 12nm. We've also seen artist names like Vermeer and yes ... Renoir that will end up in the 3000 or 4000 APUs with ZEN2 design processor cores.

Renoir APUs will be based on ZEN2 cores and would get TDPs of 15 up-to 45 Watts for the mobile/laptop platform and up-to 65 Watts for the Desktop APUs. Interesting was an earlier mention of the number of CUs, 13 compute units likely based on VEGA architecture (not NAVI) = 832 Shaders. Only specific laptop APUs will get this. Below you can spot the content as listed. Considering current 12nm APUs are labeled Ryzen 3000 APUs, we assume that the new ones will be called Ryzen 4000 APUs.

AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT - Navi Fires taking on 1660 SUPER

There's no surprise here really, as some AIB partners leaked any and all information. Specs of a Radeon RX 5600XT Challenger D had been listed at the ASRock website. The 7nm based product was listed having 36 compute units and 2304 stream processors, which is the RX 5700. The RX 5600XT has lower clock speeds and less memory. As rumored it will be fitted with 6GB GDDR6, a base clock of 1130 MHz (RX 5700 1465MHz and 8GB). The gameclock of the RX 5600XT is 1375 MHz with a turbo frequency of 1560. With the RX 5700, these clock speeds are 1625 MHz and 1725 MHz respectively. The memory speed of the RX 5600XT is listed at 12 Gbit/s / 192-bit. Which is 288 GB/s. The RX 5700 has a memory speed of 14 Gbit/s with a 256-bit interface at 448GB/s. So yes, it will be a cut-down 5700.

 

AMD Radeon RX 5000 series
  RX 5700 XT RX 5700 RX 5600 XT RX 5500 XT
GPU Navi 10 XT Navi 10 XL Navi 10 Pro Navi 14 XTX
Cores 2560 2304 2304 1408
Basic clock 1605 MHz 1465 MHz 1130 MHz 1607 MHz
Game clock 1755 MHz 1625 MHz 1375 MHz 1717 MHz
Boost clock 1905 MHz 1725 MHz 1560 MHz 1845 MHz
Memory 8GB GDDR6 8GB GDDR6 6GB GDDR6 4GB / 8GB GDDR6
Memory bus 256 bit 256 bit 192 bit 128 bit
Memory clock speed 14 Gbps 14 Gbps 12 Gbps 14 Gbps
Bandwidth 448 GB/s 448 GB/s 288 GB/s 224 GB/s
Recommended retail price USD 449 USD 379 ? 199 USD

   

A bit of an AMD Zen 3 Tease?

AMD already mentioned the ZEN3 architecture design phase has been finished. Nowadays you can look at AMD's design and release phases as the traditional tick-tock release schedule. Here you may expect an iterated update of ZEN2. That’s said, ZEN3 should be seen as a new architecture is mentioned, which is interesting. We know that ZEN3 is a 7nm+ based product based on the below roadmap slide that was shared a while ago. AMD says it careful but hinted at yet another 15% IPC increase for ZEN3, that’s again clock for clock and not counting faster clock frequencies. So that overall perf number increase could easily crawl towards 20%. The necessity of more cores has not ended, and the future design path will be based on more cores and a greater compute density as well as a focus on memory bandwidth and I/O connectivity. Despite earlier rumors, AMD also confirmed that ZEN3 and Epyc CPUs will not use a maximum of four threads per core, so you can 'bin' that idea. 

 



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#5748166 Posted on: 01/06/2020 03:57 PM
Or possibly even the mention of their (hopefully/supposed) RX 5900 XT?!?!?! Ray traced beast coming mid 2020?? PLEASE! I would love some true competition in the market regarding feature sets with performance/cost ratio of that of AMD!! GIMME...…. GIMME.... GIMME.

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#5748209 Posted on: 01/06/2020 06:11 PM
yt links here
http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amd-announces-press-conference-ces-2020

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#5748246 Posted on: 01/06/2020 07:13 PM
Tic-Toc was Intel's lazy production schedule when it believed itself secure from competition. It's strictly a monopolist's schedule, imo. I doubt AMD will "tic-toc" as for them it will be balls-to-the-walls, pedal-to-the-metal with each new CPU release. IE, actual architecture improvements and changes are what we will see from AMD from now--if what they've been saying is true, and I see no reason as of now to doubt it.

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#5748279 Posted on: 01/06/2020 08:17 PM
Tic-Toc was Intel's lazy production schedule when it believed itself secure from competition. It's strictly a monopolist's schedule, imo. I doubt AMD will "tic-toc" as for them it will be balls-to-the-walls, pedal-to-the-metal with each new CPU release. IE, actual architecture improvements and changes are what we will see from AMD from now--if what they've been saying is true, and I see no reason as of now to doubt it.


Agree. AMD is doing a tic and toc each generation ie architecture and process improvements/die shrinks. They need to keep that up though and I have no doubt that is exactly what they plan. Lisa Su has been unrelenting and I don't see that slowing down any time soon.

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#5748281 Posted on: 01/06/2020 08:26 PM
They are not doing a tick tock model.

IC: Recently an interview with an AMD executive related the current roadmap as a sort of tick-tock model, based on what Intel used to run for a decade. Do you have parity with this analysis?


MP: I didn’t see the particular interview you’re referring to, but what I will say is that we’re not on a tick-tock model. What we’re doing is looking at each generation of CPU and marrying the best process variant that’s out there with the right set of IPC improvements, memory hierarchy, and all the things that we can put in there. We are committed to staying on the best possible pace of improvements each generation that we can. This is a formula that’s working well for us at AMD.


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