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Vietnamese store put up preorder for ASUS ROG STRIX 1180
A Vietnamese store has placed a preorder for the ASUS ROG STRIX 1180 online. Interesting as Reddit user samcuu who posted this claims this is a reputable store, he does not see a reason for them to be fooling around.
So basically the shop claims the card will be in stock on September 28th and would be a 12nm based Pascal respin with faster graphics memory(GDDR6) tagged as Turing (GT104). Notice that the 3584 CUDA cores listed are a similar amount to the 1080 Ti, and that thus hints at a Pascal respin at 12nm.
- GPU: GT104
- 3584 CUDA cores
- Memory type: GDDR6 Micron - new architecture
- Size: 16GB
- Memory BUS: 256-bit
- Memory Speed: 14.0 Gbps
The preorder price is listed at only ~$1530 (I know). The photos that have been posted along with the listing DEFINITELY are photoshopped. Make if this what you will. Have a peek, and I'll just leave this for what it is, likely clickbait, albeit the specs really wouldn't surprise me to be real as it is confirming what we've been saying all along. A Pascal refresh called Turing with GDDR6. And yes, interesting is a mention of a release date, September 28th. The VN page has been taken offline but was listed here.
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#5561950 Posted on: 07/02/2018 02:50 PM
Personally, I will be disappointed if after all this time it will be a simple Refresh with GDDR6 and process shrink. Especially with a price tag such as this, what sane person will go for this instead of 1080Ti? Exactly, nobody.
As Hilber said, a most likely a clickbait.
You're underestimating fanboys.
And, if it's decently faster than 1080Ti, it is a reason for people with deep pockets to upgrade.
12nm+GDDR6 should give a nice boost to justify the upgrade, but the price...it's Ngreedia after all!
No freekin' way this is the same Pascal with the same number of shaders, two years later.
NVidia would shoot itself in the foot if they released something like this. GDDR6 doesn't add much or any benefit over GDDR5x which current High-end Pascal uses, it's just a bit lower power and probably lower RAM chip costs as well.
Oh but it is! Take the blindfold off and you'll see it makes sense. GDDR6 uses less power and 12nm will help the GPU be more efficient so they can extract more clocks and resulting in more performance.
If it didn't justify they wouldn't do it. AMD has nothing to touch 1080Ti territory, the green team has no reasons not to use old tech.
Personally, I will be disappointed if after all this time it will be a simple Refresh with GDDR6 and process shrink. Especially with a price tag such as this, what sane person will go for this instead of 1080Ti? Exactly, nobody.
As Hilber said, a most likely a clickbait.
You're underestimating fanboys.
And, if it's decently faster than 1080Ti, it is a reason for people with deep pockets to upgrade.
12nm+GDDR6 should give a nice boost to justify the upgrade, but the price...it's Ngreedia after all!
No freekin' way this is the same Pascal with the same number of shaders, two years later.
NVidia would shoot itself in the foot if they released something like this. GDDR6 doesn't add much or any benefit over GDDR5x which current High-end Pascal uses, it's just a bit lower power and probably lower RAM chip costs as well.
Oh but it is! Take the blindfold off and you'll see it makes sense. GDDR6 uses less power and 12nm will help the GPU be more efficient so they can extract more clocks and resulting in more performance.
If it didn't justify they wouldn't do it. AMD has nothing to touch 1080Ti territory, the green team has no reasons not to use old tech.
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#5561954 Posted on: 07/02/2018 02:59 PM
1500$ sounds really expensive. I always try to spend less than 500€.
Last year I got a used GTX1080 for 430€ and a Gsync 4k refurbished monitor from Amazon warehouse (287€)...Acer XB280HK
(before this gpu I had a 970 that I got new for 330€).
But now I'm considering some 55" 4k TV HDR. I could get some LG from 400-600€ (for Movies, Series and Joystick games, like Darksouls etc).
That said, I'm just waiting for AMD to drop some "FreeSync 2 HDR" TV (the current 2018 Sony are out of my budget), and based on the price, get a TV with that, and In the future I think I'm going to get an AMD card, I don't mind if it's 10-20% slower than Nvidia. Just want something within my budget.
Gsync is death to me, because I don't want to raise my budget. I can't imagine how much a Gsync TV will cost. Damn, even the current 4K 120 fps monitors are expensive and I totally don't recommend a 27" 4k monitor for gaming. 28" 4K (like the one I have) is just good for reading/working. For 4K gaming i recommend 32" or more.
TLDR:
I'm aiming to get in the future:
- 32" 4k monitor with freesync more than 100Hz (to play first person shooters).
- 55" 4k TV with freesync and 60Hz (to play anything without mouse).
- and some freesync card that can handle shooters at 90 fps~ without max details. If this will cost too much money, maybe just something to handle 4k60 fps with good settings and 4k90 fps shooters with min settings.
