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TSMC will no longer accept orders from Huawei Starting September
Starting September 14 TSMC will stop accepting orders from Chinese company Huawei, leaving it without a partner to manufacture its chips.
This is due to the United States sales restrictions prevent selling all products manufactured with US patents to Huawei. TSMC currently manufactures the full range of products for HiSilicon, Huawei's subsidiary dedicated to chip design. This includes the Kirin chips used in the company's smartphones, and the new Kunpeng SOCs for desktop computers, so Huawei will be in serious trouble losing TSMC. Reuters just confirmed this information as well.
The Chinese giant will have to find who makes these SOCs, since they are a key part of its business, and according to industry sources, it would already be talking to SMIC, a semiconductor manufacturing company that uses 100% Chinese technology. However, SMIC only makes chips at 14nm, so it's not enough for the brand's top-performing products, and they will have to continue the search. The problem is that almost all the other companies in the field use US technology, so they are not enabled to sell to Huawei, leaving it in Checkmate.
It will be interesting to see what solution Huawei finds to this problem, or if it ends up reaching an agreement with the United States to get out of this complex situation.
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#5810851 Posted on: 07/21/2020 02:58 AM
China already has a semiconductor manufacturing company. To know what is it, and why they can't use it, read the article.
China already has a semiconductor manufacturing company. To know what is it, and why they can't use it, read the article.
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#5810853 Posted on: 07/21/2020 03:44 AM
The US bizarre anti Hauwei policy will force China into developing its own chip manufacture, eventually endangering INTEL, AMD, Nvidia, they won't have any interest in complying with any patents.
China is already powerful enough with the technical competence to give the big finger to the US or anyone else.
It's really not a bizarre policy if you understand how things are done in a Communist country. The Chinese Gov't controls all businesses. Huawei can't refuse to build "security flaws" into their products that the Chinese Gov't can exploit. In the US, companies have a say. Won't be that way much longer, but that is the current state.... The US Gov't is slowly moving that same direction. As long as every country is intent on spying on every other country, things are going to get progressively worse, as they have been. The Chinese want to dominate every market and be the sole world super power. Same as every other country. They don't want a Global economy. They want a single Chinese economy. People in power, always want more power. They rarely concern themselves with the cost. The current US president is no different. He's been trying to push us towards a dictatorship for the last 42 months..... Hope for change in November, otherwise, things will probably get worse long before they get better.....
The US bizarre anti Hauwei policy will force China into developing its own chip manufacture, eventually endangering INTEL, AMD, Nvidia, they won't have any interest in complying with any patents.
China is already powerful enough with the technical competence to give the big finger to the US or anyone else.
It's really not a bizarre policy if you understand how things are done in a Communist country. The Chinese Gov't controls all businesses. Huawei can't refuse to build "security flaws" into their products that the Chinese Gov't can exploit. In the US, companies have a say. Won't be that way much longer, but that is the current state.... The US Gov't is slowly moving that same direction. As long as every country is intent on spying on every other country, things are going to get progressively worse, as they have been. The Chinese want to dominate every market and be the sole world super power. Same as every other country. They don't want a Global economy. They want a single Chinese economy. People in power, always want more power. They rarely concern themselves with the cost. The current US president is no different. He's been trying to push us towards a dictatorship for the last 42 months..... Hope for change in November, otherwise, things will probably get worse long before they get better.....
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#5810857 Posted on: 07/21/2020 03:56 AM
Not just them - Germany is one of Russia's largest buyers of crude oil. Just adding to your statement not disagreeing or taking away from it.
The Huawei issue stems from an old political agenda long talked about in the DOD and DOJ; this pre dates Trump & had been talked about pursuing in years prior but the decision was made not to. When Trump became elected due to the appeal of this among his base, the decision to pursue Huawei & use/expound on existing intelligence was chosen.
We won't see the these imports & trade agreements replaced with mainland-based American manufacturing & jobs. There isn't & never was a plan for that. Only an aggressive prosecutorial roadmap for Huawei & the in turn Chinese government. Huawei's CFO was arrested by Canadian authorities at the behest of US federal officers in December of 2018.
On the 1st of December, one year into the US-China trade war - The White House stated both parties would "immediately begin negotiations on structural changes with respect to forced technology transfer, intellectual property protection, non-tariff barriers, cyber intrusions and cyber theft." continued - "If at the end of 90 days, the parties were unable to reach an agreement, the 10 percent tariffs would be raised to 25 percent."
However during "negotiations" The White House requested Canada pursue the arrest of Huawei's CFO - China's most prominent technology manufacturer with a well-documented close connection to the Chinese state. It's often speculated they are a front for the Chinese government themselves (this is objective - I could care less if they are or are not). These are simply points of our public record.
Many of you are raising debate - according to data we have; the White House has continuously exacerbated the current geopolitical climate and continued to make matters difficult. This is apart from Huawei having a history of data collection on their Telecommunications equipment. Let's circle back. The Snowden leaks while confidential information became public record during the creation of the USA Freedom ACT of 2015 (spawned by the ACLU suing the US gov).
