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Guru3D.com » News » Ubisoft might block Far Cry 4 copies bought through third-party key sellers

Ubisoft might block Far Cry 4 copies bought through third-party key sellers

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 01/27/2015 10:52 AM | source: | 79 comment(s)
Ubisoft might block Far Cry 4 copies bought through third-party key sellers

We have no real source or validity to this rumor, but news is surfacing the web that Far Cry 4 copies that were bought through third-party resellers like G2Play and G2A will be killed. G2Play for example is huge and is a legit key reseller.

The rumor right now is that the keys have been stolen and maybe that's the reason why they're being blocked. G2Play and G2Aare popular digital retailers based in Hong Kong that scan and/or photograph the keys from retail boxes.

Website eTeknix reported this story; The games are a lot cheaper there and the internet allows them to sell those keys digitally worldwide where the games cost more.

“This is an outrageous and ridiculous way of doing business. And don’t you think as I do, that maybe those people who actually PAY for the game (even though Ubisoft will make a few bucks less in Poland because I bought the game from…I don’t know, a…hungarian original retailer), will, in time, in frustration, after that sort of strategy and behaviour, after the way you made people buy not-finished games, will stop buying them at all or keep using less scrupulous retailers to get what they want? And nobody wants that.”

– Voiced a user on the Ubisoft support forums The above statement doesn’t stand on its own, as the forum thread has 19 pages with over 180 posts at the time of writing, mostly with support for the OP.







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Mineria
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#5002340 Posted on: 01/28/2015 04:38 PM
Well all of these particular keys were bought with stolen credit cards so Ubisoft have come out & said. So whoever had a key can probably expect a knock on the door ;) .


Bad joke, lol.

A number of keys were purchased from EA's Origin using falsified credit card information and resold. Using information provided by EA regarding the matter at hand, Ubisoft have revoked the keys that were bought fraudulently from Origin and then resold through vendors like Kinguin and G2A.

Unfortunately, when purchasing from unauthorised third-party retailers you can sometimes get burned, but if you contact the company you purchased the game from they should help you resolve the issue.


Source: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1001079-Far-Cry-4-deactivated?p=10548329&viewfull=1#post10548329

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#5002456 Posted on: 01/28/2015 06:36 PM
Excuse my ignorance but I see everyone talking about keys and not copies. If you buy only a key, where are you supposed to get the full game from?. Isn't this the root of the problem?

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#5002491 Posted on: 01/28/2015 07:23 PM
Excuse my ignorance but I see everyone talking about keys and not copies. If you buy only a key, where are you supposed to get the full game from?. Isn't this the root of the problem?


Steam/Origin/Uplay, activate the key and download from their servers.

This scam is not far off what ive heard happening here with someone buying something off a stranger in pub and being assured it wasn't stolen by the fact they get a receipt with it.

The poor person is ok, unless they try to say activate a warranty or even worse try to return it to the store the stolen card was used in.

This sounds like a digital version of this, i feel sorry for legit places but if they let third parties use their store then it's their problem.

Mineria
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#5002726 Posted on: 01/28/2015 10:53 PM
Somehow this looks more like Ubisoft is on a Witch-hunt....
Reason is the response I got from their support team.

They wrote that activation keys were recently purchased under shady circumstances, but nothing about that the keys I got where bought under the mentioned circumstances.

They also wrote that keys bought under these circumstances might have been deactivated, not that they have been deactivated, which leads me to believe that the staff responsible for examining the keys in question even might have banned completely legal keys, neither all the shady keys.

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#5002734 Posted on: 01/28/2015 11:05 PM
I thought EA had been selling Ubisoft games on Origin for a while now, i've even bought a few Steamworks games during a Origin sale.

Just noiticed this on the Kinguin site


"We would like to share some of our insights regarding the Ubisoft revoked keys in the last few days.
Firstly few stats:

More than 4600 customer tickets received in the last 72 hours
Games affected - so far: 1051x FarCry4, 450x Assassin’s Creed, 61x WatchDogs, 11x The Crew
We estimate total amount currently to be refunded to 148377 EUR
35 out of 3400 Kinguin Merchants affected by the case
All Merchants in cooperation with Kinguin have been and will continue to refund affected customers

Now what actually happened?

Briefly, in official information released by Ubisoft and Origin both sides claim that fraudulent credit cards were used to acquire Ubisoft keys through Origin platform. Neither we nor other companies in the market have possibility to verify these claims.

Here is what Merchants have been telling: An unidentified individual from Russia acquired these keys. How exactly - we do not know. Those keys have been offered to many merchants in the market. From what we know now price offered for these keys was so low that most merchants refused to buy the goods. 35, mostly minor, merchants from Kinguin accepted the offer. These merchants now claim that their “source” disappeared and that they were left hanging. All Merchants with no exception declared full will to cooperate and refund all affected customers. We as Kinguin would like to thank them for that.

How often does this happen?

This has happened several times in the past. However it is the first case on similar scale where thousands of customers are being affected. Put together with other platforms the number could be reaching tens of thousands.

How can this specific case be prevented in the future?

1) Major platforms to implement more advanced early warning mechanisms:

However it seems odd to us that with such big quantities involved “somebody” bought these via credit card or cards from Origin without any suspicion raised during the purchase process.

We at Kinguin do not claim ourselves technologically more advanced than Ubisoft or Origin however we do verify big or unusual purchases. We believe these platforms must have access to anti-fraud ecommerce tools that should raise alarm flags in such cases.

2) Merchants must pay bigger attention to who their business partners are and avoid risk transactions with new entities.

What does this tells us about the state of the market?

The “game keys” market has passed major milestones since its early starts back in 2007, when almost all codes were scratched from boxed products. There are several major platforms now with advanced ethics and business mechanisms. There is major increase in recognition of these brands and their services among large audiences - counted in millions for now. Since January 1st 2015 several organizations, including Kinguin, have become VAT compliant in the European Union.

There is still one major issue though. State of the market is still in collision with big publishers’ goals and strategies.

Why?

It is natural in every economy that companies aim for supremacy and try to achieve monopoly position. Big publishers try to focus all their video games sales in very limited number of channels. Ideally they would like to sell only through their own platforms.

Steam would want Steam keys to be sold only via Steam. Blizzard does not allow any sales besides Battle.net and physical boxes (even specific digital giftcards products back in the day with GAME in the UK has disappeared) and so on. If it happens that the games might appear on other official media outlets its always based on conditions set by the publishers which is mostly: the game cannot cost less than 60 EUR in your store.

There is a big issue in all if that: gamers still don’t accept it. And for good reasons.


http://www.kinguin.net/blog/kinguin-refunds-revoked-ubisoft-keys?king

The Crew wasn't exactly popular lol.
150,000EUR isn't ideal for a site like them, but at least people are getting refund.

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