1500$ sounds really expensive. I always try to spend less than 500€.
Last year I got a used GTX1080 for 430€ and a Gsync 4k refurbished monitor from Amazon warehouse (287€)...Acer XB280HK
(before this gpu I had a 970 that I got new for 330€).
But now I'm considering some 55" 4k TV HDR. I could get some LG from 400-600€ (for Movies, Series and Joystick games, like Darksouls etc).
That said, I'm just waiting for AMD to drop some "FreeSync 2 HDR" TV (the current 2018 Sony are out of my budget), and based on the price, get a TV with that, and In the future I think I'm going to get an AMD card, I don't mind if it's 10-20% slower than Nvidia. Just want something within my budget.
Gsync is death to me, because I don't want to raise my budget. I can't imagine how much a Gsync TV will cost. Damn, even the current 4K 120 fps monitors are expensive and I totally don't recommend a 27" 4k monitor for gaming. 28" 4K (like the one I have) is just good for reading/working. For 4K gaming i recommend 32" or more.
TLDR:
I'm aiming to get in the future:
- 32" 4k monitor with freesync more than 100Hz (to play first person shooters).
- 55" 4k TV with freesync and 60Hz (to play anything without mouse).
- and some freesync card that can handle shooters at 90 fps~ without max details. If this will cost too much money, maybe just something to handle 4k60 fps with good settings and 4k90 fps shooters with min settings.
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#5561958 Posted on: 07/02/2018 03:04 PM
I find it funny how people here are either like "this is no surprise" or "this can't be real". I'm personally in the former group.
People who would go for the 1180 are the same people who went for a Zen+. Some people liked what they saw before but haven't upgraded yet, and just prefer a little extra refinement.
If the 1180 is basically a 1080Ti with a die shrink and GDDR6, as long as it's priced well (so, maybe between $500-$600), I actually think this would be a pretty decent product, and makes the 1180Ti seem more promising. That being said, I wonder if the price in the article is just a Vietnam issue due to tariffs or taxes or whatever. Nvidia would never have an MSRP like that for this performance tier.
I don't disagree that it's a little disappointing that Nvidia is mostly just doing a refresh after all this time, and I also don't think the 1180 will be worth the upgrade for anyone with a 1070Ti or better, but much like the Zen+ lineup, I think there would be enough of a performance improvement where this would be appealing to some.
EDIT:
It is important to consider that it's not like Nvidia (or AMD for that matter) were just sitting there doing nothing for the past 2 years. On the Nvidia side, servers have been getting a lot of attention lately, and on AMD's side they've been focusing on next-gen consoles (and a little bit of attention for servers too). Even though gaming GPUs outsell non-gaming GPUs, there's a greater profit margin for the latter group.
I find it funny how people here are either like "this is no surprise" or "this can't be real". I'm personally in the former group.
Personally, I will be disappointed if after all this time it will be a simple Refresh with GDDR6 and process shrink. Especially with a price tag such as this, what sane person will go for this instead of 1080Ti? Exactly, nobody.
People who would go for the 1180 are the same people who went for a Zen+. Some people liked what they saw before but haven't upgraded yet, and just prefer a little extra refinement.
If the 1180 is basically a 1080Ti with a die shrink and GDDR6, as long as it's priced well (so, maybe between $500-$600), I actually think this would be a pretty decent product, and makes the 1180Ti seem more promising. That being said, I wonder if the price in the article is just a Vietnam issue due to tariffs or taxes or whatever. Nvidia would never have an MSRP like that for this performance tier.
I don't disagree that it's a little disappointing that Nvidia is mostly just doing a refresh after all this time, and I also don't think the 1180 will be worth the upgrade for anyone with a 1070Ti or better, but much like the Zen+ lineup, I think there would be enough of a performance improvement where this would be appealing to some.
EDIT:
It is important to consider that it's not like Nvidia (or AMD for that matter) were just sitting there doing nothing for the past 2 years. On the Nvidia side, servers have been getting a lot of attention lately, and on AMD's side they've been focusing on next-gen consoles (and a little bit of attention for servers too). Even though gaming GPUs outsell non-gaming GPUs, there's a greater profit margin for the latter group.
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#5561963 Posted on: 07/02/2018 03:17 PM
If a difference between 1080Ti and 1180 will be 10-15%, and will have a sensible price, I also will most likely sell my 1080Ti and go for newer one. However, if difference will be ~5%, then its literally pointless.
If a difference between 1080Ti and 1180 will be 10-15%, and will have a sensible price, I also will most likely sell my 1080Ti and go for newer one. However, if difference will be ~5%, then its literally pointless.
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I just wondered, how many of the proders will be serviced with a fake card and a "camouflaged" 750Ti?