Court documents show the US department of state, CIA and NSA were conducting a mass surveillance operation on but not limited to the following countries: China, Russia, USA, United Kingdom, Canada, Mexico, Australia. So, including ourselves & some allies too without individual warrants - the reasoning was FISA warrants used as "blankets" for "multiple points" of mass surveillance. Our Federal courts saw otherwise. Violating established privacy data-sets on a scale considered weapons-grade according to the EU and now GDRP (which didn't exist at the time). PHI, PII, & including but was not limited to data mining of bank statements, passport records, location information, cell records(sms/audio), credit reports, social networking accounts, and more. Point a finger at someone else - there are five pointing back at you
they have gained access to resources of Russia.
Not just them - Germany is one of Russia's largest buyers of crude oil. Just adding to your statement not disagreeing or taking away from it.
The Huawei issue stems from an old political agenda long talked about in the DOD and DOJ; this pre dates Trump & had been talked about pursuing in years prior but the decision was made not to. When Trump became elected due to the appeal of this among his base, the decision to pursue Huawei & use/expound on existing intelligence was chosen.
We won't see the these imports & trade agreements replaced with mainland-based American manufacturing & jobs. There isn't & never was a plan for that. Only an aggressive prosecutorial roadmap for Huawei & the in turn Chinese government. Huawei's CFO was arrested by Canadian authorities at the behest of US federal officers in December of 2018.
On the 1st of December, one year into the US-China trade war - The White House stated both parties would "immediately begin negotiations on structural changes with respect to forced technology transfer, intellectual property protection, non-tariff barriers, cyber intrusions and cyber theft." continued - "If at the end of 90 days, the parties were unable to reach an agreement, the 10 percent tariffs would be raised to 25 percent."
However during "negotiations" The White House requested Canada pursue the arrest of Huawei's CFO - China's most prominent technology manufacturer with a well-documented close connection to the Chinese state. It's often speculated they are a front for the Chinese government themselves (this is objective - I could care less if they are or are not). These are simply points of our public record.
Many of you are raising debate - according to data we have; the White House has continuously exacerbated the current geopolitical climate and continued to make matters difficult. This is apart from Huawei having a history of data collection on their Telecommunications equipment. Let's circle back. The Snowden leaks while confidential information became public record during the creation of the USA Freedom ACT of 2015 (spawned by the ACLU suing the US gov).
Court documents show the US department of state, CIA and NSA were conducting a mass surveillance operation on but not limited to the following countries: China, Russia, USA, United Kingdom, Canada, Mexico, Australia. So, including ourselves & some allies too without individual warrants - the reasoning was FISA warrants used as "blankets" for "multiple points" of mass surveillance. Our Federal courts saw otherwise. Violating established privacy data-sets on a scale considered weapons-grade according to the EU and now GDRP (which didn't exist at the time). PHI, PII, & including but was not limited to data mining of bank statements, passport records, location information, cell records(sms/audio), credit reports, social networking accounts, and more. Point a finger at someone else - there are five pointing back at you
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#5810862 Posted on: 07/21/2020 05:09 AM
Yes the U.S gov't aren't angels by any means. They've committed many crimes and injustices themselves, but they're not unrepentantly wicked like the CCP is.
In today's times, information is power. All nations spy and collect information on not only other nations, but even their own citizens. The question however, is what do they do with that information and power? The CCP by all account actively attempts to steal IP from other countries in order to advance China, manipulate their currency to give them the advantage on exporting their products, foster unfair trade deals and they have what is inarguably the greatest mass surveillance system in the entire World to suppress the freedoms and liberties of their own citizens.
As powerful as America is, it hasn't abused its power in the way that China has, and continues to do.
Court documents show the US department of state, CIA and NSA were conducting a mass surveillance operation on but not limited to the following countries: China, Russia, USA, United Kingdom, Canada, Mexico, Australia. So including ourselves & some allies too without individual warrants - the excuse was FISA warrants used as "blankets" for multiple points of mass surveillance. Our Federal courts saw otherwise history showed. Violating established privacy data-sets on a scale considered weapons-grade according to the EU and now GDRP (which didn't exist at the time). PHI, PII, & including but was not limited to data mining of bank statements, passport records, location information, cell records(sms/audio), credit reports, social networking accounts, and more. Point a finger at someone else - there are five pointing back at you
Yes the U.S gov't aren't angels by any means. They've committed many crimes and injustices themselves, but they're not unrepentantly wicked like the CCP is.
In today's times, information is power. All nations spy and collect information on not only other nations, but even their own citizens. The question however, is what do they do with that information and power? The CCP by all account actively attempts to steal IP from other countries in order to advance China, manipulate their currency to give them the advantage on exporting their products, foster unfair trade deals and they have what is inarguably the greatest mass surveillance system in the entire World to suppress the freedoms and liberties of their own citizens.
As powerful as America is, it hasn't abused its power in the way that China has, and continues to do.
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The US bizarre anti Hauwei policy will force China into developing its own chip manufacture, eventually endangering INTEL, AMD, Nvidia, they won't have any interest in complying with any patents.
China is already powerful enough with the technical competence to give the big finger to the US or anyone else.