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Ubisoft might block Far Cry 4 copies bought through third-party key sellers
We have no real source or validity to this rumor, but news is surfacing the web that Far Cry 4 copies that were bought through third-party resellers like G2Play and G2A will be killed. G2Play for example is huge and is a legit key reseller.
The rumor right now is that the keys have been stolen and maybe that's the reason why they're being blocked. G2Play and G2Aare popular digital retailers based in Hong Kong that scan and/or photograph the keys from retail boxes.
Website eTeknix reported this story; The games are a lot cheaper there and the internet allows them to sell those keys digitally worldwide where the games cost more.
“This is an outrageous and ridiculous way of doing business. And don’t you think as I do, that maybe those people who actually PAY for the game (even though Ubisoft will make a few bucks less in Poland because I bought the game from…I don’t know, a…hungarian original retailer), will, in time, in frustration, after that sort of strategy and behaviour, after the way you made people buy not-finished games, will stop buying them at all or keep using less scrupulous retailers to get what they want? And nobody wants that.”
– Voiced a user on the Ubisoft support forums The above statement doesn’t stand on its own, as the forum thread has 19 pages with over 180 posts at the time of writing, mostly with support for the OP.
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#5003082 Posted on: 01/29/2015 10:32 AM
I have some suggestions:
1. Don't buy bad games. There are some good games around, so if you have some free time, it's better to spend it with some quality games.
2. Avoid preorders. They drive the prices up, and you may get a lousy game (eg Alien: Colonial Marines). You're just shoving the money at the publisher, supporting the pricing and lack of quality assurance. There are some exceptions, when you're really appreciating the price and you're sure about the quality and you want to support the developer/publisher.
3. Stop buying expensive games. You may think that voting with wallet doesn't work with today's economy, but it does. There are some examples, like Poland. People over weren't buying expensive games and the piracy level was absurd. But now the piracy levels are low and games sell well. How did it happen? One of the publishers came up with an idea to try selling games for around 10€ and it was a huge success. Now, the PC games cost around 30€ on the release day (sometimes even around 20€), compared to the 60€ typical price tag commonly found in the rest of Europe. Console games cost more, but still, I can see a price drop.
4. If a game is really good and you're going to spend a lot of time with it, it may be worth paying some extra price, but only in such case. a good example that I can provide is Starcraft 1. Despite being really expensive for people in Poland at that time, and an easy way to get around protection + access to pirate servers, I know some players for whom it was the first legit game they bought.
5. If you can get the game at a better price, get it at better price as long as it's legit. What's the point of paying extra? For some reason, boxed copies over here are cheaper than on Steam/Origin/UPlay, despite extra manufacturing, distribution, and reseller fees. So why would I want to buy that game directly from the publisher if they want extra $$$?
This. I know alot of people dont want to believe it and alot of gamers lack self control over their wallets, the ol' "Dont tell me how to spend my money, I like getting ripped off and complaining about it later" mentality is borderline a mental illness these days.
The site G2A/Play is legit as it comes outside of buying direct or from brick and mortar (of which needs to die). The problem is that G2A thought that self moderation thirdparties that are in G2As partnership program would suffice in a greedy industry. Hopefully this time they'll learn and keep a closer eye on their partners and key sources or even increase the requirements/standards for selling via G2A.
Kinguin and that are fine, in fact, im willing to be that there would be even more pissed of gamers these days if we were all forced or stupid enough to pay the asking price of AAA (and non) titles either through pre-order or day1, direct from Ubi/steam/origin. I dont know about most on this forum, but 90% of games i have are only because of sites like G2A/play. I am not paying upwards of $40 for any game. Those days dies off with the ps2/OG xbox and PC gaming of that time.
There are PSone games that Id pay $200 buck for a proper remaster - Legend of Dragoon, Crash to the Team to the mother licker Racing comes to mind. ****, if i had the cash, Id personally fund the remasters of Final Fantasy 1-9. There is currently nothing imo, other than a few odd "remasters" that are worth the price of more than $40, hasnt been since before midway through the PS360 era.
Im going to leave now as well all know I dont know when to shut up.
I have some suggestions:
1. Don't buy bad games. There are some good games around, so if you have some free time, it's better to spend it with some quality games.
2. Avoid preorders. They drive the prices up, and you may get a lousy game (eg Alien: Colonial Marines). You're just shoving the money at the publisher, supporting the pricing and lack of quality assurance. There are some exceptions, when you're really appreciating the price and you're sure about the quality and you want to support the developer/publisher.
3. Stop buying expensive games. You may think that voting with wallet doesn't work with today's economy, but it does. There are some examples, like Poland. People over weren't buying expensive games and the piracy level was absurd. But now the piracy levels are low and games sell well. How did it happen? One of the publishers came up with an idea to try selling games for around 10€ and it was a huge success. Now, the PC games cost around 30€ on the release day (sometimes even around 20€), compared to the 60€ typical price tag commonly found in the rest of Europe. Console games cost more, but still, I can see a price drop.
4. If a game is really good and you're going to spend a lot of time with it, it may be worth paying some extra price, but only in such case. a good example that I can provide is Starcraft 1. Despite being really expensive for people in Poland at that time, and an easy way to get around protection + access to pirate servers, I know some players for whom it was the first legit game they bought.
5. If you can get the game at a better price, get it at better price as long as it's legit. What's the point of paying extra? For some reason, boxed copies over here are cheaper than on Steam/Origin/UPlay, despite extra manufacturing, distribution, and reseller fees. So why would I want to buy that game directly from the publisher if they want extra $$$?
This. I know alot of people dont want to believe it and alot of gamers lack self control over their wallets, the ol' "Dont tell me how to spend my money, I like getting ripped off and complaining about it later" mentality is borderline a mental illness these days.
The site G2A/Play is legit as it comes outside of buying direct or from brick and mortar (of which needs to die). The problem is that G2A thought that self moderation thirdparties that are in G2As partnership program would suffice in a greedy industry. Hopefully this time they'll learn and keep a closer eye on their partners and key sources or even increase the requirements/standards for selling via G2A.
Kinguin and that are fine, in fact, im willing to be that there would be even more pissed of gamers these days if we were all forced or stupid enough to pay the asking price of AAA (and non) titles either through pre-order or day1, direct from Ubi/steam/origin. I dont know about most on this forum, but 90% of games i have are only because of sites like G2A/play. I am not paying upwards of $40 for any game. Those days dies off with the ps2/OG xbox and PC gaming of that time.
There are PSone games that Id pay $200 buck for a proper remaster - Legend of Dragoon, Crash to the Team to the mother licker Racing comes to mind. ****, if i had the cash, Id personally fund the remasters of Final Fantasy 1-9. There is currently nothing imo, other than a few odd "remasters" that are worth the price of more than $40, hasnt been since before midway through the PS360 era.
Im going to leave now as well all know I dont know when to shut up.
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#5003092 Posted on: 01/29/2015 10:53 AM
I think alot is laziness and/or impatience.
Retail games for the most part are still available and easy to get, yet many order the digital one as that means they can pre load and play the second it's released.
As for remasters, I wouldn't pay more than £10 for any remastered game from the past.
I think alot is laziness and/or impatience.
Retail games for the most part are still available and easy to get, yet many order the digital one as that means they can pre load and play the second it's released.
As for remasters, I wouldn't pay more than £10 for any remastered game from the past.
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#5003142 Posted on: 01/29/2015 01:06 PM
Sometime people doing business take calculated risks, sometimes like in this case it hurts their own wallet while sometimes the outcome is good.
**** like this happens even with what people agree to call legal business.
Until FC4 I never had any issues with keys purchased trough their site, and G2A will refund as well btw.
Even then if a site is used by greedy rtard sellers, who thought that ridiculously low prices are absolutely legit, the site itself is not trustworthy for me. But respect to Kinguin for refunding.
Sometime people doing business take calculated risks, sometimes like in this case it hurts their own wallet while sometimes the outcome is good.
**** like this happens even with what people agree to call legal business.
Until FC4 I never had any issues with keys purchased trough their site, and G2A will refund as well btw.
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#5004952 Posted on: 01/31/2015 08:21 PM
Just got my money back from G2A and a 5 Euro discount on my next buy.
So it took only 4 days to get it sorted out.
Heck, there are real publishers out there who don't give a **** if they mess up, seen cases of some that don't even bother to refund, they just play the silent game.
And some of you people wonder why others buy from third party dealers...
Just got my money back from G2A and a 5 Euro discount on my next buy.
So it took only 4 days to get it sorted out.
Heck, there are real publishers out there who don't give a **** if they mess up, seen cases of some that don't even bother to refund, they just play the silent game.
And some of you people wonder why others buy from third party dealers...
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Even then if a site is used by greedy rtard sellers, who thought that ridiculously low prices are absolutely legit, the site itself is not trustworthy for me. But respect to Kinguin for refunding.